Please, Stop Training For Self Defense!

[kingoftheforest]

Kicks. Groin shots. Non-ring sport fighting ability.

The benefit of knowing there isn't always a referee.



Do you have a fire extinguisher in your home?

Do you lock your doors?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

[kingoftheforest]

I was right, 'Kid' is a weak ploy by the Ponytail Gang. Pathetic.

I'm sure the closest thing you've had to a gritty situation is under cooked rice at the sushi house.

Keep tryin'.

[mellow]

Why should I check out a RBSD school, could you answer that?

Because it might be fun!!!! Yippee!!!

[Tokyo Kid]

Kicks. Groin shots. Non-ring sport fighting ability.

The benefit of knowing there isn't always a referee.

OK, kickboxing then. Or maybe spend a half-hour out of his life and teach him a groin-kick or eye-gouge. Do you really think a well trained boxer can't fight outside the ring, without a ref?

Do you have a fire extinguisher in your home?

Do you lock your doors?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

I don't need to spend five hours a week pretending to put out fires, do I?

[Tokyo Kid]

Because it might be fun!!!! Yippee!!!

Kind of like lazer-tag? Is that what you get out of it, pretending to beat up compliant muggers all day? Screaming "FIRE!" while punching giant headed pseudo-rapists in their padded balls? Or is it the warm fuzzy feeling you get knowing if some one lunge-punches you know secret death-touch techniques that the military doesn't want you to know?

[kingoftheforest]

OK, kickboxing then. Or maybe spend a half-hour out of his life and teach him a groin-kick or eye-gouge. Do you really think a well trained boxer can't fight outside the ring, without a ref?

if that's what you got out of that, then that's your problem.

Mind you it has been said over and over, you fight like you train.

I don't need to spend five hours a week pretending to put out fires, do I?

No but I'm sure you're an expert at it already.







Do you expect your house to burn down at any minute.

Do you anticipate you will be in a car accident every time you leave the house?

Do you expect to be robbed every night?



This paranoia in all RBSD school you speak of is obviously either a ploy to troll, or something somebody told you and you took at face value.

Never in any RBSD class I have attended you instructed in have people been told


"You will be mugged", "You will be raped." "Everyone is out to get you!!!"


This is shit spouted by idiots or people who have no basis in the subject.


I don't need to point out which one you are, you did already.


I have loads of fun hitting the heavy bag, and the hit pads.

Training is something I do everyday. practice equals skills.

I have shit loads of fun hitting the reinforced tire stack with my escrima sticks.

And practicing knife work just makes me giggle with glee.

So pull a couple of feet out of your mouth and try again.

[kingoftheforest]

Comedy is right.

Tokyo Kid (東京キッド?) is a 1950 black and white Japanese film musical comedy and drama directed by Torajiro Saito.




Tokyo Kid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Tokyo Kid]

if that's what you got out of that, then that's your problem.

Mind you it has been said over and over, you fight like you train.

What I got out of it was, you assume you have something over your basic boxer because you know something he doesn't. Now, I'm not talking about your own fighting ability here, I don't know you from Adam.

No but I'm sure you're an expert at it already.

Do you expect your house to burn down at any minute.

Do you anticipate you will be in a car accident every time you leave the house?

Do you expect to be robbed every night?

Do you have a point here, because you seem to be making mine for me.

This paranoia in all RBSD school you speak of is obviously either a ploy to troll, or something somebody told you and you took at face value.

Never in any RBSD class I have attended you instructed in have people been told


"You will be mugged", "You will be raped." "Everyone is out to get you!!!"


This is shit spouted by idiots or people who have no basis in the subject.


I don't need to point out which one you are, you did already.


I have loads of fun hitting the heavy bag, and the hit pads.

Training is something I do everyday. practice equals skills.

I have shit loads of fun hitting the reinforced tire stack with my escrima sticks.

And practicing knife work just makes me giggle with glee.

So pull a couple of feet out of your mouth and try again.

I've seen this in RBSD schools, and I'm sure you've seen it too, though not in the exagerated form your or maybe even I has put it. And you seem to enjoy the same exact aspects of training I do, so I hope if you have seen the paranoid "shit spouted by idiots" that I have, I hope it would leave a bad taste in your mouth as well.

Unless of course you like the taste of shit in your mouth, which I'm sure you're acustomed to due to amount of shit that comes out of it, tough guy.

You're coming around though, kiddo. You just don't know it yet.

[Tokyo Kid]

Tokyo Kid (東京キッド?) is a 1950 black and white Japanese film musical comedy and drama directed by Torajiro Saito.




Tokyo Kid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Crap.

You know, it sounded cool at the time, "The Tokyo Kid". But a 40 year old calling himself " Anything Kid" is a bit cool-raver-dad I now realize.

And the musical aspect doesn't help much either I suppose... well at least I have an avatar now.

[kingoftheforest]

What I got out of it was, you assume you have something over your basic boxer because you know something he doesn't. Now, I'm not talking about your own fighting ability here, I don't know you from Adam.


Do you have a point here, because you seem to be making mine for me.


I've seen this in RBSD schools, and I'm sure you've seen it too, though not in the exagerated form your or maybe even I has put it. And you seem to enjoy the same exact aspects of training I do, so I hope if you have seen the paranoid "shit spouted by idiots" that I have, I hope it would leave a bad taste in your mouth as well.

Unless of course you like the taste of shit in your mouth, which I'm sure you're acustomed to due to amount of shit that comes out of it, tough guy.

You're coming around though, kiddo. You just don't know it yet.

I do have something over someone who trains solely in boxing.

I train to kick too. See more tools.

And now we see the troll.

Show me where I claim to be a tuff guy. Quote it for me.

I didn't deny that some schools spout the "paranoia shit" and I don't enjoy hearing it no. I believe I said something to that point.

There's that whole literacy thing again. You should work on that.


Yes I enjoy training, I don't do things I don't enjoy.

You enjoy putting words into other people's mouths, and then using that thought train to attempt to twist what people have said to your ideals.

It's called double talk. There used to be a guy on here that was light years better at it than you.

But he's gone now....................and I'm still here.


I didn't really care for talking to him either.



KOTF

Alpha Mary Foxtrot.

[Tokyo Kid]

I do have something over someone who trains solely in boxing.

I train to kick too. See more tools.

And now we see the troll.

Show me where I claim to be a tuff guy. Quote it for me.

OK.

I do have something over someone who trains solely in boxing.

I train to kick too. See more tools.

Sorry, this doesn't make you a better fighter.

In fact, many martial artist have come to realize there can be too many tools, and have concentrated on using the few effective ones and train harder using those. So whoever trains harder tends to be the better fighter, and in my experience, RBSD instructors don't appear to train very hard. Of course you probably know that, deep inside.

[kingoftheforest]

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OK.



Sorry, this doesn't make you a better fighter.

In fact, many martial artist have come to realize there can be too many tools, and have concentrated on using the few effective ones and train harder using those. So whoever trains harder tends to be the better fighter, and in my experience, RBSD instructors don't appear to train very hard. Of course you probably know that, deep inside.

Your gonna have to back that up with some solid evidence there chum.

That statement about less tools being better is completely opposite of anything that has been proven effective in at least the last 50 years.

I'll be happy to view any scientific facts from a credible source when you find them, that back this statement.


Even people who can't agree to what color the sky is on here, have all said the opposite of this statement you've made.

[WildWest.]

I didn't expect Tokyo Kid to respond to my post earlier.....seems he only wants to regurgitate the tired old RBSD vs sport MA debate...lets go over everything again and again!!


Original.............

[kingoftheforest]

I didn't expect Tokyo Kid to respond to my post earlier.....seems he only wants to regurgitate the tired old RBSD vs sport MA debate...lets go over everything again and again!!


Original.............

Mind if I hitch a ride outta here with you?

[Tokyo Kid]

Your gonna have to back that up with some solid evidence there chum.

That statement about less tools being better is completely opposite of anything that has been proven effective in at least the last 50 years.

I'll be happy to view any scientific facts from a credible source when you find them, that back this statement.


Even people who can't agree to what color the sky is on here, have all said the opposite of this statement you've made.

OK, we both agree the person who trains harder has an advenatage. I hope.

Now this isn't scientific truth, but take your average kenpo school with it's hundreds if not thousands of techniques, each one a series of individual moves. Some of which are very effective, but many of which are garbage made to look like a bad 70s kung fu flick in order to sell belts to suburban weekend warriors. And picture these guys, you know what they look like I'm sure you've seen them. Not pretty, is it. All that pasty white flab is enough to make you snow-blind.

Now go to a boxing gym. An old school smelly dungeon, or maybe even one of those modern shiny MMA gyms with all the foreign lettering on the shorts. Look at the fighters there. Sure, they look like d-bags with the tribal brosef tats, and the chicks look more masculine than most of the guys. But more often than not, they are training harder. Lifting weights (OMG!), cardio, and sparring (fake-fighting perhaps?). Do you really think Hector Jr. is unable to eye-gouge because his muscular physique renders him unable to Chinese cross-step?

There is a such thing as too many tools, and they exist as a marketing scheme the same reason "training for the street" does. To seperate a fool from his money.