You never know what you're up against

[kingoftheforest]

So, someone who has 'trained' at a rbsd place for a few months is as good with his hands as an accomplished boxer?

I never said that.

[kingoftheforest]

Babes. The chicks dig wrestlers.

Oh yeah lots of girls I know get off on watching oiled up guys hug each other on the ground.

NOT!!!

[kingoftheforest]

I know, why don't you tell us about some of your experiences using the "light years ahead" Super rbsd that you seem to be getting paid to promote? I'm eager to hear of how it has worked out for you.

A true keyboard martial artist he thinks that it's all about getting paid.

[kingoftheforest]

Take a person with years of experience in any of those vs someone who has 'trained' at a rbsd place for a few months. Which do you think more likely to have had significant personal experience with violent situations on the street?

The person whose actually been in a fight. Not a "match" or "tournament". Not a place with rules.

The person with more experience with violence is the person who has been in a violent situation outside of a dojo or in your case jubaji not on an internet forum.

[jubaji]

I never said that.

Well, please do clarify.

[jubaji]

Oh yeah lots of girls I know get off on watching guys grapple each other standing and on the ground.

NOT!!!

Another thing about wrestling you don't know! The list grows longer and longer...

[jubaji]

A true keyboard martial artist he thinks that it's all about getting paid.

What's "all about getting paid"? And are you against getting paid for some reason? You're all over the place with this.

[jubaji]

The person whose actually been in a fight. The person with more experience with violence is the person who has been in a violent situation outside of a dojo or some RBSD 'school.'

Right, that was my question. What do you think?

[kingoftheforest]

Right, that was my question. What do you think?
The person whose actually been in a fight. The person with more experience with violence is the person who has been in a violent situation outside of a dojo or some RBSD 'school.'

Not what I said. Goddamn you're such a little piece of shit ass licker you have to add things to what people say.

You are truly one useless piece of shit.

[Uke]

Take a person with years of experience in any of those vs someone who has 'trained' at a rbsd place for a few months. Which do you think more likely to have had significant personal experience with violent situations on the street?

The answer is a simple one:

The sport-art competitor will have more experience in getting into street altercations. That's a no brainer because a sport art competitor doesn't train for awareness or avoidance. Most situations can be avoided or at least diffused if you have a head on your shoulders, self control and have even a minimal amount of training or even exposure to matters of diplomacy. Some sport competitors have those qualities, but due to the competitive, adrenaline-driven attitudes that many sports foster, many do not.

You of course, Jubaji, have none of those qualities. That's not a jab at you asshole. Its a fact based on your own admissions.

In your tale concerning your rumble in the Denny's parking lot with the drunk guy, I believe the man produced a knife and THEN smacked you in the mouth. The truth about it is, and I've stated this before, that the guy did NOT want to use the knife for anything other than intimidation. Even if he had pulled it out after he smacked you, he clearly did not want to use it.

In your ridiculous story, the man with the knife got distracted due to watching his buddies kick the shit out of your boyfriend. It was at that point that you could have simply walked away or at least back into the bar. Instead, you saw that the man was distracted and just drunk enough for you to live out your caped crusader fantasy. So instead of running, you suplexed the drunk guy and at that very moment in your mind the belly to belly suplex instantly became "Kill Move Of Choice".

So if you really think about it, sport competitors DO in fact get into more violent situations because they are clueless, but they almost always get fucked up more often for their efforts. Tito Ortiz, Lee Murray, Vernon Forrest, Alex Gong .. those men were some of the top athletes in their sports at the time they found out how well sport training gets you prepared for the street. You have champions from MMA, boxing and muay thai on that list.

What's most important to acknowledge about that list is that if these men, who were champions at the top of sport competitive combat, could not defend or attack against a lesser trained assailant successfully, what chance do you or anyone sport competitor think you have?

Is jubaji suggesting that the Joe's are going to outperform the Pro's who couldn't get the job done?

In all fairness, its important to note one fact:

The Pro's that were killed, maimed or knocked out had NEVER trained for any kind of real violence. They had only trained to excel in their own respective sports in safe and secure environments.

Its only idiots like jubaji and others like him that seem to want to believe that one thing is the other.

This is how he can still ask simple-minded questions like the one quoted above because he must at all costs ignore facts and cling to the idea that wrestling, boxing, or kickboxing have some hidden components for which to make a sportsman instantly competent in SD during a mugging with skills he's NEVER before trained with.

I hope that answers your question, Jubidoo.


*For any new folks here, expect this asshole to single out one arbitrary sentence to comment on and the pretend the rest never was written.

[jubaji]

Not what I said.

"Take a person with years of experience in any of those vs someone who has 'trained' at a rbsd place for a few months. Which do you think more likely to have had significant personal experience with violent situations on the street?"


And your answer was...?

[jubaji]

The answer is a simple one:

The sport-art competitor will have more experience in getting into street altercations.

And in your opinion, does a person with more experience in a given context tend to fair better or worse than someone with NO experience in that same context?

[jubaji]

So if you really think about it, sport competitors DO in fact get into more violent situations, but they almost always get fucked up more often for their efforts.

I wasn't aware that a study had been conducted. Do you have a link to the scientifically compiled statistics (not just a few anecdotes)?

[jubaji]

Tito Ortiz, Lee Murray, Vernon Forrest, Alex Gong .. those men were some of the top athletes in their sports

What do you think, professor? Do you think that was the first time any of them had ever been in a scrap? Do you know what the top athletes in ANY sport know? They know that nobody wins 'em all. Or are you saying that a few months in a rbsd 'school' will guarantee that the recipient of the free T-shirt will NEVER come out on the bad side of a scrap? Does your 'school' have that in writing? Must be great for business. Be careful though, according to some if even one bearer of the free T-shirt gets the short end of the stick even one time that is "proof" that your entire rbsd philosophy and training "doesn't work," so it's a tough standard to maintain.

[GQchris]

So should I quit at my RBSD mcdojo and sign up at an MMA mcdojo?