Which grappling art should I do?

[TTEscrima]

Nope. Wrong again Mr Internet warrior

I rest my case, ignore all the points that made you look like a fool (even though you did it to yourself as usual) and make a personal attack instead.

BTW that insult seems real big with you sports proponents, news flash bud Vets find it funny because it shows your insecurity, you know deep down where you stand and what you see as the big insult reflects on who you really are and your own insecurities about your experiences, To quote GM Ed Parker "Trying to shorten my line doesn't lengthen yours".

Since it seems all your fight experiences were verbal, I expected better.

[TTEscrima]

You completely missed my point. I was saying that since even hardened criminals can't stop a 3 man team, it seems improbable you could.

I'm bored, this is way off topic.

Nite all.

Same old BS, run away and ignore the points you can't spin to your liking. Deny, evade, accuse, same old shit, different screen name.

Just for fun though, you want to claim that because one guy (who is often naked or in his underwear) and trapped in a cell the size of an elevator with no room to maneuver gets taken down by teams of specially trained men (6 to 8 is common) wearing armor working in concert and armed with an assortment of chemical weapons, clubs, tasers and shock shields as proof that SD against multiple opponents is impossible? If that's the case why do they need armor, shields, chemical weapons and stun weapons as well as special training again?

Lamest excuse for an premise of why SD against multiples is impossible EVER, even Tigerclaw makes better arguments than you.

No matter how you try and spin it you shot yourself in the foot, oh yeah, that's why you ran away, knowing when you're whipped and running, now that's good SD.

[jubaji]

You might want to not stick your nose in things you have no clue about.

See post #105

You two are truly a couple of D-bags.

[jubaji]

that's why we have gotten our asses kicked in the last few altercation around the world.

Really? Which ones?

[jubaji]

More times than I can count.

Wow, more than three times? That's a lot!

[jubaji]

Some people prefer play fighting, and some go so far as to mistake it for the real thing, or even worse, self defense.

Yeah, like playing with toy guns and rubber knives and pretending to fight but not actually doing anything for real.

[jubaji]

You don't think there's any paranoia at all in assuming that all, or even most, fights on the street end up with multiple people and weapons, etc? Come on, that's a bit paranoid.

One nut who used to post here actually said he wouldn't take a shower without at least one knife with him - in the shower....

[jubaji]

No one under 18 kids don't need to know how to kill and maim.

You're over 18, right? How many people have you killed so far?

[USArmyBJJ]

I am aware that the US military teaches guns before hand to hand. Maybe that's why an Afghani grandma choked out a Marine. We are a gun culture and we teach our military that if you have a bigger gun you'll win. that's why we have gotten our asses kicked in the last few altercation around the world.

Wow, you truly are the dumbest person on this message board. Why, if only we taught our soldiers how to fight hand-to-hand instead of with a gun, we'd win every war in the world again! I mean - look at the ninjas! They didn't have guns and they were super cool and totally awesome! Why is that the old men who teach play fighting to kids are always the biggest internet tough guys?

[USArmyBJJ]

You're over 18, right? How many people have you killed so far?

I'm sure the answer is none. For some reason, it's the older guys on this board - the ones who teach impressionable teenagers - who seem to be the biggest internet bad asses. One of the things that I like about MMA people is that they tend to be more realistic about their skills. Most acknowledge that if they're fighting five guys with knives, they're probably going to lose.

But then you get the 50 year old RBSD guys who say that not only are they going to totally wipe the floor with them with their bare hands - but that having a gun on them is a DISADVANTAGE! Apparently, kingoftheforest is so tough that a gun makes him LESS deadly. Seriously.....this guy makes TigerClaw look like a genius.

One thing (and don't take this the wrong way) - when I first started posting here, I always thought you were kind of a jerk because you made fun of other posters a lot. So, I thought I would come and be reasonable and try to persuade them with basic logic rather than just make fun of them. Now I see why you make fun of some of these guys. There's really no point to using logic or rationality with some of the posters here - it's much better to just make fun of them and let everyone see how silly their claims really are.

[kingoftheforest]

Wow, you truly are the dumbest person on this message board. Why, if only we taught our soldiers how to fight hand-to-hand instead of with a gun, we'd win every war in the world again! I mean - look at the ninjas! They didn't have guns and they were super cool and totally awesome! Why is that the old men who teach play fighting to kids are always the biggest internet tough guys?

Actually ninjas did use guns. They would even go so far as to hire themselves out as shooting instructors as a cover.

name calling is the last defense of a simple mind. As for Old Man I'm hardly.

Play fighting is what you do in a ring when you wear 2 inches of padding on your hand and a helmet so you don't accidentally get hurt.

And just ignore the fact that an 80 yr old from a 3rd world country took out a "trained" Marine because it doesn't fit your argument.


I have an idea then, we don't need to train any people we'll just fly over an nuke anybody that disagrees with us, then we don't have to waste troops and ammo shooting them all.


Go dress up in your spandex superhero costume and hop into your octagon boundary, rule enforced ring and play fight some more.

Get you hair colored all kinds or weird ass colors and get another tattoo, then spend 10 minutes rolling around with your face in another guys crotch.

[USArmyBJJ]

Actually ninjas did use guns. They would even go so far as to hire themselves out as shooting instructors as a cover.

Somehow, I knew you were an expert on ninjas...

And just ignore the fact that an 80 yr old from a 3rd world country took out a "trained" Marine because it doesn't fit your argument.

I didn't ignore it. I just don't care. Maybe you should head over to Afghanistan. I'm sure with your awesome ninja skills, you could totally save the world. Come on man. Most of us here aren't teenagers. You aren't going to amaze us with false bravado.

I have an idea then, we don't need to train any people we'll just fly over an nuke anybody that disagrees with us, then we don't have to waste troops and ammo shooting them all.

Um.....OK?

Get you hair colored all kinds or weird ass colors and get another tattoo, then spend 10 minutes rolling around with your face in another guys crotch.

Seriously? That's the best you could come up with?

[Junka]

I rest my case, ignore all the points that made you look like a fool (even though you did it to yourself as usual) and make a personal attack instead.

Actually you made the personal attack by accusing me of being another person with a different screen name. This is my first visit to this forum and maybe admin can confirm this by matching the IP addresses. Mine originates in Africa.

I doubt you'll be man enough to apologize but I am. I am sorry I called you an internet warrior, it was an underhanded insult.

That said, you're the one whose evaded questions. Instead of entering into a debate, you've just come in blasting MMA and BJJ with the same insults we've seen for years. You still haven't told us what you WOULD do if taken to the ground or wrapped up in a clinch. True RBSD should take MMA seriously and learn from it and then make up for it's limitations.

Same old BS, run away and ignore the points you can't spin to your liking. Deny, evade, accuse, same old shit, different screen name.

More BS and more lies.

Just for fun though, you want to claim that because one guy (who is often naked or in his underwear) and trapped in a cell the size of an elevator with no room to maneuver gets taken down by teams of specially trained men (6 to 8 is common) wearing armor working in concert and armed with an assortment of chemical weapons, clubs, tasers and shock shields as proof that SD against multiple opponents is impossible? If that's the case why do they need armor, shields, chemical weapons and stun weapons as well as special training again?

In the UK and Europe generally it's 3 man teams and no weapons. That's the industry standard C&R and unlike your claims it's tried tested and proven. I dunno how things work there but we don't keep our prisoners naked and confined in cells all day. Sorry dude

[Junka]

"Please don't stab me just take my wallet", isn't a SD move. neither is giving up. Least not where I'm from.

Yes it is. Krav Maga instructors actually advise to loose your wallet rather than engage a knife. Actually so does anyone with any bloody common sense.

The only reason you'd engage an armed assailant is if you didn't have a choice, it's got a lot to do with defending self, friends and family and nothing to do with misplaced pride and ego.
My money would still go on a good sports striker here, since if they survive the initial cut/cuts, they have the ability to drop the man behind the knife.

[jubaji]

I'm sure the answer is none. For some reason, it's the older guys on this board - the ones who teach impressionable teenagers - who seem to be the biggest internet bad asses. One of the things that I like about MMA people is that they tend to be more realistic about their skills. Most acknowledge that if they're fighting five guys with knives, they're probably going to lose.

But then you get the 50 year old RBSD guys who say that not only are they going to totally wipe the floor with them with their bare hands - but that having a gun on them is a DISADVANTAGE! Apparently, kingoftheforest is so tough that a gun makes him LESS deadly. Seriously.....this guy makes TigerClaw look like a genius.

One thing (and don't take this the wrong way) - when I first started posting here, I always thought you were kind of a jerk because you made fun of other posters a lot. So, I thought I would come and be reasonable and try to persuade them with basic logic rather than just make fun of them. Now I see why you make fun of some of these guys. There's really no point to using logic or rationality with some of the posters here - it's much better to just make fun of them and let everyone see how silly their claims really are.

I am kind of a jerk, but you're right about all the rest!