Why not Kung Fu

[jubaji]

otaku

You cant stand to see anyone discuss anything that doesnt include your martial heroes. Sponge Bob Square Pants and She-Ra. -

It sure seems like you know an awful lot about the cartoons there junior.

[WonderingTaoist]

It sure seems like you know an awful lot about the cartoons there junior.

I found it helps to be able to communicate on someones level...Look how many fine discussions I have with you! Surely you are the most loved and respected member of this forum.
Putz.

[jubaji]

I found it helps to be able to communicate on someones level...

Oh, you are on a level all your own...

[WonderingTaoist]

Oh, you are on a level all your own...

Nah not really, numbnutz. It just seems like it to you from way down there in the cheap seats.

[jubaji]

It just seems like it to you from way down there in the cheap seats.

Aren't the cheap seats usually "up" there?

[UnfairFighting]

Aren't the cheap seats usually "up" there?

how about Tae Kwon Do?

you know, i really love Tae Kwon Do, even your Kung Fu and Muay Thai Boxing cannot beat Tea Kwon Do

[WonderingTaoist]

Aren't the cheap seats usually "up" there?

You have been very easy to predict. Leave you a cheap shot and presto! Instant one-liners.

No kidding about the location of the cheap seats. Its been fun distracting you while the adults talked elsewhere. Bye, a**hole!

[jubaji]

desperate gambit by the whipped dog

Its been fun distracting you while the adults talked elsewhere. Bye

Sure, that's what you've been doing.

You want to give up, just give up. Don't make a big production out of it.

[47MartialMan]

My, I came to this forum to be entertained....but...............

[Tom Yum]

you know, i really love Tae Kwon Do, even your Kung Fu and Muay Thai Boxing cannot beat Tea Kwon Do

Of course.

Nothing can beat TEA kwon do, especially from a well trained barrista.

[osopardo]

Surely you are the most loved and respected member of this forum.

He is.

Second most, actually...



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[kung-fwho?]

I agree Bagua Boxer

Anyways, back to the original conversation....why doesn't MMA give due respect to the various kung-fu styles? Lot's of reasons including: (1) All MMA events are run by BJJ types (2) And the truly effective (by effective I mean lethal) martial artists don't train to fight in cages with rules, they train to win in real life...not pay per view productions.

[Tom Yum]

(2) And the truly effective (by effective I mean lethal) martial artists don't train to fight in cages with rules, they train to win in real life...not pay per view productions.

The traditional martial art systems train at perfecting technique with some conditioning. They practice moves 10,000 times to where it is lightning quick and efficient, however these moves cannot be practiced in application against resisting, fighting opponents and usually involve some level of cooperation.

Could they work? Probably.

MMA styles drill technique and conditioning is a must, but allmost immediately you are working against a real, non-stationary opponent eventually to the point where your opponent is punching, kicking, kneeing, sweeping, throwing and choking you as you are against them.

You don't want to severely injure your training partner, but the moves are real and you work under real fight pressure with some unpredictability. If your training partner gets rocked (or you do) when you up the intensity, you know its real. You know where you stand.

If you can land a hook for example while sparring with your classmates, chances are really good that you could land an inside-knife hand strike to the neck too with as much force.

If you can set up and land a jab consistantly, a thrusting finger strike isn't that far away.

[kung-fwho?]

I'll take that

The traditional martial art systems train at perfecting technique with some conditioning. They practice moves 10,000 times to where it is lightning quick and efficient, however these moves cannot be practiced in application against resisting, fighting opponents and usually involve some level of cooperation.

Could they work? Probably.

MMA styles drill technique and conditioning is a must, but allmost immediately you are working against a real, non-stationary opponent eventually to the point where your opponent is punching, kicking, kneeing, sweeping, throwing and choking you as you are against them.

You don't want to severely injure your training partner, but the moves are real and you work under real fight pressure with some unpredictability. If your training partner gets rocked (or you do) when you up the intensity, you know its real. You know where you stand.

If you can land a hook for example while sparring with your classmates, chances are really good that you could land an inside-knife hand strike to the neck too with as much force.

If you can set up and land a jab consistantly, a thrusting finger strike isn't that far away.

I'll take the "probably" because you were kind enough to say "usually" in the sentence preceding, indicating (hopefully) that you realise not all kung fu practitioners are the same. Not all kung-fu is forms and cooperative partners, just as all Thai boxing is not tree kicking and elbows.

Once again, all we need is mutual open mindedness. Please don't close the door to kung-fu as no art is perfect and no one person knows everything. Plus we've all heard it before...there's always someone better than you.


....also, you show me a MMA practitioner that has done one movement 10,000 times and i'll guarantee you that he looks like a kung-fu guy by the end of it all....because simply put, kung-fu = time and skill

[Ironpalm]

Okay, you win the title of kung-fu spokesman. Very nice post.