Training to Fight a Marine

[E.C. Valdimar]

How's everyone doing? Glad to be a member of this Forum.

Well, let's get to it. In a few months I may have to go toe-to-toe w/ a young guy getting out of the Marines. I'm 25; he's maybe 21 at the most. But he his taller then me and to be honest the fact that he his in the Marines does make me think he maybe a tough guy to put down. I know that Marines are JUST HUMAN like me ... but...

Now I don't want anyone to get the idea that I'm gunning for this guy for no good reason or anything like. It's not like that at all. Trust me when I say that he is not a good person. He's got a power trip from being in the Marines. He's a criminal {just never been arrested} and has messed w/ my ex.girlfriend. And if things get ugly again I'm not going to back down.

That's why I'm here to hear ideas about how to train better for a possible fight w/ a punk Marine. I'm not w/ out my own training. In my teens I did Jeet Kune Do and Kickboxing for almost two years and for the past 3 months have been doing Krav Maga and gained about 10 pounds of Muscle.

All that being said I'd still like to hear any advice, words of wisdom, training tips and maybe ever personal stories of when you fought a bigger, stronger guy and won.

Thanx everyone!
~R.R.

P.S.
Please no comments about how it's better to not fight. Believe me I know that. But I just think that it might really come to that.

[DickHardman]

most marines dont really get that much hand to hand combat training. if he is a nutcase/criminal then you may want to consider carrying real protection with you and making your home safer. im not sure how much help the police will be if you try to talk to them, unless he has actually committed a crime. a restraining order wont stop someone who is intent on hurting you. carrying a weapon may be illegal, but if you know someones out to get you then risking the fine of carrying a concealed weapon may be better than being killed by a nutcase.

may want to give you gf a small blade like a spyderco delica in case he creeps up on her when she is alone.

[E.C. Valdimar]

Hey thanx for the reply, Hardman. You know I had heard that Marines really don't get that much Hand-to-Hand training. The thing that crosses my mind is that because of the training he got in the Marines that he might be able to Push himself more and take a lot of punishment.

As for the Criminal activity; he's more the kind of guy who would smash my car windows while I slept. But who's to say it wouldn't go farther?

[Tom Yum]

Did this guy smash your car window?

If he comes threatening you, document it and get a restraining order. In addition to that, I'd just keep on training and conditioning like you have been and be prepaired if it ever goes toe to toe.

[E.C. Valdimar]

What's up Tom? Nice pick of the month.

He hasn't gone after my car. Believe me he would be in jail if he did. But that does seem to be his special. He was quite a vandel. He has gone after a few people's cars, though. The big thing was when he was drunk he punched a hole in the wall right by my ex.

There is a lot more to these stories -- though I don't think she would want all of it shared.

[dogzilla]

Well ill just tell this, no matter if he is not trained in hand-to-hand fighting, he is trained to stand up for more time than ordinary ppl, he has fizical power and condition, thats 100% that i know, any soldier is trained for endurance, so is him.

E.C never under estimate oponent :P if ur realy in trouble whit him, start traning like hell, MA + body strenght and condition and so on....


sory never been in situation i would need traning for this kind of situation,...





Im still sleeppy, need to drink up my coffe, maybe ill chek back later, to even see what i wrote

[Jiu-fu fighter]

Let me put it to you this way bro,

If it comes down to it, and its the moment, and the fight is just about to start

Go total SAS on his ass ( Suprise, Aggression, Speed ) , make the first move, be aggressive, and go with it fast.

The men you dont want to fight are the ones who can go from neutral to 100 mph in no time, you want to be this guy. Be prepared to kickass, prepared to win, dont have any doubts or fear ( cause this will hold you back ) , and go for it.

Its all in the mind bro,

and sure train the body too

good luck

[E.C. Valdimar]

Great post Jui-fu Fighter! Your advice really means a lot.

His height advantage does really bug me. It is the Agression. I have this idea that since he's had the Marine training he'll be able to turn on the aggression faster then me.

[dogzilla]

Just let the dog in side of you out, the dog is never happy, show him that.

[Jiu-fu fighter]

Its also something I am working on too man,

some people are naturally aggressive, and lets face it those are the people who have the advantage in a fight,

if you get the guy to start moving back and retreating you are in the power zone, he can not see behind him, he is liable to trip, he cant move as fast, meanwhile you can move forward with your punches, you can see where you are going,

its naturally a greater tactical advantage to be the aggressor when it comes down to it in a fight

I am naturally unagressive, it takes a lot to get me riled, but I have slowly started to discover my aggression zone through self discovery, and now can turn it on in a moment.

Use visualization to visualize the fight happening, see yourself as aggressive, strong, taking him down hard, see him dissing your family , see yourself hurt in the hospital, realise you dont want this, see him beating up your gf you mom,,, now recognize the anger and aggression, practice going into this state within a moment..

and go out there and kick ass

[Jiu-fu fighter]

bigger guys have been taken down many times by much smaller guys with bigger aggression and more fight.

I have seen it, and believe me it is shocking to witness.

lol...I should publish the SAS formula, or is it taken??

later bro,

[Tom Yum]

He hasn't gone after my car. Believe me he would be in jail if he did. But that does seem to be his special. He was quite a vandel. He has gone after a few people's cars, though. The big thing was when he was drunk he punched a hole in the wall right by my ex.

Get your evidence that this guy has been damaging people's cars. That's kind of low IMO. Sounds like a mean drunk too.

Keep it simple. Keep training and sparring. Talk to your instructors about this too - they may have some good input. Work with taller opponents and ask them if they are comfortable going at it a little harder.

PS - I am suprised that someone with a title of Reverend like yourself would find themselves in a fight with a Marine....something sounds fishy about that....

[E.C. Valdimar]

Get your evidence that this guy has been damaging people's cars. That's kind of low IMO. Sounds like a mean drunk too.

Keep it simple. Keep training and sparring. Talk to your instructors about this too - they may have some good input. Work with taller opponents and ask them if they are comfortable going at it a little harder.

PS - I am suprised that someone with a title of Reverend like yourself would find themselves in a fight with a Marine....something sounds strange about that.

LOL Well, let's just say that I am not a Christian Rev. Besided I think no matter who someone is there may come time that they just have to stand -up to someone.

Anyway, thanx a lot for the advice. Good, down to earth and real. Really means a lot. And you know I was about to bring up this situation to my Krav Instructor. But I was pretty used to other teacher talking about "always try to avoid the fight". I'm going to bring it up to my teacher.

Thanx again.

[Tom Yum]

LOL Well, let's just say that I am not a Christian Rev. Besided I think no matter who someone is there may come time that they just have to stand -up to someone..

Really? May I ask what kind of Reverend are you?

I checked out your username on other message boards.

I find it interesting that a Reverend has two posts back to back about:

1. Asking how to talk to teenage girls about promiscuity

http://fr.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AruDtuOv8ul.PvjBHqE_SKc4Agx.?qid=20070226221048AAFqFGd

2. Advice about dating a girl from work.

http://fr.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AhuFAgV1tyQRXXgYtLlcBtA5Agx.?qid=20070220174943AAahkIS

I don't know what all of this means, but it sounds strange coming from anyone with the title Reverend...

Anyway, thanx a lot for the advice. Good, down to earth and real. Really means a lot. And you know I was about to bring up this situation to my Krav Instructor. But I was pretty used to other teacher talking about "always try to avoid the fight". I'm going to bring it up to my teacher.Thanx again.

I hope you're not some kind of predator...

[E.C. Valdimar]

Really? May I ask what kind of Reverend are you?

Religion is not the topic of this message board. More wars and murders have been caused by religion then any other reason. Let's please leave that out of this. Thank you.

I checked out your username on other message boards.

Hmmm... Maybe I should be worried about this. In fact, I think I am.

I find it interesting that a Reverend has two posts back to back about:

1. Asking how to talk to teenage girls about promiscuity

http://fr.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AruDtuOv8ul.PvjBHqE_SKc4Agx.?qid=20070226221048AAFqFGd

I was actually asking what is the psychology behind why some girls are so self-destructive w/ sex and how to help them. Please get it right. I think the way you put it makes me sound like a perv.

2. Advice about dating a girl from work.

http://fr.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AhuFAgV1tyQRXXgYtLlcBtA5Agx.?qid=20070220174943AAahkIS

What's wrong w/ that? That's how A LOT of people meet and start relationships.

I don't know what all of this means, but it sounds strange coming from anyone with the title Reverend...

I'm a person first. I person who knows I don't have all the answers and wants advice. That's it.

I hope you're not some kind of predator...

Here on the net I'm sure it's easy to come across all kinds of people. Both good and bad. Most everyone likes me and I try to never do anything to hurt anyone. My situation w/ the Marine is special.