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[Bjjexpertise@be]

I haven't check back at this post for maybe months now. I think you scared away mulan, h2h.

[Tom Yum]

Maybe a broken fingernail wouldn't faze you, but what if you're hair got out of place.

You've got a way with women....

PS - outta place hair flipped over is a good thing

[Tom Yum]

Just what are you suggesting you sick pervert?

Hey man, I was keepin it at the PG-13 level. Ya know, when a good lookin gal walks and flips her hair over.......No H2H, I wasn't referring to Sherwinc with a wig, I meant a real woman.

How dare you make a comment suggestive of something like that on a forum dedicated to Women's Self-Defense. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

This coming from the guy that made the Sensei Saki section an '18 and over area'...

[Broadsword2004]

If you bite a rapist, that's a great way to pick up a disease. And biting or kicking the nuts of the rapist won't always work, if they are high on some drug, combined with the adrenaline, as they will not feel it.

As for me, 98% of the women I have seen cannot fight for beans and would drop with a single hit. And the other 2% I have seen would fight back and have a chance of knocking a guy's block off. The main point is conditioning. I don't care what rank or martial art one does, if you don't have conditioning, it doesn't matter if you have the greatest technique in the history of your art, if you get hit hard, you will go down. 98% of most female "martial artists" out there (and like 95% of all male "martial artists" out there too it seems!!!) don't condition at all, or they dovery lousy conditioning.

You show me a woman who can squat at least 1.5 times her bodyweight for 10 repetitions, can deadlift 1.5 times her bodyweight, can do at least 50 pushups, benchpress her own bodyweight, and run for a straight 2 miles, who is also a martial artist, and I will have respect for them.

And by the way, all people these days are NOT equal, not with how society raises men and women. If you walk onto the average college campus and smash you fist into the average guy, he's gonna be like, "WTF!?!" and either hit you back or run away or just drop too. But a lot will come back at you. 98% of women on the other hand will start crying like babies upon the hit. Only women who are tough from the start, and who are often not very womanly, if you knwo what I mean, are not like this.

And don't get so much into this chi-kung stuff, if you get into a knife fight, you aren't going to have time to concentrate to turn your body rock hard; also, even if said opponent tries to push a knife through you and it doesn't go, unless they're an idiot, they'll withdraw the weapon, and slash you across the chest or face or, slam the blade up your vagina, and yank it out.

I have never, ever, ever in my entire life seen a "normal" woman (one who lives a normal life with a job, but takes martial arts) who could handle a big guy. The only women I have ever seen capable of this are women who are professional athletes, or this one streetfighter girl from my highschool.

This girl was like a real ghetto girl, I mean she looked friggin' scary, and no guy (or girl) would mess with her. She literally had scars from knife slashes to her arm from knife fights she'd been in even. No one messed with her. But then again, as I said, she wasn't too "womanly" either.

There will always be tremendous bias against women because you get so many women saying they can be equal to men in martial arts, yet so many of them have the conditioning of a turkey.

I agree 100%, if you are attacked, fight back, what have you got to lose really?? But if you are going to study martial arts, at least train right for it!!

I went to a school once and the one girl who was a black belt could barely do 10 pushups. Now how in hell would she ever survive if grabbed by an attacker??

Also, for you women who are the "women-can-be-just-as-good-as-men" types, do like a lot of weight-lifters' shirts say. Just shut up and train hard. And you'll be fine. If male detractors come forth, spar them. Grapple and wrestle them. And they will respect you.

Men respect women who are strong (physically and mentally). And if they still don't, then they are probably just thugs anyhow. Any man with the discipline to maintain a high degree of physical fitness or be well-educated or both, will respect a strong woman.

[Tom Yum]

Well its still inappripriate....

Uh huh....good choice of words

[konghan]

Adult woman majority have problem with muscle coordination, face against a train male attacker a woman will be no match. But face against a regular male, a mugger or burgler with no martial training, a well train woman will have a chance of overpowering him. But for that to happen, the woman must have the psychological mindset to fight. No matter what conditioning she has if she doesn't have that mindset to fight she'll only get overpower.

Thats why in ngo cho kun the training of sam chien which reqiures muscle tensioning, breathing, emotion with deep meditation on the form & the development of the use of whipping power is what would help train the mindset of not only woman but man too.

As I have been saying, when martial art was first develop it was meant to give the smaller person a chance survive or to over power a bigger attacker but once that edge is taken away becuase martial art is so wide spread now that many big people are also training in it, that advantage is now diminished. In such a situation that is when the use of weapons comes in to play & that include the use of guns.

[Tom Yum]

brings tears to my ey.....

No, that's the pepper spray from your future ex

[PghROSSgrl]

BTW. Have you heard about the latest military sex scandal that congress is now looking into? It seems that 100 women stationed in Iraq were raped by male US soldiers. This is what I’m trying to tell you.
The women were trained in hand to hand combat; the men were trained in hand to hand combat, but the rapes happened anyway. Also, I’d venture to guess that most of the rape victims were some pretty mean women. Why do you think that this happened?

Take care,

Mr. Niceguy

Sorry, Had to jump in here at that comment. I am a SGT in the United States Army. I am a female at that. I have had 2 years in the active component, and 6 in the reserve component. Last month I reenlisted for another 6. I tell you that to say this. I was in Air Defense on active duty, a combat arms MOS. I am a supply clerk now. I recieved 2 days of H2H training, that gave me a cumulative 4 hours at the most of H2H combat training, in basic training. We learned basic rifle marksmanship for 2 weeks, and also about a week of bayonette fighting. Never again did I see H2H combat, and that is sad, as it is the norm. Just this year, my section Sergeant Major seen me working out in the gym and began giving me pointers as I lifted and he practiced ROSS, after some months of my curiousity getting the better of me, he started teaching me ROSS, in July. That is going wonderfuly, and now he has begun teaching me Tracy's Style of Kenpo. We also work with some FMA expression in our ROSS training. He does this on his own, during our lunch break and our PT time. So, assuming that the army teaches us any H2H is an unfair and wrong assumption. Any training we got after basic was on our own. The only caviat is if you are a MALE and in a infantry or field artillery unit, amongst Rangers and the like, THEN you get alot more attention on learning to fight.

[PghROSSgrl]

I'm pretty sure that, in the military, the women train hand-to-hand with the guys. These days women are on the supply lines so they'd need the same type of training as the guys.

Mr Niceguy

Sorry, once again., we Army women dont train hand-to-hand with any guys, and half these guys don't train either, unless its on our own time. I get the same training as guys, NONE, unless I seek it from somewhere outside of the Army.

[Broadsword2004]

Yeah, the only people in the military who really train hard in hand-to-hand are the more elite troops, like Rangers, Marine Force Recon, Special Forces and various Special Operations, etc...though these days they have upped the martial arts training for the Marine Corps now I was reading.

Also, men and women in the military are trained separately in terms of combat skills like rifemanship, hand-to-hand, NBC, etc..., though they are basically trained the same (disregarding the more elite military groups I mentioned above).

In the Marine Corps now I know, you can study a Marine Corps martial arts program too (and maybe in the Army and Navy too; I don't know). Marine Corps. I believe gives the most intensive training for a basic infantryman.

[PghROSSgrl]

The Marine Corps uses LINE, last Sunday in our ROSS training my coach pulled from his knowledge of line, and we used some technique from that, to go ahead and depart from it with ROSS. I'm pretty blessed to have a trainer who also happens to me my SGM, and that he's a former Ranger and he's also county detective who really allows this to be his lifestyle. I get some awsome training 6 days a week that the Army never would have given me. He's great in so many styles of martial art, but ROSS is what he is. It would be cool if the Army taught us that [ROSS], because it is so self educating. I think that it's a perfect martial system for women because of it's freedom from the traditional codified styles, and because it is all about biomechanical efficiency. The traditional styles have their place as well, as I train in Kenpo. But they go from structure to flow, from 2 dimension to 3. I really like thier less is more approach.

[medic06]

Not really invulnerability. More like destroying every nerve on your body then suffering from this as you get older. Indeed kids can break boards or bricks over their heads but those items are specifically made for breaking.
Last week, I went camping with a friend of mine who has done TKD for 10 years. As a joke I told him to break a cinder block. We put the cinder block into position. He does the karate yell then tried to break the cinder block with a palm strike.

REALLY???? I didn't know they made boards and bricks specifically for breaking?!?!?!? And here we are going to the hardware store for all of this. Hmmm, is there a martial arts section in Home Depot????????

[Nuihc]

In my Wing Chun class size is NOT an issue, only skill.
The small people can generate enough power, to knock most people out.
And can turn your brute force against you.

[BaguaBoxer]

i'd go out on a limb and say that in a streetfight "the person that can take more battering will win." keyboard.

In some street fights this may be the case but as far as most Streetfighters are concerned taing the other guy down quick is more palletable than "working him over". Granted I will admit I have never met anyone who can take a beating and keep going like a streetfighter can

[Ironpalm]

Just for the record.

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