I wish I was able to train in Bando, heh

[kh_s]

Would be an honorable gift if you ask me! Since its so rare here in north america. I heard you had to be really strong to train though

[yungsmoke]

i dont know what the hell bando is can you give me a site that show me?

[kh_s]

http://www.thaing.net

Click on Bando

[Lost Ronin]

KH S my friend, you are all over the net looking for info aren't you? Bando is an awesome style, it is very rare in north america. I have seen little tid bits of it, mainly due to the fact that lots of JKD concepts people like to delve into styles like Bando and Pentjak Silat. The animal forms are so cool, unlike Kung Fu, they focus on some really brutal attacks ( Tiger Style Bando is relentless.) The leading authority in the U.S is Dr. Maung gi ( I think that's how you spell it.) They also have Burmese Boxing, which is a "sub style" of sorts, it's got many moves that Muay Thai use to have back in the old days, you can get some videos on this stuff. Oh yeah, not all Bando styles are for strong people, cobra style is very scientific and made for the smaller, more accurate people. Hope this helps.

[kh_s]

Internet is one of my best friends RoFl

But really, did the Thai's defended themselves successfully against the Burmese ? Someone said that they were pitted by the Burmese, but then again there is that Legendary Thai boxer (forget his name) who defeated 12 of the finest Burmese boxers for his freedom.

[seeker]

It would be cool to train both. I think the Lee-method of trsining everything to get better has a lot of good features.

[Lost Ronin]

Originally posted by seeker
It would be cool to train both. I think the Lee-method of trsining everything to get better has a lot of good features.

Amen to that man, that's the mentality you gotta have, pretty much any style can be used on the street if you train it effectively. By effectively I mean you have to do conditioning, impact training ( Bag work, pads, etc.), you also have to spar often, which is where most martial arts don't deliver. But I've seen some Bando demos and I can tell ya, it's got everything, strikes, pressure points, even some grappling, I'd be awesome to train in it .

[nine]

Bando in the Bay Area

Too bad you're up in Canada. There's a gym that trains Bando out here: MTAI - San Jose, CA.

[jules]

But really, did the Thai's defended themselves successfully against the Burmese ?

Because Bondo is what MT used to be. And ring MT is different than the MT the Thai police/army uses,

[zghfd]

The thai's and myanmar ppl have a very long history. Sometimes they won and sometimes they lost. Its also worth noting that myanmar was not always considered the same country, i think when britain took over and called it burma is when they first become one. Another MA that would be awsome to study would be Krabbi Krabong.

[Marcelo]

I read something about burmese boxing or lethwei as it is called and noticed that it's very similar to the old muay thai. Does anybody nows the origin of this art? It all used to be one single martila art in the old days? Which one came first?

Is it trained in any place beyond myammar?

[swagman]

I was privileged

To train a couple of years ago, with a guy who taught me some Bando. and Although I didnt do it for long enough to consider myself expert in any way, I did learn a lot from it.

The differences I could see between Bando and MT were actually very subtle, like using a single arm in a chopping motion onto the kneecap for a knee block in the clinch, instead of the double arm block used in MT.
The other main difference is that here Bando is fought in the ring without gloves, so protecting the hands in punching moves is more critical, and clinching becomes more effective when you dont have gloves on, and there tends to be a great reliance on elbows, knees etc. (sounds much the same as MT doesnt it?)

Like I say the differences were subtle

[S.Anucha]

Would be an honorable gift if you ask me! Since its so rare here in north america. I heard you had to be really strong to train though

Dude, go here http://www.muaythai.com now the techniques found there are not forgotten and far from rare and in fact they are quite commonly taught in "genuine" Muay Thai schools, these are not EVERY technique. Also check here http://www.usmta.com/Krabi-Krabong-2.htm and also here http://www.pahuyuth.de/indexe.htm <---this site has some inaccuracies.

Lethwei (Burmese Boxing) is very similar to Muay Boran (Thai Boxing) so much so there is not much of a difference. How do I know this, well I lived in the North of Thailand where Boran is primarily taught. Bando is the group of Burmese arts just like Pahuyuth is the group of Thai arts.

The fights differ because Lethwei still allows headbutts and groin shots, fighting without gloves and the fights last longer. But the Mynmar governemnt hold "pro fights" in similar fashion as Muay Thai in Thailand.

The difference between Muay Thai ring sport and Lethwei are slight. I am returning back to Northern Thailand in 2 weeks time to resume training and fighting, I train in Muay Boran but I fight with gloves no groin hits or headbutts, to be honest I prefer that, I dont want to walk around with no teeth and one testicle! do you? I have seen Burmese fight Thais in Chiang Mai, they have some kind of rememberance thing for Nai Khanomtom every year, The Burmese are tough but they are not as natural looking as the Thais, that isnt a biased comment it is what i see. Although I do respect lethwei I prefer Muay Boran, there is not much of a difference, the real difference lies in the animal forms, and the way the Burmese kick, they seem to kick upwards whereas the Thais seem to kick in a circular motion.

Mynmar has one thing I will learn, really I am dying to get into this shit, its called Naban. Also you have Muay Khmer, yes its from Cambodia. You have to remember, all the fighting styles in South East Asia are very similar to each other.

Muay Thai is only a fraction of the Thai martial art, Muay Boran is ancient boxing. Muay Thai was rearranged after 1930 because it was a dangerous sport to compete in. That was a good thing, why? well what would have happened if Lethwei rearranged iuts fighting rules as did the Thaiboxing? It would maybe be Lethwei being taught around the world instead of Muay Thai.

I didnt vote because I want to learn Naban. Plus I am learning to read and write Thai language and I love Thai fighting.

by the way kh_s, have you ever fought before?

[Tom Yum]

Bando

Saw the website; looks very interesting! So it has animal styles like Chinese gong fu, but they spar like muay thai?

Seems to me like people would prefer different styles of Bando according to their physique; big, powerfull people would prefer boar or bear bando while faster and smaller people would prefer snake or tiger? What if you're averaged sized - I guess you would have to know if your strongest attribute is strength or speed and go from their??

Thanks for the link!

[William Eriepa]

The other main difference is that here Bando is fought in the ring without gloves,

Are punches and palms allowed to the head?