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  • #31
    XMA? What is this crap?

    You answered your own question.

    mj

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    • #32
      Originally posted by HandtoHand
      I think GrdStorm was asking a rehotorical question. Because most of us know that it is crap.

      Yes I know, as I've replied on the first page of this thread.

      MJ

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      • #33
        i just like it cuz they showed the physilogy behind the movements...i thought that was kew...adn what they were talking about when they were doing that weapons....seemed kew...i don't think all that kata's he was doing would do jack shit for u though in a real fight....but what ever makes ur ballz itch i guess
        that guy who started xma had this to say




        ยท With more and more emphasis being placed on gymnastics, dance and high-flying moves which would NEVER work "on the street" has the introduction of "Sport Karate" hurt traditional martial arts?
        Absolutely! When martial artists began competing in tournaments, the art became sport and the purpose for which the training was based began to change. Although the look and feel of the martial arts in tournament competition has changed over the years, what I believe has hurt the martial arts is not the transition to the Xtreme or the evolution of the "Sport" aspect but more so the lack of education in the general public. Up until now, the martial arts has been revered as either mystical, unexplained artforms or deadly fighting arts. Enough with the secrets of this style and that master. Part of the history and future of the martial arts is the passing of knowledge down to the next generation which means every martial artist must become teachers at some point. With a nationwide average of 20% drop out rate in martial arts students in their first month, we don't even begin to have a chance to impact these people's lives in a positive manner. If we can continue to inspire and motivate students with XMA, tournaments, "flash" and hong kong style films, we have a better chance at keeping students long term. All instructors know that we need students to stay long term in order to really begin to understand and appreciate the history and roots of every style and truly embrace martial arts into their lives. Forget about the moves, the flips, the impracticality of what you see on tv. Master Fumio Demura said that he envied students like Matt and Craig. He realized they were so inspired bby XMA that they train 10 times harder than his own traditional students. Athletes lift weights, run, do plyometrics as forms of cross-training. View XMA as a method off cross training to supplement and enhance any traditional base style - definitely not to detractt or replace it!

        a lil bit more info on this guy sounds like a cool guy though to me

        Michael Chaturantabut

        Bringing with him a new found energy, charisma, and sense of style, โ€œMike Chatโ€ is taking the world by storm! Straight out of the jungles of Southern Thailand, he is one of the most prolific and versatile Gen-Xerโ€™s today! Representing the new wave โ€œKung-Fuโ€, with over 18 years of martial arts experience, he has acquired national and international acclaim for his innovative martial arts skills and performances!

        Combining traditional Okinawan Shorei-Ryu, Tae Kwon Do, Chinese Wushu, Kickboxing, dance, ballet, and acrobatics, Chat was inducted into the World Martial Arts Hall of Fame in 1992, and has captured over 50 National and International Forms and Weapons Championships! He is a 4-Time World Forms & Weapons Champion, and 5-Time North American Forms & Weapons Champion.

        Mike Chatโ€™s popularity overseas exploded after winning two gold medals at the 1995 W.A.K.O. World Championships in Stuttgart, Germany, and an additional Gold medal at the 1995 I.S.K.A. World Championships. This led to several covers of Europeโ€™s top martial arts magazines, Top Fighter, Karate Infight, Kick Illustrierter Kamptsport, Karate Bushido, and two additional gold medals at the 1996 I.S.K.A. World Championships in forms and weapons. With crowds of 15,000 packing the house to catch a glimpse of Chat at the Budo Show โ€˜95 in Montreal, Canada, and the renowned Budo Gala โ€˜95: Next Generation in Dortmund and Munich, he returned to sell out performances in 1997. Stunning crowds at the FIBO Expo, and the Budo Gala โ€™97: Spirit of Budo, Mike Chat captured the Forms and Weapons Championship at the 1997 Budo Open International in Essen, Germany, and was immediately picked by Sattva Music to shoot the cover of their โ€œSpirit of Budoโ€ CD. Michael debuted in Paris, at Bercy, for the Salon de Arts Martiaux et Sports de Combat โ€˜97 where he dazzled 25,000 spectators with his super-intense, high flying, acrobatic-martial arts routines. In the spring of 1998, he returned to perform for EURO-SPORT TV with the renown Shaolin Monks at the Palais de Sports at Bercy with his top ranked competition team, Team Chat International.

        These talents along with his on-screen magnetism landed him a starring role in Foxโ€™s #1 hit TV show โ€œWMAC MASTERSโ€, (m.artist here....i watched that show!!!,,,when i was lil though)where he debuted his own character creation, Wizard. Mike Chat has gone on to win the Overall Forms & Weapons Grand Champion Title at the Arnold Schwarzeneggar Classic, and is featured on ESPN2, EURO-SPORT, Action Pay-Per-Viewโ€™s โ€œFight Zoneโ€, and The Dave Matthewโ€™s Band music video, โ€œSatellite.โ€ In 1997, he starred in a Del Taco and National Sprite commercial and can be seen in Cirrusโ€™s new music video โ€œBack On A Missionโ€. 1998 brought appearances on CBSโ€™s action series Martial Law and the Mortal Kombat Conquest television series. In 1999, Michael was part of HBO/Showtimeโ€™s fall print campaign, starred in two National Lamisil commercials, and his popular Del Taco โ€œKickโ€ commercial which re-aired for a second 21-month cycle. 2001 brought a co-starring role on CBSโ€™s Nash Bridges and he just finished starring as Chad Lee the new Blue Power Ranger on Foxโ€™s #1 hit show, Power Rangers Lightspeed Rescue! After shooting 5 commercials in the Spring โ€“ National McDonaldโ€™s, IBM, MCI 1-800 COLLECT, Cisco Systems, and Fosterโ€™s Beer. He finished off the year working with the creator of the Mortal Kombat video games in developing characters for Fighter X, a new game for Microsoftโ€™s X BOX, and a International GE Global and National Network Heinz Ketchup commercial.

        Mike Chat exploded into 2002 landing featured roles in the Spielberg/Dreamworks project, The Time Machine, Universalโ€™s Big Fat Liar, the new Austin Powers 3 Goldmember film, two Honda Civic and Honda Civic Hybrid, a National Power Ade, Direct TV and Latin America Rexona commercial. As sole creator of his next project, Chat is currently in the process of launching his new Mike Chatโ€™s XMA (Extreme Martial Arts) training program with complete line of merchandise through Century Martial Arts Supply (the largest martial arts company in the world) and their new MAIA โ€“ Martial Arts Industry Association.

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        • #34
          I want a ma documentary about vale tudo and mma and muay thai sanshou and all those type of arts instead of traditional karate(instead of traditional karate why not kyoukushin and its offshoots?) and kung fu.( why not sanda instead of traditional kung fu?)

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          • #35
            Originally posted by HandtoHand
            I suppose it isnt all their fault because crap is made out to be good but still many times people have to be told.
            I would think one of the best ways to "convince" them to rethink their methods (if they believe their art really WORKS) is to invite them to an open mat somewhere, whether it be your school or another's.

            Then, just put on some 8oz. gloves, mouthpiece, yer junk protection, maybe even some light pads in case you don't want to go too all out, then just tell him/her "alright, anything goes" and just have at it for a bit. Probably talk them through what is happening, like if you clinch them and they can't do anything, or if you take them down and they obviously are like a fish out of water. Don't just WAIL on them as this will just turn them off to your style, but slowly expose gaps in their fighting game.

            Even though this will probably not even convince them, much less all of the people out there clueless to MMA, it will give that person something to think about later on.

            Best regards,

            Seifer2399

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            • #36
              u guys need to read the other post i did about this.....it's not about aplication...but about having fun...who here objects to having fun?

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              • #37
                WOW!!! He was the Blue Power Ranger...that certainly says it all. He definitely has my respect! LOL!

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                • #38
                  in third grade i was like the biggest power ranger fan there was...remember the good ol days when they were new and original and the bad guys voiced didn't match the lips and they never even hit the "putty patrol"*sighs*...good ol days

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                  • #39
                    i enjoyed what u wrote and laughed and everything....but seriously.....what did it have to do with the original topic? lol

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                    • #40
                      hahahaha more good stuff lol...poor kid though...lol..thx my friend made the sig....i made a linkin park one...but it wasn't near as good as this one lol

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                      • #41
                        XMA==Crap. You got it right. I only saw one episode, but I was disgusted. When I saw the guy attempting to move his 100 lb. punching bag, w/ weak ass kicks I got sick. When I saw him "spar" with the other multiple time "world champ" I threw up (not literally ). I mean, he moved a distance of about five feet, with his foot two feet above his opponents head level, while doing extremely weak kicks repeatedly. At that point, I said, "Where's the controller, I think the Simpsons are on." The simpsons are great! Anyway, XMA is a horrible display of Martial Arts, and will allow more McDojos (owned by fat slobs in porsches), to open up and capitalize off of some poor young Power Ranger fan. This makes people believe that some of those stupid ass moves will work.

                        Aside from further soiling the term martial arts, XMA did have an entertaining aspect to it. I read someones post earlier and that person mentioned mullets. DAMN!!! There were like 75% of the guys there w/ huge mullets. It was ridiculous. I've never seen so many trailer park trash in one place at one time, excluding a Clinton Family reunion. The other entertaining thing was those stupid kicks that have no chance of working on the street, or in the ring. They actually are fun to look at. I would be embarasse to do that in front of millions of people. In that situation, you know there are a big number of people laughing, and wishing they could challenge you to a televised fight.

                        In short XMA was horrible for martial arts, but good for a laugh. I think it belongs on Comedy Central, rather than the Discovery Channel.

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                        • #42
                          read my post on it b4 u run ur mouth my friend...i explained everything

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                          • #43
                            I didn't mean to imply that you were misled to believe that that flashy stuff is all wonderful 'cuz u watch power rangers. I read the part that you said you were in third grade (or whatever) at the time, and you made it clear that you know the difference between power ranger MAs and what is applicable in a real life situation. I wasn't trying to bash what you said, but to use the power ranger kid that believes in that stuff as an example.

                            You are also right that it is all in fun and there is nothing wrong with having fun. However, the thread is "XMA, what is this crap?" So, obviously, the author of the thread is disgusted at the fact that this XMA is making Martial Artists look like a bunch of acrobats in a circus. From that premise, it is easy to find XMA to be a bunch of BS.

                            I didn't go off an personally attack you, so don't get all bent out of shape. IF you just can't help it, buy a tampon Just kiddin'.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by handtohand
                              ... The problem is that htey are being promoted as deadly
                              Exactly the words I was looking for.

                              Glad to be amusing...the only problem is that now, as an amusing martial artist, I feel as if I belong in a circus or on XMA

                              BTW, I like your SIG. LOL. I think that is the best war statement I've ever heard. I'm getting damn sick of those anti-war hippies, who do nothing but promote ridiculous consipiracy and let the minority rule the majority. If I made an XMA episode, I would hire a bunch off MMA's to pick themselves out a few hippies at a time off of a San Francisco street, and then pound the shit out of 'em the right way...the way that doesn't look to interesting, but works. Just imagine..."this week on XMA, a bunch of poor hippies are thrown in a room with Wanderlei Silva, Tito Ortiz, Mirko Crocop, and the Gracie Family." I think that would be a good one Maybe we can convince some ppl to put up some cash...who knows?

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                              • #45
                                My typo...I didn't press the quote button, I just added the quote myself...u spelled right.. BTW, I think u've got some good matches there!

                                I actually wouldl like to see a match between Dean and Bush for the presidency. Politics arent' working, so let's take it back to the stone age I hear old man bush is benching like 225...lol, that's good for an old president. (Bush Jr.)

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