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    I know it's been awhile, so I started a new thread since this will deal more with the training and daily life at the camp, with less information regarding Thailand in general.

    First off, I am in Chiang Mai, which is the second largest city in Thailand. I love the city, since it has everything I need, but nowhere near the hecticity of Bangkok.

    I am training at Lanna Boxing (Giat Busaba). The camp is located on Chan Kian off of Huay Kaew road, norh west of the old city. I have a room, with bathroom and hot water which costs 2500 Baht, or roughly 100$ CAD a month. It is a 5-10 minute walk/hobble to the camp.

    My day starts at 5:50am. I barely have time to blink the previous nights sleep out of my eyes before I blearily make for the camp. At this time of the day, I have beaten the sun to the rise, and it is dark and quite chilly. A few stray dogs eye me suspiciously as I make my way to the camp.

    I arrive at the camp for 6:20am, having spent half an hour preparing for the session and walking. My wraps are rolled, my bottle filled with water, and my trainers on.

    We begin by some light stretching, as our muscles are still cold and stiff from the previous days workout. We limber up as best we can. Ahead of us is a run that varies between 6 and 12 kms. The 6 km run is broken down into sprints, and the 12 Km involves a beautiful mountain. Everyone is wearing shirts, because to run without one (as one might be tempted to do in the extreme afternoon heat) would offend the locals. We head off in groups to begin our day.

    Upon return, the timer is set for 5 minute rounds of skipping. 5 rounds are completed, and it is time for some serious stretching. A spot is taken in one of the two rings (male/multipurpose) or a mat, and the smell of linement begins to mingle with the odour of last nights shrub burning.

    Next up are knees or teeps, depending on the day. 100-300 are done, with pushups in between. After the isolated drill, a light shadow boxing for 4-8 rounds, mixing up a variety of techniques in front of the mirroir, or around the camp in general.

    After the shadow boxing, round after round is done on the bags. The first whack on the bag is the wakeup for the shins, bruised and battered from previous clashes. After a few rounds, they are blissfully numbed, and the intensity is increased.

    With a full body sweat now running, it's time to grab a trainer and enter the ring. In the words of the PGA, "These guys are good". It is an interesting experience, and one that is quite rare in North America, to have a man stand in front of you with well over 200 fights. On this particular day, the man's name is Nook, a former Northern Champion who used to sell out Lumphini in his day. This man loves his job and it is apparent. The smile never leaves his face, and he doesn't speak english so well, but his body language is unmistakeable. In short, he is a great communicater with pads on. I have yet to survive more than 2 "four" minute rounds with him, as the last one does not end. He will hold the pads for knee after knee, kick after kick until you beg for leave. Sabai, sabai he laughs.

    After a quick prayer for death, the adrenaline drops a little, and it is time for some light sparring. Everyone shows good control, and much is learned because of it. It is much easier to remained composed after the previous 2 hours of work. When one has had their fill, if there is anything left in the tank, they work some grappling until exhaustion. People slowly begin to twindle, and it is 10am, and time for breakfast. People look relieved and vitalized at the same time, and in the back of everyones mind is the repetition of the process in no less than 6 hours. The afternoon session begins at 4pm.

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    Hey Octavious,

    So you're at Lanna then? Nice one. Sounds like you're enjoying it. One thing I have to disagree with you though is that the mountain run isn't quite 12 km. More like 6.6. I know this because I got Andy (owner of the camp) to measure it in his jeep one time after I set the mountain run record back in 2001

    But yeah, with the never ending incline it sure feels like 12k.

    Although it was a couple of years ago now you may well still recognise several faces from the photos and pics I got whilst over at Lanna.

    Check them out at http://www.theapproachingstorm.com/thailand/index.html

    Peace

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    • #3
      The dedication is wonderful, and I'm sure that the results produced are excellent. But I worry about the long term effects of training to this extent on the bod, as well as the detrimental effect on other areas of life.

      You must make your own choices, and I hope you are really happy, but such dedication may be harmful in the longer term. Just my two pence.

      Enjoy!

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      • #4
        ?

        Hmm, Bri Thai I think that your post got crossed over threads as it doesn't seem to be all the relevant to this.

        Still, your advice was taken aboard and will be considered in future

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        • #5
          Sanook-mai Octavious?

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          • #6
            Hey Dave,

            You're right, from base to top is around 6 and a half km, admittedly I have yet to conquer the entire mountain. By the way, great site regarding Lanna. Many people talk about it here, and cite it as inspiration for coming.

            Tonight, there are fights in Hang Dong, with JR (from the Dream Chasers special) fighting for a championship belt. There is quite a buzz in the camp. Also, if I'm not mistaken, Kem will be fighting in Lumphini next month in a rather important bout.

            The training is going well, and the rust of a years inactivity is being shaken away. With the exception of a sore foot and knee (both from hitting elbows) the body is holding up. Tomorrow is a day of rest, which I am looking quite forward to.

            Chalambok, sanook dii mahk! Phom rean phasah thai, phoot nit noi.

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            • #7
              have you seen people barfing at the camp yet ? Man... I wish I was able to train at Lanna Boxing camp, would be something too good for me..

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              • #8
                Yo kh_s, if you want to do it then why not go for it?

                I organised it all independently and just went for it. And its by far the best thing I have done ever.

                Of course if you have a job, family etc then I can understand. But otherwise there really is NO excuse

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                • #9
                  Better late than never...

                  It's been awhile since my last update, but I find myself with a little bit of time to sit and reflect. I've been in Thailand for nearly 3 months to the day now, and so much has happened, that it's really a blur.

                  The first month was filled with National Parks and island hopping. It was touristy and expensive, but an experience none the less. I capped it off with a wonderful trip to Siam Reap, Cambodia to see one of the contemporary seven wonders of the world in Angkor Wat. Spectacular.

                  There was also the Krabi Krabong in Bangkok with Col. Nattapong which was a real eye opener to the intensity and sheer fun of KK, and certainly more than enough inspiration for me to dedicate some of my time on a weekly basis towards it here in Chiang Mai.

                  My GF and I are slowly accepting the fact that we really should start working here, and continue teaching english. We're still a little shell shocked from the previous year and Korea, and aren't exactly eager to run back headlong into screaming kids. However, the extra pocket cash would be nice.

                  As far as training goes, it's 6 days a week, twice a day, 3 hours a session. Natasha and I have missed very few sessions with our communal goal being to fight in May. A fight was recently proposed to me for April 11th, howver I don't feel confident in my abilities right now to whip up into fighting shape in a mere 2 weeks. I did not train a single iota last year, and it has been a real hard going getting back into shape. The real difficult part was taking it easy, and not trying to do the things I was doing before I left for Korea.

                  When you take a fight, there has to be absolutely no question in your mind that you are ready, willing and able, and I'm just not there yet. Although as I said, things are coming around. I ran 15km's one day last week for the first time in my life, and sparred in the afternoon session afterwards, and had energy left after that. It was one of the best feelings of my life. I am even starting to get my rythm back. I am also working on getting over this intimidation factor. Back home in Canada, we don't allow elbows or knees to the head. Here I have been in attendance of close to 200 fights, and have seen some brutal and nasty knockouts... the kind that show up in your dreams that night. To get over this, I'm trying to do some light sparring with some of the trainers. It is such a weird feeling to have a current Northern Champion standing in front of you, and just nonchalantly picking you apart. When it all comes down to it, these KO's are just part of the game, and something you have to live with as a possibility. My goal is just to lessen the chances of them happening to me as much as possible!

                  Fighting as a foreigner is hard here for a few reasons. One, if you haven't had many fights, it really doesn't matter in the selection of your opponent. A guy with 50 fights under his belt and a guy with 2 fights under his belt are going to draw the same opponent, simply because there are so few thai fighters who are matching in weight. I will fight at around 65 kilos, which is very heavy for thais, and there aren't that many around.

                  Second, it would seem as though the thais don't like to lose to foreigners, and go out of their way to knock us out. A foreigner fighting here has to work hard to earn respect. There are a handful of fighters (foreigners) here in Chiang Mai that are known by the locals, and have respect. An example is as follows: Thai fighters fight for a living, this is there income and means of support. In order to make some cash, develop a decent record, they fight as frequently as possible. Amongst Thais, there is a mutual agreement not to intentionally damage the opponent beyond what is necessary to win the fight. For this reason, we see fewer leg kicks and elbows. The reason being damaged shins, leg muscles and cuts take time to heal. When this time is taken to heal, no money is being made...

                  This isn't however the case, when the guy across the ring is a foreigner. It's open season. Since the release of Ong-Bak, I have seen some crazy crap. Spinning elbows, jumping elbows, jumping spinning elbows, tomahok chops, you name it. No Thai wants to lose to a foreigner, and not only that, they want to look good while winning, so... you have to work extra hard to get by in a fight here, and keep your nose where it should be!

                  More to come...

                  David

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                  • #10
                    ttt

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                    • #11
                      Aseepish, do you mean Karl or Groucho?

                      Octavious, have you checked out my friend's krabi-krabong academy yet?

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                      • #12
                        Dave Tew, I`m only 14 years of age man! But really, is it okay to barf in your first Muay Thai Class, or an ordinary Boxing class?

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                        • #13
                          kh_s, that is a very strange question and your interest in seeing people throw up is worrying.

                          However, as you asked, no I didn't see anyone throw up at the camp. I did a few times (actually about 20 times in one night) after getting a bug but never because of training. Oh wait, that same bug ****ed up one of my mountain runs one time and I was sick then.

                          Apart from that, no

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                          • #14
                            Groucho - Karl was about as funny as, well, Zeppo.

                            "Outside of a dog, a book is man`s best friend. Inside a dog it`s too dark to read." Das Kapital, p. 437.

                            Octavious - I had many Thai students when I was teaching in Singapore and they were by far the most fun to teach. They tend not to shoot their teachers in the eye like the Korean kids I`ve heard about (horror story from my buddy who`s teaching in Seoul - an 8 year old kid brought a pellet gun to class and shot one of my friend`s colleagues, who was saved by his thick glasses). Thais are much more, uh, sanook!

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                            • #15
                              The Kids...

                              Yes, those Korean kids can be quite hectic at times. I am procrastinating teaching here as much as possible. We do have a few kids that kick around (pun intended) and they are much more, oh what's the word... personable? They don't have that initial 5 minutes of staring that each of my Korean kids went through. We'll see if I get around to teaching soon. My plate is just so full now...

                              On the topic of vomitting. No... just no.

                              Chalambok, I'll be getting in touch with Pedro soon hopefully. Like I said, things are tough now. I'm looking at May for a fight, and it's taking up alot of my time. But I'm still keen!

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