over trainning?

[work765]

is it possible to overtrain? If i run ever other day in the morning(mon, wed, fri) and weight train inbetween(tue, thur, sat) those days in the morning, and also kickbox monday thru thursday in the evening; is it possible for me to be overtrainning??

[jcolvin]

depends on how much you are resting. Also, you need to look at what you are trying to accomplish and how intensly you are going at it.

[terry]

Insufficient data to form an opinion. You may be overtraining for your current level of fitness. But as your body adapts to higher workloads your ability to sustain higher training loads will increase.

You need to ask yourself the following question: Are you getting injured, burnt out or experiencing decreasing performance? If so, then you may be overtraining.

BTW, this workout program puts you in the category of recreational martial artist. Professionals would be expected to be doing at least twice the total work volume--if not more--than you are currently doing. I'm not trying to put you down, but I am trying to point out to you that the guys who are MT professionals have very high standards and daunting workout schedules. Basically, it's their job.

Terry

P.S.: Under-resting or under-eating or wrong-eating in my mind are different issues than overtraining. Important but different.

[work765]

Well i'm trying to do as much as possible with the time i have. I work a 8-5 job, and kickboxing is only on mon thru thursday in the evenings which is when i go. I know in Thailand they train twice a day, but in Holland do they do the same?? I was looking at some gym schedules at Mejiro Gym in Holland and i was only seeing one class per day. So considering i'm not pro yet j/k i was assuming that my trainning schedule was pretty intense.

[kh_s]

Wait a minute, would it eb like, overtraining if you started Muay THai training for the first time and you weren't fit yet ?? People say you are dead for the first few weeks till you get use to the pain

[work765]

i was thinking more along the lines of little nagging injuries or shin slpints (i have them) or not seeing your cardio vascular system improving. Kind of like lifting weights but instead of not seeing your muscles grow/shrink you wouldnt see your cardio improving..

[terry]

Originally posted by kh_s
Wait a minute, would it eb like, overtraining if you started Muay THai training for the first time and you weren't fit yet ?? People say you are dead for the first few weeks till you get use to the pain

Excellent question: I would say, no. What you are asking about is called adaptation to a new workout. For that you need to (in my loudest, sternest voice) SUCK IT UP AND KEEP GOING!

What I'm talking about in overtraining is more than muscle soreness. It is injuries that need some rest or routine change to keep from turning into a permanent injury that takes the athlete out of training. Think of a pulled hamstring that due to overtraining becomes a torn hamstring. That is something that must be avoided.

Fairtex's out of town program has two training sessions per day. Add to that a mid-day nap and two out-of-class cardio/roadwork sessions of 1 hour each and you almost wind up with what they have in Thailand. 'Cept for the diseased animals wandering around the camp, the foul bathrooms, the thick, humid, smoggy air and the wonderfully warm Thai people.

Terry

[Guest]

Personally I prefer quality over quanity.

[terry]

False dichotomy. If you're gonna go up againt the best you need BOTH.

[Guest]

I did say "personally".

I am an old man. I am not going up against the best......

But if I did, I'd cheat.

[retired]

I too always put quality before quantity esspecially for new starters, their always told that 1 good punch is better than 100 crap ones, you only get better by hitting harder, 10 good press-ups will better develop you than 50 crap ones.

i'm also getting older (like bri) & have to work around my injurys.

running:
20mins at a fast pace is enough & 1 good run on weekend

If your going to be training for 6-7 days a week you need to seriouslly think of making up a training planner set up over 1 month alternating between easy/heavy training & running/stretching, try to break up the heavy training so it's not all together.