Mixed Martial Bullshitters

[m7777c]

what about ground n pound ??? MMA is not ruled by muay thai or bjj or boxing, or anything like tkd. It is ruled by position fighters with hard ****** heads ,great submission defense, great takedowns, good ground n pound, and good standing clinch skills.. It's all about timing and positioning.
Sure you can be a good kickboxer, but yes even in streetfights you will go to the ground and one day the guy you are fighting will be a wrestler who can strike and then guess what??? You're going to be hurting the next day.

[choylifutrocks]

Originally posted by S.Anucha
I am 27, 69kilo and 178cm tall

With a build like that I'd be a little more worried about the grappler than you seem to be, twig

Just messin' man. I checked out the pick of you "kicking", as the author so brilliantly stated, and definately don't have chicken legs. I see more turkey in them. j/k

I see where you're coming from, a lot of people do open their big mouths about stuff the probably don't know anything about. They probably have never fought in their lives either. However, it's all in good fun. I personally love to hear (read) the moronic remarks people make. It makes me feel better about myself I realize, that I am better off than 99.5% of the world and it gives me ample opportunity to make them feel stupid.

You seem to be an intelligent guy (I may be mislead) so you should take advantage of the idiots that come in and mouth off rather than letting it ruin your day.

Look at the bright side

P.S. Good luck with your MT career! If you can get some fight clips and pics, I know everyone would like to view, critique, compliment, and support you.

[HuSanYan]

Originally posted by choylifutrocks
It makes me feel better about myself, I realize, that I am better off than 99.5% of the world and it gives me ample opportunity to make them feel stupid.
Look at the bright side

Hey choylifut my man, hope you are well
Now, about the above, let me (for a cheap rate$$) offer you a bit of help initially with a free diagnosis.
you have a Bipolar Type 2 condition, consult a therapist and you should be fine my good man.
take good care of yourself and make an application to NASA as i understand they can use good men such as youself....

[choylifutrocks]

Originally posted by HuSanYan
Hey choylifut my man, hope you are well
Now, about the above, let me (for a cheap rate$$) offer you a bit of help initially with a free diagnosis.
you have a Bipolar Type 2 condition, consult a therapist and you should be fine my good man.
take good care of yourself and make an application to NASA as i understand they can use good men such as youself....

LOL!

Bipolar, nah. Need a therapist, probably. NASA, no way! I'm not into the hollywood scene. Plus I'm not a good actor.

I have been thinking about persuing a career in politics though

[S.Anucha]

choylifutrocks, I'll admit I am a wirey feck, but dude I feel strong and look heavier than I actually weigh, why is that?

I have a fight this Saturday, I have sorta been keeping it to myself, i mentioned ages ago but thought it better to just keep it to myself. It's my 4th fight, well 3rd Muay Thai fight as my first was a full contact Kickboxing fight. I am a tad bit nervous, not like I have been before but you know what I mean, those strange thoughts that start with images of the fight then the mind wanders into "what if" scenarious and before you friggen know it you are totally consumed by the thought of the fight! hahah.... I fucking love it!

But seriously I have been training very hard, I will fight at 70kg as the first fighter they had for me got injured so now I am fighting some other bloke, he has had one fight this will be his second... hmm... I am kinda expecting him to fight like a deranged animal so I aint gonna take any chances. the good thing about fighting a few kilos heavier is I dont need to stop eating fry's pepermint creme's!!!!

Anyway how the hell do I take a VHS video and put it onto CD or whatever so i can mpeg my fight clip? anyone know?

seriously though, I have realised its useless arguing about such things like art vs art and what not, I dont care anymore and its doing wonders for my stress free internet moments, I know what I need to know and thats enough, really it is enough! i will let other people write shite and as you said just read for amusement.... a fight after all is all mind games and winning has a lot to do about heart.

[choylifutrocks]

Originally posted by S.Anucha
choylifutrocks, I'll admit I am a wirey feck, but dude I feel strong and look heavier than I actually weigh, why is that?

But seriously I have been training very hard, I will fight at 70kg as the first fighter they had for me got injured so now I am fighting some other bloke, he has had one fight this will be his second... hmm... I am kinda expecting him to fight like a deranged animal so I aint gonna take any chances.

Anyway how the hell do I take a VHS video and put it onto CD or whatever so i can mpeg my fight clip? anyone know?

seriously though, I have realised its useless arguing about such things like art vs art and what not

I've met a few guys like you they look big but don't weigh much. I guess it's just because you've got a low bodyfat percentage. It always makes people look bigger and ripped, while keeping their weight down. That's a good thing dude. As long as you're strong, that's all that really matters. I personally am like 200lbs (90 Kilos I think), and I look pretty decent sized, but I'm all show. My ten year old sister can still beat me in arm wrestling J/K I don't have a ten year old sis. But if I did, she'd probably beat me.

Good luck on your next fight. Those guys that fight like deranged animals can be tricky. LOL, I think you'll rip him a new hole though. Good luck.

To burn VHS to computer would cost you a few bucks. You'd have to get some new hardware for your computer. I don't use the hardware, but I'd assume you could use a TV tuner card or something like that to get the video off the VHS onto your computer.

I'm glad you have seen the light and will just capitalize from the forum morons from now on. I would recommend anybody with an IQ over 100 to do so-- 100+ is limited around here. You'd swear these people came out of the Congo (where the average IQ is like 60. 10 pts. below retarded....hehee).

[kid_chocolate]

re

I feel strong and look heavier than I actually weigh, why is that?

You have featherweight bird-bones. They will shatter at the slightest impact in your next fight.

(Joking)

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S.Anucha

"when they do go to the ground it is because of lack of fighting ability and bad balance and no control, what happens when you know how to stand and grapple and fight? then the ground will be a strange far away place that you'd be better off never visiting! "

Mate this may be true in the ring but if you think your not going to the floor when fighting on the street then your in a fantasy world.

Just because anybody is good at thaiboxing it doesn't mean your ring techniques will work outside where we aren't controlled by rules & regulations, shit happens & most of the time it's on the floor & this isn't always from lack of skill.

Mike (retired thaiboxer)

p.s. dont take offence from reality

[S.Anucha]

"...Mate this may be true in the ring but if you think your not going to the floor when fighting on the street then your in a fantasy world..."

Haha, man my fantasy world is pretty real. Fact is, you put any man in front of me with little fight excperience and I'll hammer him! simple, I couldnt give a shit if he is a black belt in origami, if he hasnt fought before I'll have him.

No, I disagree, if you can have good control while standing then you wont always go to the ground..... what makes you think all fights go there? I dont, I have the bloody facial scars to prove they dont always go there unless I take em there and thats usually to smash his head of the ground, man you're getting me all fired up again.

4 ring fights aint really nothing.... I just started fighting there cos its safer! all my fights, the ones that went to the ground, I took them there. I aint any push over mate, believe it, any man who plans to go with me and has no experience sure as hell better be prepared cos I will go through him like a truck through a shit wall, BJJ, Muay Thai, it doesnt matter and personally i couldnt care what he knows, the guy had either knock me out first time or I will try to go through him, litterally, and i will use any means necessary

I think you understand where I am coming fom

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Jesus.....i hope you fight quicker than you reply

No probs mate we all have our own views

[MuayThaiFighter]

Nice to be back here.Hope everyone had a good christmas and new years.


I've seen some good points in here that I agree with.


I agree a 100% that MuayThai on its own in something like UFC would do really crappy. As I 've always said and still will say is that I think MuayThai is the best for STAND UP,but put a MuayThai fighter against someone that knows both what he knows plus grappling and the MuayThai fighter will lose.

However on the street against someone with no fighting experience all it will take is MuayThai to destroy opponent since the average person that loses a fight loses on the ground not knowing how to defend himself on his back however if you put a MuayThai fighter against someone well trained in MMA such as stand up with grappling then it is only obvious to conclude the MuayThai fighter will lose just as any single artist would.In my opinion all arts will do crappy on street without knowing both the grappling and stand up.It's easy to say I know so and so art so I'll never go to the ground but in reality it is a different story the best stand up fighter can be taken to ground,then what if he can't defend himself on ground? If you can't defend yourself on the ground and unable to get back on your feet you are screwed as simple as that.I've heard people in this forum that say it is untrue that most fights go to the ground but the fact is they do. I've been in plenty of fights that started with us on our feet and then us wrestling on ground and pounding each other on the face and trying to get back up. In fights chances are it is going to be bloody whether a little bit or alot.

An art like karate and kung fu or tkd would obviously lose on street for a few reasons (even against someone with no fighting experience)

1/ usually taught mostly forms
2/sparring usually done lightly and for points with punches pulled
3/taught too many rediculous stances
4/lack in self-defense and street-defense
5/ taught mostly for tournaments

A muay thai has a better chance of winning a street fight over any other single art but is not the best against a mixed art of MuayThai and Grappling.

[choylifutrocks]

Happy Christmas and New Year to you a well.

MTF, on the rare occasion, I am going to agree 100% with what you said. Like I've always said, it's not what you think, but how you present it that is offensive. This time around, you presneted your material in a way that I find very appealing. Was that a New Years resolution of yours? LOL. j/k. If you can keep that up, I find it very possible that you may have some good posts on the way.

You are right...anyone who learns mosty forms, does only point sparring with hit and retract b/s, and learns to fight in a ridiculous stance will be in a bad situation. I guess it's a good thing that my CLF Kung Fu class, doesn't teach mosty forms, that we have full contact sparring, and we don't fight in ridiculous stances. It's funny, a lot of times girls will have to spar against guys, and the instructors won't let the guys go too easy on the girls. They say, make them fight their way free. I think that is awesome for the girls, since they need it the most.

Personally, i will agree with you that MT is pretty much the best stand up art there is, but I think San Shou is pretty much equal, and a CLF background on a San Shou fighter, being borderline superior. That would be the area, where we may not agree. However, I'm curious....do u find San Shou to be an effective m. art? I know it is, but I"m just curious to see if you're going to bash it just b/c it's Kung Fu.

[MuayThaiFighter]

Happy Christmas and New Year to you a well.

MTF, on the rare occasion, I am going to agree 100% with what you said. Like I've always said, it's not what you think, but how you present it that is offensive. This time around, you presneted your material in a way that I find very appealing. Was that a New Years resolution of yours? LOL. j/k. If you can keep that up, I find it very possible that you may have some good posts on the way.

You are right...anyone who learns mosty forms, does only point sparring with hit and retract b/s, and learns to fight in a ridiculous stance will be in a bad situation. I guess it's a good thing that my CLF Kung Fu class, doesn't teach mosty forms, that we have full contact sparring, and we don't fight in ridiculous stances. It's funny, a lot of times girls will have to spar against guys, and the instructors won't let the guys go too easy on the girls. They say, make them fight their way free. I think that is awesome for the girls, since they need it the most.

Personally, i will agree with you that MT is pretty much the best stand up art there is, but I think San Shou is pretty much equal, and a CLF background on a San Shou fighter, being borderline superior. That would be the area, where we may not agree. However, I'm curious....do u find San Shou to be an effective m. art? I know it is, but I"m just curious to see if you're going to bash it just b/c it's Kung Fu.

The way I explained things right now is no different from last year it is just about how one wants to take in what say,many people misunderstand what I am trying to say.

To be honest with you I don't know anything about San Shou never heard of it until I started coming to these forums. However from the pictures I have seen of San Shou it looks the same as Muay Thai but it's just pictures.If San Shou is the same as MuayThai then obviously I won't find it to be useless but if it is like your typical style of kung fu(like shoalin,tiger claw,monkey,drunken monkey,snake,preying mantis) that does forms then yes I would say it too is useless,but I've never seen any demonstrations on San Shou so I can't give an exact answer.

[Uncle Corny]

unless you've been in a real fight, you'll never know what hit you upon your introduction one dark night, when you're not on your guard.

[Broadsword2004]

Karate can be very lethal on the street, and grappling is a part of karate. That is baloney that karate is strictly stand-up, that is just because of movies and commercialization. And good karate schools teach full-contact. A karate fighter who trains as hard as a Thai fighter, with some boxing thrown in, I think is just as lethal as a Thai fighter (except for maybe that Thai roundkick!). But I'd prefer to do what this one guy did, he combines TKD and Muay Thai, so he does both. Good karate on a strong person is very effective if they train hard, but incorporate some boxing and like the Thai roundkick as well, and you have a very good striker.

One thing also, remember against some dumbo street thug, a trained martial artist, even if all they know is striking (kicks, punches, strikes, etc....) chances are they are far stronger and more agile than said thug. So if they go to the ground, I think the thug will lose. But also if they are strong, it might be hard for the thug to take them down.

A good karate or TKD or Thai person, even with no grappling training, I think should be like how Rambo is to that mean cop in First Blood, where the cop grabs him and then is like, "Damn this boy is hard to get a hold of!"