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  • I ran, and I'm proud of it

    This is just something that happened to me recently...I just started school, and I'm going to a new school this year. It's a lot bigger than my old one, and there are a lot more people who have definite styles. It's kind of scary.

    Anyways, my friend and I were staying after school for Spanish tutoring, and the class let out early. Our parents weren't going to be at the school for another 45 minutes at least, and we didn't have any way of calling, so we waited around outside the school, by the football field. It's in the back of the school and not very visible, and about maybe 20 yards or so from the school building. We were hanging out by the bleachers, just chatting about stuff, when this guy came up form behind me and clapped me on the shoulder. Loren and I were both very startled, but relaxed a bit after t seemed like this guy meant no harm.

    He started talking to us like we were old friends, and I started getting a bit nervous. I kept my eyes open and started slowly moving backwards towards the school and away form the bleachers, now pretty much out in the open, and my frind followed my lead. I saw two other guys coming out from under the bleachers and come up to us, and I said very firmly, "We have to go now. My mom is probably here to pick us up."

    The first guy laughed, and he just said, "No one's here. You're lying. Come with us and have some fun."

    We looked around and saw that the three of them had us almost surrounded, and again I said that we had to leave. They started closing in, still telling us to come with them and have some fun, and it became clear that they weren't going to let us go. One of them grabbed my wrist, and I promptly forgot all of the hapkido I had learned and kicked him hard in the groin. He doubled over, and my friend and I took off through the opening that he had made, yelling bloody murder. A male teacher and a security guard came out of the school, and the three guys took off, after they got the first one back on his feet.

    It scared me pretty bad, because I'd never had anything like that happen to me, and I honestly don't think I really could have defended myself very well if the sitation had escalated any further. I couldn't have used any of the holding techniques I'd learned on any of them, because there were too more people, and I couldn't even really think straight. I wasn't even really thinking enough to do any real kicks; it was just an instinctive groin shot, a basic front kick. Then we took off as fast as we could, and I would have done the same if I could do it again. I *know* I wasn't a match for three seniors, who were at least a head taller than I am, even though I'd had some training in MA's. Plus, there was my friend to worry about, who hadn't any clue as to what to do. I just hope nothing like that ever happens again, and my friend and I will wait inside the school from now on.

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    I am glad that you and your friend were able to get away. That is the reality of fighting and you make the right choice. The the front kick was instinctive. My adive would be to take this experience with you when you train and train hard!!!

    One sifu told me that when you fight have fun....not meaning to enjoy constant fighting but to relax becuase fear is not productive. I know is was a rightening experience but you survived unharmed and that is ultimately what is important!!!!

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    • #3
      I'm not an expert on womens self defence, or any self defence for that matter, but I'm glad you and your friend got out of there without any trouble.

      It sounded like you did manage to assess the situation and get yourself in a position where you could run, and thats the most important thing. Also a groin shot can be as effective as any wrist or joint lock you learn in any martial arts school! Simple and direct!

      Do you know who these guys are? How old are they? I do hope they get in trouble for it.

      It may be a bit too early to ask this question, but has the incident made you re-evaluate your thinking when it comes to self defence and the martial arts in general?

      I'm glad you're still with us and that you've taken time to share this story.

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      • #4
        glad to know you came out of that safely.

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        • #5
          thank goodness you ok, good job on keeping a firm voice and being aware, also on kicking that bastard in his nuts

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          • #6
            Thanx everyone for the replies, and support...swan, I had seen one of them around before, but I didn't know who they were. They did get in trouble, though one of them didn't go to my school. The two who did, got suspended, though they didn't actually do anything other than invade personal space so it wasn't for very long.

            As for the whole rethinking MS thing....I'm not sure quite what you meant but I'll try to answer it as best I can.

            I knew all along that my art (mixed TKD and hapkido) wasn't really good for a lot, because the TKD is a lot of sport, and I haven't been practicing the Hapkido long enough for any of it to become instinctive. But I guess subconsciously, I felt that since I took a MA, I could defend myself a lot better than other people could. But now I realize that it doesn't really change my chances much, because though it does give me some good solid techniques, they aren't instinctive yet, (i.e., a side kick to the knee, which is one of our escape techniques, or a roundhouse to the side). Also, I do panic, same as any other person, MA's or no. Some of the other classes and seminars I've been to helped me remember what to do, such as keep a firm voice and take the first chance for escape. I do think I reacted a lot better than my friend, who was frozen and had no idea what she could do.

            I think taking a MA gave me some confidence, not that I could beat them, but that I at least knew what I was supposed to do, and knew how to assess the situation. My friend had never been to any seminars or classes, and she probably would have let herself be forced to go with them, had she been by herself.

            I'm not really sure if I worded that right, but I hope you can make sense of some if it! Also, in my classes, I have asked the instructor to focus on a lot of 'utility kicks', such as powerful front snap kicks and low side/roundhouse, for if I ever want to take someone down and keep them down (for injuring/breaking the knee0. I've been drilling in them a lot in classes, and have been practicing a lot at home. It's actually improved my focus a lot.

            Any advice from anyone on what else I could start doing? Basically all I've got so far are front kick, and low roundhouse....any ideas for anything that would actually work against an opponent?

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            • #7
              Combatives. Designed to be simple but deadly.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by hikickinchick


                I'm not really sure if I worded that right, but I hope you can make sense of some if it! Also, in my classes, I have asked the instructor to focus on a lot of 'utility kicks', such as powerful front snap kicks and low side/roundhouse, for if I ever want to take someone down and keep them down (for injuring/breaking the knee0. I've been drilling in them a lot in classes, and have been practicing a lot at home. It's actually improved my focus a lot.

                Any advice from anyone on what else I could start doing? Basically all I've got so far are front kick, and low roundhouse....any ideas for anything that would actually work against an opponent?
                Your reply does make complete sense. Unless you've been training for years, it is difficult to pull off anything complex or fancy.

                In the meantime, I'll have a think about what else you could start doing.

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                • #9
                  [QUOTE}Any advice from anyone on what else I could start doing? Basically all I've got so far are front kick, and low roundhouse....any ideas for anything that would actually work against an opponent? [/B][/QUOTE]

                  You did right... MA is only a conduit for your defense, just studying the combos does not a good fighter make.

                  when in such a situation it reveals to you that all the training you do, all the things you know and can try and need to do and should do and and then you get overwhelmed and freeze...

                  everyone does it...

                  you proved to yourself that in such a situation you were present enough to get out of the situation, its too easy to go "this ain't happening" and then its too late...

                  the only tip one can provide is not based on what to do, but on what not to do...

                  it's called zazen, where you have total awareness of what is going on around you, all sounds, sites and feelings.. but at the same time you have a totally empty mind, not so you are day dreaming, you need to provide adequate response to your stimuli...

                  essentially this is a way to control your fear and allow you to respond to a situation correctly... keeping the mind empty (not thinging about what to do next if he does this and you do that) and awareness of what is happening means that when the jock grabs you, you know that you need to stop him and you respond in the simplest and quickest way... it doesn't have to be good, or perfect or even 'right' it just has to be, do what you do, then do what you do next... act now and think later.

                  I think kung fu is good in this respect as part of the training is 'sticky hands' which gets you used to actually responding to an attack without necessarily 'seeing' it and without it actually being one...

                  anyway, enough...
                  well done and glad you are safe, your training has served you well (even though you feel it hasn't)... reward yourself with some more training

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                  • #10
                    lets see, something that works on an opponent.....well in my school, the grade 9 girls do self-defence, they learn something called "grab, twist, pull" in which u grab, twist, then pull the attackers....ummm....testicles, sounds very painful. low, powerful kicks to the knees also work. it really dosnt matter what you do, its not conciderd "dirty fighting" if its a situation like yours, hit him in the eyes, hit him in the throat, eye gouge him!

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                    • #11
                      Running

                      There is absolutely nothing wrong with running away so you should feel proud. Its like someone calling you a chicken becausr you won't do something stupid like jump in a pool of acid or off a cliff you would, well any sane person would say yeah ok im a chicken you got me.
                      Usually 9/10 our amrtial arts skills go straight out the window and we forget what to do so we remember the basics eyes, ears groin, dont forget biting can be very good because human jaws are strong in biting.

                      So you done good

                      Emma,

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                      • #12
                        Greyfox, that sounds....painful....and we have been working more in our advanced classes on things like groin, knee, eye, and face strikes, and in the hapkido we've been kind of leaving the fancy stuff for later and working on a single, direct, easy move like breaking the elbow or spraining the wrist just by a direct strike or a quick twist, and practicing them over and over again. It's become a bit more ingrained, though I still don't think I could do it if a real threatening situation were to occur. Littledemon, you're right, ad the biting is something that you could do in a real situation. Thanks all for the replies!

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                        • #13
                          Ever broken an elbow?

                          It would seem that you may be falling prey to certain fallacies in the martial arts.

                          Yeah, I've seen techniques that can break the elbow, experienced an Hapkido aficionado cranking down on said elbow. Have pictures to prove it.

                          However, do you feel that you can go through with it if/when the time comes?

                          I'm not picking on you, this is a valid concern.

                          Regards,

                          Spanky

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                          • #14
                            In all actuality, I'm not sure...I think I might be able to actually injure someone, if I was in real danger and it was just reflex, but I don't think I could if I had time to think about it. I would probably hesitate, or something...I haven't really ever been in a situation worse than the one named above, so I don't know for sure. I'd like to think that I would be able to, but I would in all truth probably just go for a peel off/throw and run.

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                            • #15
                              You should be proud of your self you got through a very tough situation without getting seriously hurt. Now something’s to consider preparing your self incases this ever happens again in life. The majority of Men run faster then the Majority of women (ask any coach). So if you are to chose the strategy of running it might be a good idea to take an advantage before you do (such as a kick in the groin), the bad part is I have seen people take a good groin shot and keep fighting, or in this case get up chase you down and now you have to fight more tired then you were before and you have lost the element of surprise. Another way to start off the fight would be to step on his foot and give a good shove, as long as you are still standing on his foot you will hear his ankle snap as he hits the ground. This will greatly hinder his ability to run after you, and to fight. Other than that tip, just visualize. See your self getting attacked and how you would respond “AND WIN THE FIGHT” whether that’s running away or sending him to a higher authority. Last suggestion treat fear like a friend, get comfortable with that felling, its your body telling you its ready, it makes you stronger faster and more pain tolerant (all things I want working for me) there are plenty of books on it such as “The Gift of Fear” by Gavin De Becker. And again good job, I think the statistic is 5 out of 6 women how fight back wins.

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