Hardening/abs

[seeker]

How many of you do Hardening exercises when training& what kind of exercises? In our gym we do some abdominal hardening so that we stand holding out hands in the ropes on a ring and let our pair hit us to the stomach for 1-2 minutes, then change.

[KZL]

At the peak of my training, I'd do about 500-600 sit-ups a day. And we'd bounce medacin balls off of our guts during the crunch, to harden the abs.

Also, kicking posts (4x4) wrapped in cord and hitting my shins with kali sticks to deaden the nerves.

And we do some drills for toughening up the inner thighs through impact (kicks)

those are some of the ones that I've done.

[retired]

KZL
"Also, kicking posts (4x4) wrapped in cord and hitting my shins with kali sticks to deaden the nerves".

You dont need to hit your shins with anything to toughen them you just need to train on the heavy thai pads with a good pad-man & a good leather bag.

Hitting them does not toughen them all your doing is deadening the nerves faster which will not help.

Some conditioning:

http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7313&perpage=15&highlight=stretching&pagenumber=2

[KZL]

Yeah, that's mostly what I do now, kicking some good thai heavy bags. The 4x4's were in our earlier days....

[Guest]

There is a danger in hitting yourself in the abs (with a medicine ball or whatever) consistently over a long period of time. Its something to do with capilliaries in the torso or something.

[retired]

unless your a shaolin monk, but then again i was told that they die a very painfull death due to the abuse they give their body which catches up with them when they get old.

[platinum_angel]

if you want sweet ripped abs you shouldn't

do about 500-600 sit-ups a day

you should put weight on your chest then slowly lift then stay in sitting position then go back down. do 10 reps of 3-4 sets. more advanced you get the more weight. i use dumbells on a pillow on my chest. and you will feel it.

[KZL]

Yeah, the number of sit-ups got to be ridiculous. (that number includes a couple of varieties of types of sit-ups) . And we moved to weighted situps for a while. That was back when my training partner and I were renting a house together in college. It was nice to have the motivation there.

[dave_UK_MT]

Also try sit-ups on a fit ball, really makes em burn.

[retired]

Ever tryed sit-ups on a raised platform with someone holding you so on the downward movement you cant relax on floor & go back further (like a back arch)?

[Ryo-kun]

Back Arch

Yeah, those hurt but feel good after a few days . try with 25 lb on chest.. feel REALLY good

[retired]

Yeah i think we called them "Egyptian Sit-ups" because of the way your arms were crossed like a mummy (very hard).

[KZL]

yeah, sit-ups while suspended (like off the end of a bench) is a really good, and fast workout.

[terry]

Re: Back Arch

Originally posted by Ryo-kun
Yeah, those hurt but feel good after a few days . try with 25 lb on chest.. feel REALLY good

Yeah. This is very good advice. I would like to extend that idea. Once you can do 6 sets of 10 (30 sec rest intervals) then move up to a 45 lb weight on your chest. Once you can do that then do the same exercise with a 35 lb dumbell behind your head. This is actuall quite a bit harder than having the 45 lb plate in front of you. Once you work up to a 45 lb dumbell behind your head then your abs should be in respectable shape.

Now, let's up the ante. Try getting bands from www.jumpstretch.com and doing situps off the roman chair or incline board with bands.

- A red band is 20 lbs at 6 feet
- A green band (75 lbs) at 6 feet extension

If you can do 100 situps with a blue (extra 100 lbs resistance) then you aren't human.

[retired]

We done a hard stomach exercise last night in which you had to let your partner at the end of the lesson stand on your stomach for 2 mins (sound easy but as the time goes by & your stomach tenses it gets harder to breath).