Which arts are closest to a real fight?

[sherwinc]

Hey man, you're a caracter! you know that?
Who said I want to fight with you, I just want to spar, I see that you are a master in Kung Fu and would just to prove myself, I am sure that you will have a lot to teach me, so come on! On the other hand maybe I could teach you some serious boxing which you don't seem to know much about, it would be a good exchange.

according to my instructor......

as for now, i am still a kungfu STUDENT, i am not consider as a kungfu PRACTITIONER,

it really means that i am too far to be called a kungfu instructor/master..... extremely very very far.......

i am just a kungfu student with a 10years experience in kungfu.......

Unless you are not keen to learn some new fighting arts!
Peace on you my friend1

i am now starting to learn Muay Thai Round Kick to the head, i am convinced cause i spar again one of my known friend who claim himself he knows muay thai, so we spar......

maybe he is a good teacher about it.......

(the first time i spar muay thai)

[ZAGA-BONGO]

Sounds pretty exciting to me!

well you may find it exciting, but if you dive in frrezing waters with strong currents which become stronger beeween the submerged structures, and do it for twenty days, add to it spending the rest of the time decompressing when you dive very deep; that ain't so exciting, too many illnesses raleted.
It's exciting to dive for pleasure less if it becomes a job.

Peace

[jimmy q]

[QUOTE. I am looking forward to a quick retirement.[/QUOTE]

Damn, is this some kinda subtle cry for help!? Don't do it man- u got too much to live for! -- Mwahaha

[ZAGA-BONGO]

[QUOTE. I am looking forward to a quick retirement.

Damn, is this some kinda subtle cry for help!? Don't do it man- u got too much to live for! Mwahaha[/QUOTE]



I did not ask u! stay out

[jimmy q]

Damn, is this some kinda subtle cry for help!? Don't do it man- u got too much to live for! Mwahaha

I did not ask u! stay out

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It's ok man- I know the truth hurts! Just know that we are e-here for u!

[darrianation]

according to my instructor......

as for now, i am still a kungfu STUDENT, i am not consider as a kungfu PRACTITIONER,

it really means that i am too far to be called a kungfu instructor/master..... extremely very very far.......

i am just a kungfu student with a 10years experience in kungfu.......



i am now starting to learn Muay Thai Round Kick to the head, i am convinced cause i spar again one of my known friend who claim himself he knows muay thai, so we spar......

maybe he is a good teacher about it.......

(the first time i spar muay thai)

This is yet other example of why kung fu is so wasteful. It shouldn't take that long (10 years) to learn a system.Fighting ablility and effectivness should be learned in a year or two tops (or less), but of course you get better with time and experiance.

I have students with no prior MA experiance and in 6 months of training there aren't to many trained martial artists who can touch them.

You think MT sucks, so why now are you wanting to learn?

[jubaji]

well you may find it exciting, but if you dive in frrezing waters with strong currents which become stronger beeween the submerged structures, and do it for twenty days, add to it spending the rest of the time decompressing when you dive very deep; that ain't so exciting, too many illnesses raleted.
It's exciting to dive for pleasure less if it becomes a job.

Peace

Well, I didn't say it sounded fun ...

[Boxiados]

Ten years of Kung fu and you are still a student, Wow that means it will take you a life time to bcome an intermediate!

[sherwinc]

This is yet other example of why kung fu is so wasteful. It shouldn't take that long (10 years) to learn a system.Fighting ablility and effectivness should be learned in a year or two tops (or less), but of course you get better with time and experiance.

because learning kungfu is one of my hobbies, its really interesting to do hand combinations that even my mind didnt dictate my my hands...... it is just my forearms who dictate my hands what combinations might suite to a particular situations......
(Chi Sau Theory)

even when i reach 500 years old, i still have severe interest learning kungfu..... i enjoy hitting banana trunk to hit using vast combinations......

You think MT sucks, so why now are you wanting to learn?

cause every martial art styles and systems have their own weaknesses as well as their advantages........

the very important thing to do is not to let your opponent know what is your style/systems weaknesses as well as your advantages in a fight......

Convinced???????

[sherwinc]

Ten years of Kung fu and you are still a student, Wow that means it will take you a life time to bcome an intermediate!

One of the very Good Question of Yours......

ok, i'll answer it.......

my kungfu instructor and i (including my 14 kungfu classmates) have only 3 years of KungFu training....... after that, we are on our own, we need to find job, we are going busy in life........

now, from 4th year up to 10th year i continue to learn kungfu without my instructor, our club is gone.......

how can a kungfu club grows if there are only 15 students???? since we are not commercialized.......

but sometimes, i met my instructor downtown and only ask for some guidance and kungfu faq.......

my instructor says we are only students, he cant consider us as a kungfu practitioner cause he taught us only 55 ChiDianBunKungFu attacking alphabets.....

my instructor said that practice that 55 alphabets and in time to time, you'll discover the 6-to-more applications in each of the 55 alphabets.....

making it:

55 alphabets x 6-to-more each = 330 unique techniques......

actually there are over 200 ChiDianBun alphabets all in all......

my instructor doesnt want to teach us next technique if he notice that we dont mastered our previous techniques..... the reason why until now we are only Students of KungFu.........

The Tae Kwon Do here in our place, if you have money, you can earn a Black Belt then claim yourself you couquer yourself.......

my kungfu instructor said:
The requirements to become a KungFu Practitioner is at least he knows how to use really 3 kungfu weaponry and start learning 6 set patterns of ChiDianBun.......

me???? i only learn only 1 kungfu weapon and that's Kiam (Jian) KungFu Sword, so i cant considered myself as a kungfu practitioner, instead, i am only a kungfu student......

i also know only 1 set pattern and that's called Beng Hu Ha Shan......

Chi Dian Bun Set Patterns: (for students only)
1. Beng Hu Ha Shan (original ChiDianBun set pattern)
2. Wei Hu Kun (with the influence of Hik Tai Chi Chuan)
3. Dyok Hap Kun (with the influence of Hik Tai Chi Chuan)
4. Hak Pit Sa Kun (with the influence of Hik Tai Chi Chuan)
5. Haw Kit Sa Kun (with the influence of Hik Tai Chi Chuan)
note:
after completing this 1st 5 set patterns and knowing 3 kungfu weapons - you are now ranked as a KungFu Practitioner.......
and after completing this 1st 5 set patterns - you may now start learning the Seven ChiDianBun Fighting Elements (Earth, Rock, Water, Wood, Fire, Metal, Air and there's the lost eight element - Gold)

Note:
1. Earth - as heavy as the earth (your strike hand strike is a very heavy for the opponent to redirect it....)
2. Rock - as hard as the rock (AngKa KungFu) Iron Skin Training (as well as NgoChoKun)
3. Water - as soft as the water (very soft and useless, but go to the top diving board and jump, make sure you drop to water body flat and feel the pain that water hits your face)
4. Wood - as flexible as the wood
5. Fire - as heat as the fire
6. Metal - as hard as the metal
7. Air - as light as the air
and the lost 8. Gold - Precious stone that men wants, just keep it, not to show it, not to show your art in public......

Note:
this 7 (originally 8) Fighting Elements of ChiDianBun is not the same as XingYi Quan.....
this 7 fighting elements of ChiDianBun have unique applications/techniques each of them........

Note:
After mastering the 7 Elements of ChiDianBun KungFu, the third lessons to learn is the most advanced "THE PHOENIX EYED FIST of Chi Dian Bun"

my instructor said if NgoChoKun has its Iron Body as well as AngKa has its Iron Skin and WingChun in the US has its Iron Bridge Forearm ------- well..... ChiDianBun also has its Phoenix Eyed Fist in order to match up and be competent.......

[Boxiados]

Man I admire your dedication and respect to your philosophy, it would not be wrong if you respect also the other arts!

[hEmPY]

One of the very Good Question of Yours......

ok, i'll answer it.......

my kungfu instructor and i (including my 14 kungfu classmates) have only 3 years of KungFu training....... after that, we are on our own, we need to find job, we are going busy in life........

now, from 4th year up to 10th year i continue to learn kungfu without my instructor, our club is gone.......

how can a kungfu club grows if there are only 15 students???? since we are not commercialized.......

but sometimes, i met my instructor downtown and only ask for some guidance and kungfu faq.......

my instructor says we are only students, he cant consider us as a kungfu practitioner cause he taught us only 55 ChiDianBunKungFu attacking alphabets.....

my instructor said that practice that 55 alphabets and in time to time, you'll discover the 6-to-more applications in each of the 55 alphabets.....

making it:

55 alphabets x 6-to-more each = 330 unique techniques......

actually there are over 200 ChiDianBun alphabets all in all......

my instructor doesnt want to teach us next technique if he notice that we dont mastered our previous techniques..... the reason why until now we are only Students of KungFu.........

The Tae Kwon Do here in our place, if you have money, you can earn a Black Belt then claim yourself you couquer yourself.......

my kungfu instructor said:
The requirements to become a KungFu Practitioner is at least he knows how to use really 3 kungfu weaponry and start learning 6 set patterns of ChiDianBun.......

me???? i only learn only 1 kungfu weapon and that's Kiam (Jian) KungFu Sword, so i cant considered myself as a kungfu practitioner, instead, i am only a kungfu student......

i also know only 1 set pattern and that's called Beng Hu Ha Shan......

Chi Dian Bun Set Patterns: (for students only)
1. Beng Hu Ha Shan (original ChiDianBun set pattern)
2. Wei Hu Kun (with the influence of Hik Tai Chi Chuan)
3. Dyok Hap Kun (with the influence of Hik Tai Chi Chuan)
4. Hak Pit Sa Kun (with the influence of Hik Tai Chi Chuan)
5. Haw Kit Sa Kun (with the influence of Hik Tai Chi Chuan)
note:
after completing this 1st 5 set patterns and knowing 3 kungfu weapons - you are now ranked as a KungFu Practitioner.......
and after completing this 1st 5 set patterns - you may now start learning the Seven ChiDianBun Fighting Elements (Earth, Rock, Water, Wood, Fire, Metal, Air and there's the lost eight element - Gold)

Note:
1. Earth - as heavy as the earth (your strike hand strike is a very heavy for the opponent to redirect it....)
2. Rock - as hard as the rock (AngKa KungFu) Iron Skin Training (as well as NgoChoKun)
3. Water - as soft as the water (very soft and useless, but go to the top diving board and jump, make sure you drop to water body flat and feel the pain that water hits your face)
4. Wood - as flexible as the wood
5. Fire - as heat as the fire
6. Metal - as hard as the metal
7. Air - as light as the air
and the lost 8. Gold - Precious stone that men wants, just keep it, not to show it, not to show your art in public......

Note:
this 7 (originally 8) Fighting Elements of ChiDianBun is not the same as XingYi Quan.....
this 7 fighting elements of ChiDianBun have unique applications/techniques each of them........

Note:
After mastering the 7 Elements of ChiDianBun KungFu, the third lessons to learn is the most advanced "THE PHOENIX EYED FIST of Chi Dian Bun"

my instructor said if NgoChoKun has its Iron Body as well as AngKa has its Iron Skin and WingChun in the US has its Iron Bridge Forearm ------- well..... ChiDianBun also has its Phoenix Eyed Fist in order to match up and be competent.......

HAHAHA! LOOSER! A kung fu student! A kung fu student without a club, even!!! U'll never master it! Get your ass to Muay Thai, so they kick that bullshit outta u! NOW

[sherwinc]

HAHAHA! LOOSER! A kung fu student! A kung fu student without a club, even!!! U'll never master it! Get your ass to Muay Thai, so they kick that bullshit outta u! NOW

i am not looser, cause i have my half of the KungFu Alphabets even thou our club is now gone..... once you know the alphabets, you are not a looser.....

it is like you know all the 26 English Aphabets, you dont need to memory a million English Existing Words in the Dictionary just to have the ability to conversation to someone who also knows English Dialect..... Once you know the 26 English Alphabets - you have the ability to speak a millions of English Words......

it is also the same in KungFu..... i dont need to memorize vast plenty of kungfu alphabets, why???? cause i know 55 ChiDianBun Alphabets, 108 WingChun Alphabets and 25 NgoChoKun Alphabets, not to mention my 5 Families of TaiChi learned, Mantis, and other KungFu arts learned......

Note:
if you only know 6 English Alphabets, then how can you reply to my stupid qoute?????

[jubaji]

i am not looser,

Are you tighter?







(wrapped a little too tight perhaps)

[sherwinc]

Didn't somebody already mathematically analyze the amount of technique that you claim to practice and the amount of techniques you know and show that it was crap?

Centuries ago, the time that Hik TaiChiChuan and ChiDianBun doesnt merge yet...... a lot of useless alphabets of ChiDianBun, but those useless alphabets were gradually deleted as well as upgraded until they merged with Hik TaiChi and now a total of more than 200 ChiDianBun alphabets..... all of them are century proven on its effectiveness in combat..... but i only know 55 and it doesnt matter......

So is your club gone now, or did you stop after 3 year because your instructor requires you to?

We are busy finding jobs to earn money, i cant find my kungfu classmates anymore, almost all of them are in Manila or in Mindanao.....

busy life......

BTW: I wasn't aware of the fact that there were 26 alphabets in the English language, or that just by knowing the "26 English Alphabets" that you can converse in English without knowing a single word. Apparently I was incorrect to assume that one must be knowladageable of 500-1000 words and that the "alphabets" formed the words.

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