Vital striking points

[Thai Bri]

I think you guys may be underestimating body blows. Even well conditioned, trained fighters get doubled over by a body shot all the time, and if the person ISN'T conditioned the chances are it's going to leave them too busy gasping for air to be much of a threat. I think there are a lot of scenarios that can be easily ended with a good hard punch to the body.

Hmmmmm, the body. Hmmmmmm. Now that's pretty specific -

[MMA Apostate]

When I first read the begining of this forum topic I thought I'd be able to bring in a POV that would be educational to you guys but instead I was the one trying to absorb all the info you guys were laying out. I don't know if there can be anything else to add. Maybe this...(if it hasn't been said already and I missed it) Don't train yourself to have a favorite set/group of targets that you like to strike on people. Instead favor them all equaly and go for the closest one that you know you can execute properly that bring about the desired destructive results. Thus making you better at adapting and dominating in the constant changing motions that happen during the fight.

Good topic, glad you asked the question. Hope others add to it.

You guys have a great day

[Sagacious Lu]

Hmmmmm, the body. Hmmmmmm. Now that's pretty specific -

I more or less agree with you're idea of aiming for general areas. If you see that the solar plexus or chin (or any of the more vulnerable targets) is open it's a good idea to take the shot, but you usually don't get nice clean shots so you can't bet on it happening. However, if you hit hard and hit often you're going to hurt the guy even if you don't land a perfect shot.

[Garland]

You simply cannot condition yourself to take eyeball hits effectively, so they work on everybody.

didn't the spartans use thin sticks to whip the areas around the eye to prevent blinking and condition the eye for everything but retinal damage, a striaght poke, and dislodgement?

I read it somewhere...I don't know if there's any credibility to it...but those dudes were hardcore...so I'm leaning towards the possibility it may be true.

[Thai Bri]

Don't try this at home kids.

[Garland]

really don't try this at home kids.

[Tant01]

It's all fun and games until someone loses and eye...







Then it's just fun! LOL

[WildWest.]

Took me a while, but this one is in response to the eye as a target. Slapping or poking the eye is a great tool. It rarely causes any permanent damage, rarely leaves any tell-tale marks, takes almost no effort to achieve a result, and requires no physical strength at all. You simply cannot condition yourself to take eyeball hits effectively, so they work on everybody. And a good shot will stop all but the most determioned attackers stop dead in their tracks. The ones who don't stop altogether usually hesitate long enough for you to pull off something else or take off. You need to be a little sneaky when you use them, though, because in my experience, people expect head shots in a fight, and the head is still where most people store their eyeballs. A quick shot to the balls or shins can draw attention down long enough to get a quick shot on the eyes. Once, I even stuck my pointer finger up at eye level and contemplated it for a second, then turned it toward the guy and casually stuck it in his eyeball. He watched it happen and never did a thing about it. He freaked out when I got him, but he was completely ineffective, and me and one other bouncer walked him out with minimal heartache. Slapping the eye is every bit as good as poking it, but it takes a lot more force. Tears and imbalance make it hard for a guy to come after you when his eyes don't work, and if you can't beat a blind man, there's something wrong...

What do you believe is the best weapon to strike the eyes with Mike (and anybody else out there)? Knuckle fist? Finger striking a la WC? Thumb strike?

[J-Luck]

#1 is a good place to break the jaw, or **** up the ear as well...a hard hit to the ganglian process is mean, and a left hook to the jaw will drop somebody pretty quick.

2. Hitting the chin up to cause a KO works by creating a contra coup type injury. That means you pop them in the chin hard enough, or just right in order to make their brain swish back and hit the occipital lobe on the back of their brain box hard enough to make the forebrain rebound into the front of the skull. They wake up not being able to see right for a couple of minutes...similar to smashing them in the back of the head with a blackjack...only less likely to kill them.

3. This is a gung fu thing...it's a pressure point, for sure...and works probably as well in practicality as just smashing the nose open...which also causes pain distracts the opponent.

4...doesn't work, sorry. I had my eardrum ruptured by a slap...it threw my balance off a bit, but I went on to knock the girl's boyfriend out, with no real problems for about 45 minutes, when it really started to hurt.

5. Hella. Eyeballs are harder than you'd expect...focus on dislodging more than raking if you're really serious. Crushing the actual orbs may be more difficult than you'd expect.

6. Hitting the throat can kill...but who knows. Either way, a good chance they'll at least be gasping for air...but never stop with just one blow anyway...unless you're Mas Oyama and regularly off bulls barehanded.

7. I've heard the same explanation for this, but never seen it work. I wouldn't count on it.

8. see my reply to #2.

9. The sternum, technically speaking, is a bad area to hit. It's pretty damn solid with the exception of a little nudgle called the acromian process at the bottom end, and would be much harder to break then the actual ribs which are just two bones connected together with tendon. Hit the floating ribs and flase ribs the 2 last ribs down on the sides of the body...these break easier, and if they're unlucky, stand a chance of puncturing organs needed for living, such as the lungs.

Well your at body blows, solar plexus will knock the wind out of somebody, but to do damage, aim for the spleen, apendix, and LIVER. Or slap the shit out of their kidneys in back.

10. Tender-loin. mwah ha ha...so it the sciatic nerve on the inside of the thigh.

11. Knees are good.

12. toes, you might as well try to break their fingers.



(also go for collarbone, tailbone, if you can stomp and ankle (or any outstretched limb) when they're on the ground, that's good. Pretty much anything really hard to the spine is going to cause them problems.) There are more...read a Grey's anatomy.

Actually 1&2 are far more likely to be due to nerve disruption in the jaw hinge. If the jaw crashes into the sensitive nerves of that area... knockout occurs. The way you're talking about is possible.. but more likely to be caused by a baseball bat.

Lol... just becuase the eardrums didn't work for you ... doesnt mean they don't work. You were lucky indeed. People die from that type of injury... and it's not just the rare occasion.

Right on with the sternum strike... the chest plate is one of the strongest areas of the body... it does protect the heart.

[Crimson Khan]

btw on the first page someone wanted a greys anatomy
there is a site u can probably google for it that is incredibley comprehensible
its greys anatomy but instead of flicking thru pages, u can click on the area that you want to know about
just google greys anatomy its probably the first thing to come up
(i needed this for a class once)

Elbow to the bone on th side of the eye protecting the eye
Great hit!

[wado_kai]

very simple... the point which is open

[Garland]

Elbow to the bone on th side of the eye protecting the eye
Great hit!

I've had pals have their occipital orbits crushed from kicks and elbows there.

[Crimson Khan]

see, i know what im on about
lol
yea, i've actualy only elbowd sum1 there once, but when i did, man did it work well
hahaha

[WildWest.]

I have had much success with just relaxing my hand, fanning out the fingers and flicking them toward the eyes when in long range. It gives me more reach, and it's pretty quick. Close in, I most often graze across the eyes with the thumb. It's a simple movement on the way to the clinch. I've found that power is irrelevant, but speed helps a great deal. Increases the "shock value." Really, anything is okay, though.

When in doubt, remember Mike's Law number 63:

"Anything is a pressure point if you hit it hard enough!"

So its more of a flick with the fingers at the eyes? We are taught this at Hapkido, to be used as you described, where you use it to distract your opponent and then follow it up with something more finishing. So I guess combining it with a shot to the balls or knees you can then follow through with a couple of elbows and end the confrontation?? Or something similar??

63 is a good law.

[Garland]

I forgot one...flicking the fingers at or near the prostate.