kickboxing for self defense

[EmptyneSs]

what do you guys think of good kickboxing skills for self defense?

[Cyclops]

I think they are great. Used some of mine myself a while back.

[EmptyneSs]

I think they are great. Used some of mine myself a while back.

what happened?

[bigboywasim]

Kickboxing works great in a fight. My brother got in a fight at school once with an older kid. He did one well placed low kick and the kid couldn't get back up. You can really hurt people with kickboxing that have no martial art experience or are not conditioned well. Know the guy you are fighting. My brother wouldn't have gone with the low kick if he was fighting a football player or something. These guys can take some pain. My brother is a grappler as well. He would have went for the clinch and gave the player some knees and elbows. Muay Thai is my favorite striking art.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

Isnt Muay Thai(ring style) just the standard kickboxing now?

[bigboywasim]

Isnt Muay Thai(ring style) just the standard kickboxing now?

Muay Thai is used in the ring. It is the world's most advanced kickboxing. It has been proven effective in MMA. This art uses everthing from boxing, kicking, and using knees and elbows. Here is a little info and a nice clip.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muay_thai

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-274676153087962498&q=Muay+Thai

[EmptyneSs]

Isnt Muay Thai(ring style) just the standard kickboxing now?

even non thai kickboxing styles, like regular kickboxing that doesnt use elbows and knees is pretty effective inmop.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

It has been proven effective in MMA. This art uses everthing from boxing, kicking, and using knees and elbows. Here is a little info and a nice clip.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muay_thai

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...98&q=Muay+Thai

Lol, I know. And ive already seen that info and that video. I just wanted to know if it was the standard art(minus the knee,elbows) used for kickboxing competitions, and it is. Thanks though!

[Cyclops]

what happened?

I guess they guy got confused when I started landing kicks to his body, he drops his guard to protect the body, only to get pounded with fists.

[EmptyneSs]

Lol, I know. And ive already seen that info and that video. I just wanted to know if it was the standard art(minus the knee,elbows) used for kickboxing competitions, and it is. Thanks though!

well, it is one of the most popular styles for kickboxing competitions, however san shou is also becoming pretty popular for competing in competitions.

[GonzoStyles]

some techniques you'll see in the ring not based on modern Muay Thai are the side kick, jumping back kick, axe kick, spinning backfist. But basically you are right, most of the top guys are training Muay Thai now, they just work some different strikes in to catch people expecting just Muay Thai. Genki Sudo, and Cung Le are some fighters who use strikes that are not indicitive of Muay Thai to great effect.

[darrianation]

Kickboxing is of vital importance in self defense; however it is only one component. KB without other supporting or extending platforms leaves to many things out. What if the fight is against multiples?? What if the fight you get is a gun fight? What if the fight you get is against a college linebacker who bench presses 450lbs who will most likely be able to overcome your unarmed skill sets?

KB is great to cross train in or you may train in it as a primary and cross train in something else. But make no mistake if SD (not sport or for purely fitness) is your goal you will need a integrated multidisciplinary generalist platform.

[hEmPY]

kickboxin's shit

[Adept]

kickboxin's shit

Lol...well, kickboxing is as deadly as you want it to be. I've seen good grapplers submit bad kickboxers and good kickboxers knock out bad grapplers. Like someone said earlier, it is one of many components. Personally, I think Muay Thai is pretty effective in its hard conditioning of its practitioners.

[darrianation]

I know Adept doesn't like it when I start free styling my answers, but this is the same question "IS Judo good for a street fighting", "Is karate useless", "is kickboxing good for self-defense", etc?

The answer is yes, within certain limits. Those limits are fragile when you consider multiple assailants (multiple armed assailants), disproportional armament, the fight takes place in a range you are not accustomed too, sudden ambush, or the bad guy out classes you physically, etc.

Kickboxing rather it is karate, western kickboxing, or Muay Thai (or any striking art) has a finite limitation. They are single minded approaches to multiple possibilities and range specific in an environment where ranges can change dynamically.

If the question was “Do you recommend kickboxing for cross training in as an adjunct to my grappling, and weapons training?” then the answer is absolutely. Now we can talk about what type of kickboxing…I prefer Muay Thai because it gives you more robust options both in the striking range and the stand up grapple.