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I came across this on the internet the other day I thought I’d post it and let you guys see it.
I don’t know what to make of it. I guess I’m one of those damn elitists that I always flame on. But I truly thought (STILL DO) That MT was unbeatable as a stand up striking art. Of course this tournament was in china and the Chinese have very biased judges.
On the night of 23rd of September, at the foot of Bak Wan San (White Cloud Hill) where Master Wong Fei Hong was buried, wave upon wave of thunderous cheering had shaken the entire New Guangzhou Stadium in Canton. In a 7 match Sanda Vs Muaythai Pro Challenge there, the Chinese fighters have convincingly defeated the Thais with a glorious 5 : 2 victory. The action that have taken place on that fateful night way surpassed that of the previous Sep 8th Challenge. This time we saw the Muaythai champions using everything they could - punches, kicks, elbows (padded), knees & clinches, beating up many of the Chinese badly; yet in the end Sanda prevailed. Though there was bias & unfair judging from some of the Chinese judges, it could not take much away from the solid result that the Sanda fighters have achieved. If the victory of the previous challenge is shaky & not to be recognized by the world of MA, then the MA world will have no choice but to acknowledge this current victory after they see this hard fought battle. Muay Thai is no longer the ultimate ring sport.
The 1st bout is the 52kg category fight between Xu Ding & Rakseelah Chunpadoo, which started out badly for the Chinese. Xu could not get his throws which worked in previous fights to work against the Thai. In the 4th round Rakseelah landed a solid left knee kick in the right chest of Xu, completely knocking the spirit out of him. I think his ribs may have been fractured. The Chinese coach had to immediately throw in the towel, effecting an initial TKO for the Thai team.
The 2nd bout is the 56kg category fight between Zhao Bo & Sinlabathai Jorjeeying, by far the most unfair fight of the evening. Although the Thai could not knock down Zhao, he was obviously the superior fighter, sucessfully landed 2 elbow strikes on his opponent. By the end of the 5 rounds Sinlabathai had whacked Zhao so hard that his skin was splitted above the left eye-lid.. leaving him dazed & hardly able to stand properly. While Zhao did land many side kicks on his opponent they did not hurt the Thai at all. Yet some of those unethical Chinese judges still gave this match to Zhao, drawing fire from the Thai judges & officials later.
The 3rd bout is the 60kg category fight between Liu Zedong & Songkong Jeenukoon, who were quite equally matched. All it took for the Chinese to win was a few ineffective side kicks & throws. In a 50-50 fight like this it is inevitable the visitor will surely lose by points to the host. Nothing short of a knock down will suffice for a Thai win. At this point, some of the Thai spectators walked out of the stadium, feeling disgusted no doubt.
The 4th bout is another 60kg category female fight between Wang Zanli & Yorying Seewoopeun. Wang is a head taller than Yorying.. I wonder how they could be of equal weight. As expected the Thai lass is knocked & thrown about by Wang throughout the fight, letting her winning decisively for the Chinese team.
The 5th bout is the 65kg category fight between Yu Dawei & Tiapalee Pathawachai, a seasoned champion with a record of 80 wins out of 88 fights. Yu could not throw the Thai at all - he came well prepared. On the other hand he was hit so many times by Tiaplee's firece elbow/knee combos that the Chinese coach, fearing for Yu's safety, had to throw in the towel in the 4th round. Another TKO for the Thais, bring the result to 3 : 2.
The 6th bout is the 70kg category fight between Hu Tao & Chavalit Jorjeeying, perhaps the toughest fight that evening. In the first 4 rounds both fighters had won 2 each. Hu has strong techniques but he could not gain any upper hand from the Thai. It is until the final round that he went totally defensive, countering Chavalit's attacks with side kicks whenever he could. Of course, they could not hurt the Thai, but Hu had already gained a marginal win by points through his tactic. The Thai judges were also caught being bias in this bout, for they had given ridiculously high points to Chavalit when he was obviously on the defensive during 2 of the 5 rounds. So in the end this 50-50 fight had to be forfeited to the host, which sealed the visiting team's fate.
The 7th & final bout is the 75kg category fight between Liu Hailong, last year's King of Sanda & Lukpoei Grabangkoei, which was the climax of the whole Challenge. Indeed Liu showed mastery worthy of a King. Right in the beginning of the 1st round he landed a high round kick in Lukpoei's head, & without stopping he grabbed his 75kg opponent, lifted him high up & thrown him out of the ring into the concrete! Screams of pure exhilaration rang through the entire stadium. Following that, Liu landed another solid punch right in his opponent's face after feigning with a low kick, sending Lukpoei reeling. By the end of the 2nd round he was already bleeding all over his face. Yet the Thai insisted on continuing the fight. Muaythai's fighting spirit was truly admirable, & the spectators could not help but respect this fighter. Silence filled the stadium as everyone watched this engrossing battle of skill vs toughness. Liu agained lifted & threw the Thai out of the ring with a back body drop. That's not all; he later splitted open his face with a spining backfist. It is all the Thai can do to prevent himself from being knocked out. At the end of the bout an ambulance had to send Lukpoei immediately to the hospital to treat his incessant bleeding, a result of several solid blows to his face. When Liu made his hero's exit, the Chinese spectators, no longer able to control their jubilation, surrounded & lifted him high above their heads, roaring,"China Team, Victory!!" The Thai spectators (including a former Thai Premier who is there to support), however, are visibly shocked & left speechless in the aftermath of this great battle. The Thai coach was glum & refused to answer any questions when approached by eager reporters on his way back to the locker rooms. Several Bangkok TV stations also broadcasted this Challenge live in Thailand. I cannot begin to imagine the effect of this defeat on the millions of Muaythai fans back home.. afterall, everyone believed Muaythai to be invincible in the ring - until tonight.
I still luv' ya' MT!!!
I don’t know what to make of it. I guess I’m one of those damn elitists that I always flame on. But I truly thought (STILL DO) That MT was unbeatable as a stand up striking art. Of course this tournament was in china and the Chinese have very biased judges.
On the night of 23rd of September, at the foot of Bak Wan San (White Cloud Hill) where Master Wong Fei Hong was buried, wave upon wave of thunderous cheering had shaken the entire New Guangzhou Stadium in Canton. In a 7 match Sanda Vs Muaythai Pro Challenge there, the Chinese fighters have convincingly defeated the Thais with a glorious 5 : 2 victory. The action that have taken place on that fateful night way surpassed that of the previous Sep 8th Challenge. This time we saw the Muaythai champions using everything they could - punches, kicks, elbows (padded), knees & clinches, beating up many of the Chinese badly; yet in the end Sanda prevailed. Though there was bias & unfair judging from some of the Chinese judges, it could not take much away from the solid result that the Sanda fighters have achieved. If the victory of the previous challenge is shaky & not to be recognized by the world of MA, then the MA world will have no choice but to acknowledge this current victory after they see this hard fought battle. Muay Thai is no longer the ultimate ring sport.
The 1st bout is the 52kg category fight between Xu Ding & Rakseelah Chunpadoo, which started out badly for the Chinese. Xu could not get his throws which worked in previous fights to work against the Thai. In the 4th round Rakseelah landed a solid left knee kick in the right chest of Xu, completely knocking the spirit out of him. I think his ribs may have been fractured. The Chinese coach had to immediately throw in the towel, effecting an initial TKO for the Thai team.
The 2nd bout is the 56kg category fight between Zhao Bo & Sinlabathai Jorjeeying, by far the most unfair fight of the evening. Although the Thai could not knock down Zhao, he was obviously the superior fighter, sucessfully landed 2 elbow strikes on his opponent. By the end of the 5 rounds Sinlabathai had whacked Zhao so hard that his skin was splitted above the left eye-lid.. leaving him dazed & hardly able to stand properly. While Zhao did land many side kicks on his opponent they did not hurt the Thai at all. Yet some of those unethical Chinese judges still gave this match to Zhao, drawing fire from the Thai judges & officials later.
The 3rd bout is the 60kg category fight between Liu Zedong & Songkong Jeenukoon, who were quite equally matched. All it took for the Chinese to win was a few ineffective side kicks & throws. In a 50-50 fight like this it is inevitable the visitor will surely lose by points to the host. Nothing short of a knock down will suffice for a Thai win. At this point, some of the Thai spectators walked out of the stadium, feeling disgusted no doubt.
The 4th bout is another 60kg category female fight between Wang Zanli & Yorying Seewoopeun. Wang is a head taller than Yorying.. I wonder how they could be of equal weight. As expected the Thai lass is knocked & thrown about by Wang throughout the fight, letting her winning decisively for the Chinese team.
The 5th bout is the 65kg category fight between Yu Dawei & Tiapalee Pathawachai, a seasoned champion with a record of 80 wins out of 88 fights. Yu could not throw the Thai at all - he came well prepared. On the other hand he was hit so many times by Tiaplee's firece elbow/knee combos that the Chinese coach, fearing for Yu's safety, had to throw in the towel in the 4th round. Another TKO for the Thais, bring the result to 3 : 2.
The 6th bout is the 70kg category fight between Hu Tao & Chavalit Jorjeeying, perhaps the toughest fight that evening. In the first 4 rounds both fighters had won 2 each. Hu has strong techniques but he could not gain any upper hand from the Thai. It is until the final round that he went totally defensive, countering Chavalit's attacks with side kicks whenever he could. Of course, they could not hurt the Thai, but Hu had already gained a marginal win by points through his tactic. The Thai judges were also caught being bias in this bout, for they had given ridiculously high points to Chavalit when he was obviously on the defensive during 2 of the 5 rounds. So in the end this 50-50 fight had to be forfeited to the host, which sealed the visiting team's fate.
The 7th & final bout is the 75kg category fight between Liu Hailong, last year's King of Sanda & Lukpoei Grabangkoei, which was the climax of the whole Challenge. Indeed Liu showed mastery worthy of a King. Right in the beginning of the 1st round he landed a high round kick in Lukpoei's head, & without stopping he grabbed his 75kg opponent, lifted him high up & thrown him out of the ring into the concrete! Screams of pure exhilaration rang through the entire stadium. Following that, Liu landed another solid punch right in his opponent's face after feigning with a low kick, sending Lukpoei reeling. By the end of the 2nd round he was already bleeding all over his face. Yet the Thai insisted on continuing the fight. Muaythai's fighting spirit was truly admirable, & the spectators could not help but respect this fighter. Silence filled the stadium as everyone watched this engrossing battle of skill vs toughness. Liu agained lifted & threw the Thai out of the ring with a back body drop. That's not all; he later splitted open his face with a spining backfist. It is all the Thai can do to prevent himself from being knocked out. At the end of the bout an ambulance had to send Lukpoei immediately to the hospital to treat his incessant bleeding, a result of several solid blows to his face. When Liu made his hero's exit, the Chinese spectators, no longer able to control their jubilation, surrounded & lifted him high above their heads, roaring,"China Team, Victory!!" The Thai spectators (including a former Thai Premier who is there to support), however, are visibly shocked & left speechless in the aftermath of this great battle. The Thai coach was glum & refused to answer any questions when approached by eager reporters on his way back to the locker rooms. Several Bangkok TV stations also broadcasted this Challenge live in Thailand. I cannot begin to imagine the effect of this defeat on the millions of Muaythai fans back home.. afterall, everyone believed Muaythai to be invincible in the ring - until tonight.
I still luv' ya' MT!!!
this is so stupid.. "if someone is better than thai, that is beacause they have stolen things from thai, thai is the only waaaaaaaaay, if you don't think so, you are endulging in blasphemy.." <-- bri.. seriously, if you think that someone _have_ to steal techs from bbj to be good @ the ground, or from MT to be good standing up, I pity you, you must live in a very narrow world.. don't, again, take me wrong, i love both bjj and MT, but it isn't the only thing..
Aww~ Who cares, guys? I have seen Thai fighers beat the total crap out of Sando Fighters (and other stylists) for *MANY* times.
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