Should you defend a friend if it is wrong?

[Sanitarium]

Don't help them unless they're in danger. It's best that people get their asses kicked when they're in the wrong, it's how we learn. If people are allowed to keep doing the wrong things and get saved by their mates then they won't learn.

[aaronmason]

Ok

OK... you all now seem to have a stereotypical image that my friends are complete wankers basically!!! You have over exagerated. When i say stupid reasons i mean like someone looking at their woman, but maybe to them that is a threat. What would you do if someone constantly stared you out and looked as if they thought they could have you but you know that is not possible. I would avoid this situation.. have done... have only started a fight once in my life.

[aaronmason]

What i just seaid made no complete sense!!!! haha. Sorry bout dat. Wot i am saying is that to them the threat may b a lot kind of. Undertsnad what i mean? You probably don't!!! By the way, they have been tue mates for many years.

[Thai Bri]

These idiots seem to get into alot of scrapes. Either they are incredibly unlucky, or they are morons. Like you.

[mysticdragon]

hey Ipon

Dude it depends on how close you are with these "friends". I don't want my friends hurt, but at the same time people deserve (and need) to get thier ass handed to them. If the person has mouth like a man and acts like a tough guy, then they should fight their own battles especially the ones they start. I have never asked a friennd to help me in a fight at best it would be to make sure other people didn't jump in. Not really popular way to be, but peer pressure is a bitch and so is a bully.

hey there why is this subject important to you Imean everyone expresses there feelings different. I think you should not defend them. I know what you are trying to say and I respect that. I really like what you wrote about peer pressure and you are right and also on the bully stuff. Have you ever been through peer pressure if you do not mind me asking, or have you been a bully.

oh I am not a dude I am young beautiful girl

Bye now

[mysticdragon]

your right sanitarium

I agree with you they should learn from there own mistakes

[aaronmason]

Ok

Firstly, Thai Bri, in my opinion you are the moron - don't be so opinionated, jump to conclusions and don't judge someone before you know them. Watch out because if you contiune the way you are you won't get very far. My stereotypical image of you is that you are an egoistic, up-yourself, , self-contained and basically pathetic ****! (do you like it if i throw it back in your face? or are you too 'good' to take an insult from someone!?) or am i jumping to conclusions like you???!

Secondly, hi mysticdragon, you sound like a nice lady. With a clear perspective and a conscience! And a reason to reply that is not trying to make yourself sound cool and hard in front of anyone!!!!! By the way Thai Bri, i aint got nufin 2 prove n i am not scared of no1. Have i ever been through peer pressure or have i been a bully? To tell you the TRUTH, i would say both in a number of circumstances.

Take it ez

[gregimotis]

Aaronmason, meet Thai Bri. Thai Bri, Arronmason.

Bri is our resident instigator here at defend.net. He may be aburpt and nasty, but he's also kinda smart sometimes and he keeps the real trolls under control. Have fun you too!

[Thai Bri]

Yes. Lets be friends. That way I can treat decent people like shit, but then rely on you to help beat them up.

Prannock.

[rkcann01]

You're a tard.

[TNT]

.....putting in my 2 and 3/4 cents.......Greg(this is not directed at you) but remember what I said about perception being reality??......Perhaps we should remember that opinion is ONLY opinion and should not be confused with fact.......so chill peeps
PEACE

[Thai Bri]

A tard?

Haw haw haw!

[KONY]

At the risk of sounding "preachy", I say that the answer to your question is dependent on your moral/ value standards. Your morals/values determine what actions you feel are "right" vs. "wrong". Therefore, if you value friendship/loyalty above all else, you will defend your friends at all costs. However, if you value justice above all else, you will do the opposite. The tricky part is that many people value both of these highly, thus creating a moral dilemma in situations such as these.

For example, lets look at the Jayson Williams trial. According to accounts of Williams' friends, he tried to coerce them into helping him cover-up the murder. They actually complied for a little bit until they came to their senses. I fault Williams for this as he forced his "friends" into the moral dilemma of choosing justice over friendship.

[IPON]

hey there why is this subject important to you Imean everyone expresses there feelings different. I think you should not defend them.

Hi MD...I am not sure what you are asking. I am not defending anyone.

Have you ever been through peer pressure if you do not mind me asking, or have you been a bully.

Everyone that has at least one friend has expeienced peer pressure to some degree, the question is how you handle it. I have dealt with peer pressure allot on different subjects, becuase I am not a follower and I have a sense of morales. The question was about this person starting fights and expecting his friend to back him up. IMHO, a person like that is a punk and/or bully, he is starting fights with ppl he percieves that can easly be beaten and/or because he has a friend(s) as back-up (2 on 1 fight). My feeling is if you are man enough to start the fight you should be man enough to take responsibility for the outcome. Now if it were my friend and they did not start the fight I would defiately step in to fight in a friend's place if he could not handle teh situation.

[jubaji]

ok, here's what I usually tell people I'm out with and have been saying for a while that way there's no surprises:

If you pick the fight, you're on your own. I'm not your body guard.

Why not? With your no-touch ki attack it shouldn't be much of a bother for you anyway.