The Reality of the Blade

[mellow]

My head will never be where they can strike my head. For instance if I am trapping is right arm I can either be to his right side where he can't strike me with his left hand. If I am directly in front of him I will keep my body close to his and my head will be near his right shoulder where once again he will not be able to strike me either. I have thought of all the ways he can strike me and its covered. Once you gain control of his knife arm and the blade is no longer a danger......close proximity allows me to avoid strikes. I can also deploy my knife safely once I have trapped his knife arm allowing me to thrust or slash him for the kill. Its the same concept if my attacker has an impact weapon.......in close I avoid the power of his strikes.......same thing about strikes....jam his kicks or punches. If a guy throws a kick...if I just stay there then his power will hurt me....but if I close the distance the power is nullified.

Fighting is a science........its hard at first but once you get the concepts it becomes easier.

All time funniest post on defend.net ever!!!

The only thing missing is a ninja killing belly to back suplex!!!

[black knife]

Well you better prepare your mind to do so just in case you have to.......I have already decided that if I have to take a life to defend myself or a loved one then thats what I have to do....I won't lose sleep over it either. If someone makes the choice to seriously harm me or a family member then he made his choice.....and I have already made mine. I have had this way of thinking since I joined the Marine Corps.....I knew that one day as a Marine I might have had to take a life or lives. I also accepted hit when I became cop as well. I have never stopped thinking this way. The way things are today.....a person has to accept that they might have to do whatever it takes to protect one self. Too many people say they will never kill someone but then they ended up doing while protecting themselves and then go crazy with guilt afterwords. I had a buddy that killed a man in the line of duty and lost it.....he could not continue police work afterwords....took a medical leave...not me I would not give a ****......if he tries to kill me I will kill him first.......I will go home not him. So if this bothers you and the situation comes up you might hesitate...and that might get you killed. Its a mindset one must have........"A warrior never worries about taking life if it means defending a life." This way of thinking will probably disturbe some but in the end it is about survival nothing more.

[kingoftheforest]

Well you better prepare your mind to do so just in case you have to.......I have already decided that if I have to take a life to defend myself or a loved one then thats what I have to do....I won't lose sleep over it either. If someone makes the choice to seriously harm me or a family member then he made his choice.....and I have already made mine. I have had this way of thinking since I joined the Marine Corps.....I knew that one day as a Marine I might have had to take a life or lives. I also accepted hit when I became cop as well. I have never stopped thinking this way. The way things are today.....a person has to accept that they might have to do whatever it takes to protect one self. Too many people say they will never kill someone but then they ended up doing while protecting themselves and then go crazy with guilt afterwords. I had a buddy that killed a man in the line of duty and lost it.....he could not continue police work afterwords....took a medical leave...not me I would not give a ****......if he tries to kill me I will kill him first.......I will go home not him. So if this bothers you and the situation comes up you might hesitate...and that might get you killed. Its a mindset one must have........"A warrior never worries about taking life if it means defending a life." This way of thinking will probably disturbe some but in the end it is about survival nothing more.

Well that was a nice little rant thanks for sharing. but i believe you have completely missed Mr. mellow's point there sonny jim.

[Franco M]

Well you better prepare your mind to do so just in case you have to.......I have already decided that if I have to take a life to defend myself or a loved one then thats what I have to do....I won't lose sleep over it either. If someone makes the choice to seriously harm me or a family member then he made his choice.....and I have already made mine. I have had this way of thinking since I joined the Marine Corps.....I knew that one day as a Marine I might have had to take a life or lives. I also accepted hit when I became cop as well. I have never stopped thinking this way. The way things are today.....a person has to accept that they might have to do whatever it takes to protect one self. Too many people say they will never kill someone but then they ended up doing while protecting themselves and then go crazy with guilt afterwords. I had a buddy that killed a man in the line of duty and lost it.....he could not continue police work afterwords....took a medical leave...not me I would not give a ****......if he tries to kill me I will kill him first.......I will go home not him. So if this bothers you and the situation comes up you might hesitate...and that might get you killed. Its a mindset one must have........"A warrior never worries about taking life if it means defending a life." This way of thinking will probably disturbe some but in the end it is about survival nothing more.

It's all about the mindset. I teach a womens SD class which includes knife fighting. One of the ladies was particularly good with her knifework and after a few months she reached what I would consider as very lethal proficiency. For her birthday I bought her a nice Spyderco pocket knife and when I visited her at the pub where she tends bar, I noticed she wasn't carrying her knife. I asked her "Hey, ya ever carry your knife?". She basically told me that though she really appreciated the gift, she refused to carry it because she was afraid of the possibility of having to actually use it. The training taught her how easy it is to cause serious damage to someone, and she thinks she couldn't handle the trauma of inflicting that kind damage. Kinda like black knife's buddy.
I told her it's obvious that she's never been assaulted or raped. She verified my assumption.

[black knife]

They won't be convinced until something happens to them.....then it might be too late. The way things are going now and violence is rising everybody should be worried about becoming victims. I always carry a knife.... sometimes two.

[kingoftheforest]

I never leave the house without one, and don't go where I can't take it with me. However no one knows how they will deal with a situation mentally after it's all said and done. If it doesn't affect you in some way your not human.

However being paranoid isn't ever going to help any situation.

[mellow]

I believe your are missing the point of this thread. Most of us here have resolved to defend ourselves and our loved ones if the need arises. The problem presented is that while many, many people have resolved to use deadly force, most have never truly considered the ramifications of using a blade or other lethal devices on another human being. We study the how, but not much on the why and when. This can result in outcomes such as the one in the example presented by Mr. Garland. Is it worth killing someone and screwing up your life over a cigarette?

[Clubber Lang]

I believe your are missing the point of this thread. Most of us here have resolved to defend ourselves and our loved ones if the need arises. The problem presented is that while many, many people have resolved to use deadly force, most have never truly considered the ramifications of using a blade or other lethal devices on another human being. We study the how, but not much on the why and when. This can result in outcomes such as the one in the example presented by Mr. Garland. Is it worth killing someone and screwing up your life over a cigarette?

Sadly, in my experience, you are a real rare minority in martial arts. That's a shame, because I think that's one of the most mature and intelligent posts I have seen on this forum. If more people thought like you, martial artists wouldn't be so widely perceived as paranoid, macho, make believe killing machines.

....which is what most of them are.

[Clubber Lang]

I never leave the house without one, and don't go where I can't take it with me.

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However being paranoid isn't ever going to help any situation.

Can you see the irony here?

[kingoftheforest]

Can you see the irony here?

I see no irony in being prepared and allowing myself to be prepared. I have 3 fire extinguishers in my house.Am I paranoid about fire or just prepared in case something happens.

I see you must have taken the same point missing class as some of the others. But thanks for the 2 cents input.

[jonbey]

I am very dubious about any trained martial artist that carries a weapon. But then maybe I am a little naive, as I live in a relatively safe and peaceful part of the world. Although you must defend yourself when the time arises, how often will having a knife really help? If someone attacks you with a knife, the chances are you will not see it coming, usually you'll be stabbed in the back, or it will be a fast punch while you are not looking.

The problem with people carrying weapons really is that they often feel that they can more confidently go into dangerous areas, or get involved in more dangerous situations because of it, and ths puts them and others at greater risk of harm. But as I said, I never go to nightclubs now, or wonder around rough neighbourhoods.

[kingoftheforest]

I am very dubious about any trained martial artist that carries a weapon. But then maybe I am a little naive, as I live in a relatively safe and peaceful part of the world. Although you must defend yourself when the time arises, how often will having a knife really help? If someone attacks you with a knife, the chances are you will not see it coming, usually you'll be stabbed in the back, or it will be a fast punch while you are not looking.

The problem with people carrying weapons really is that they often feel that they can more confidently go into dangerous areas, or get involved in more dangerous situations because of it, and ths puts them and others at greater risk of harm. But as I said, I never go to nightclubs now, or wonder around rough neighbourhoods.

I covered that in some of my previous posts. Avoidance is the best self defense policy you can have.

[Garland]

Glad to see this thread still going...apparently half of my posts don't go through.

[GQchris]

The problem with people carrying weapons really is that they often feel that they can more confidently go into dangerous areas, or get involved in more dangerous situations because of it, and ths puts them and others at greater risk of harm. But as I said, I never go to nightclubs now, or wonder around rough neighbourhoods.

I don't go out of my way looking for trouble, or specifically pick out the skechiest part of town to go hang out, but I refuse to live my life walking on eggshells or fear anyone.

I want to enjoy my life, live my life, mind my own business and prefer to stay out of trouble. Every now and then I will want to go get a couple of pints of good brewski, and I don't go looking for a fight, but neither will I back down if I have to defend myself.

[Tant01]

Watch out for "GREEN BEER" today! I understand it has Irish roots? And we all know how the IRISH like to fight!

Stay safe all!