If god is the most powerful being possible, not restricted in any way and not bound by laws of logic or cause and effect.
He could decide to create a universe... without ever existing in the first place.
The universe is so complex and amazing because it was designed (by aforementioned ultimate being).
However god does not, never did and never will exist.
Now thats impressive. And I dont want no theists telling me that he COULDNT be a creator without existing because hes all powerful, its easy for him. This theory is equaly as logical (though I use the word with more caution than I used to) as the first cause argument.
He could decide to create a universe... without ever existing in the first place.
The universe is so complex and amazing because it was designed (by aforementioned ultimate being).
However god does not, never did and never will exist.
Now thats impressive. And I dont want no theists telling me that he COULDNT be a creator without existing because hes all powerful, its easy for him. This theory is equaly as logical (though I use the word with more caution than I used to) as the first cause argument.
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