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  • #16
    Defending by simply crossing your arms in front of you does nothing for you at all except delay the inevitable. You are eating knee strikes to your arms, and you have given complete control of the action to your opponent. Your opponent can twist and throw you around at will.

    There are numerous other defenses & escapes to use, any of which is, IMHO, better than simply crossing your arms in front of you. Underhooking grasp to the body, the knee escape, straightening your arms with your hands on his hips (he won't be able to thrust his hips forward to knee), 'crowbar' escapes, etc, etc...

    Khun Kao

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    • #17
      Some people use this block/jam to start a combo as an emergency incase the guys taken over & got through/on top, shortlly after these jams some leg grab/kicks or throws can be acheived although i know of someone who used these blocks right through a fight & was fine.

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      • #18
        I do agree that the crossed arm block works in a pinch, but in my opinion, it should immediately lead into some other defense or escape. If someone is able to get by simply by crossing their arms and defending, then I don't feel that the attacker is taking appropriate advantage of the situation.

        Khun Kao

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        • #19
          I understood those forearm blocks to actually be elbow strikes to the lower thigh. I've never been on the receiving end of one of those, but it gotta hurt.

          I've actually injured myself a couple of times by kneeing people. On each occasion I caught a bony part of them (one hip, and one head) with this lower thigh. I know it was down to poor technique, but god it hurt.... I could hardly walk for a couple of days each time.

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          • #20
            I have learned two different elbow defenses vs. knee strikes, but crossing the forearms over in front of you aren't the way about it. As I stated, the crossed arm position completely relenquishes control of your head/neck area to your opponent, and you can be tossed around at will. The elbow defenses require different arm positions as you are jockeying for regaining a control position.

            Khun Kao

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            • #21
              Khun Kao
              I'M NOT WORTHY
              I'M NOT WORTHY
              I'M NOT WORTHY
              Yet again your Impressive knowledge had me correcting myself again!!!!
              I took these pics while scanning through an old video & just grabbed anything involving knee's but didn't have time to check with my superior on pics, he said as you rightlly stated that this block would only be a last option as it should either be a strike or not used, instead the hand push or evasion used!!!!
              Middle picture jam is ok'ish but this was 1993

              as britney says:
              Oops i did it again!!!!!

              Or maybe
              Oops Sken did it again!!!!! (Bri will understand) LOL
              Last edited by retired; 04-23-2003, 12:08 PM.

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              • #22
                Bri-Thai
                I'M NOT WORTHY
                I'M NOT WORTHY
                I'M NOT WORTHY

                Yes your right about the strikes, i've been told enough when im holding the pads that you strike the guys inner thigh against his knee (while sidestepping) which means your also practicing your strikes.....Doh!!!

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                • #23
                  10 lead roundhouse kicks
                  20 clinching straight knees
                  10 rear roundhouse kicks

                  u sound like my trainer!!! i hate these w/ a passion however they are quite good for your conditioning.

                  i just want to comment on the photos posted. we have been told to never use our arms to block knees, you actually can get your arm broken potentially. although it's good to turn alot if you are turning it's difficult for someone to get you into a bad position like that.

                  the other across the body block is great! also if this description makes sense you can lock one leg inside your opponents and use your hand on their opposite hip to prevent striking.

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                  • #24
                    We used to do something called the 100 kick count. It went something like this:-

                    10 lead leg mid level RH
                    10 rear leg low level RH

                    swap stances and repeat

                    5 left knees
                    5 right knees



                    That makes 50, then do the whole thing again.

                    That isn't exactly right, but is near. All kicks had to be full power. If you were still standing at the end it merely meant that you hadn't been kicking hard enough.

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                    • #25
                      retired...

                      LOL! Its all good. I can tell you know what you're talking about when you post. hehe

                      litte bully...

                      Yeah, that another reason why I don't allow my guys to use that block. Even though I have not seen anyone get their arms broken in this manner, I can easily see HOW it could happen. Better safe than sorry!

                      Bri Thai...

                      *furiously writes notes* hehehe, my students are going to HATE that drill, too!

                      Khun Kao

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                      • #26
                        We sometimes do padwork in 3's so the pad man holds the pads up with 1 person either side.
                        They then throw turning kicks with 1 leg alternating between the 2 people kicking E.G. (man on left kicks then man on right) so man on left does 30 kicks with left leg & man on right does 30 kicks with right leg.
                        when done switch sides & repeat.
                        Then when done one of the people kicking takes his turn holding the pads until each 3 have had a go at holding pads.
                        Result: 80 kicks

                        Then repeat process with 15 double kicks.
                        Result: 60 combo's (120 kicks)

                        Then repeat process with 10 triple kicks.
                        Result: 40 combo's (120 kicks)

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                        • #27
                          Can anybody help me with this address in thailand as i'm tring to trace a camp where my instructor trained?

                          I hope my spelling good enough!!!

                          Sot Thanikul Sukumvit Soi 93

                          (it had something to do with a ganglord!!!!)

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