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  • #76
    Originally posted by holyman
    Guys,

    How do you chat up women ?. What do you say to them to get them interested in you ?.
    Oh, am I supposed to talk to them? I thought you just had to agree their price, and that was it...

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    • #77
      I writing this at 2 in the morning and I’m to tired to proof read it. If it doesn’t make any sense then ignore it or ask me to clarify.


      Well talking to women is easy. You talk to women all day long. Teachers, cashiers, the chick at the drive thru. It's only when you are confronted with a women you're attracted to that you become nervous (duh Gray). So the problem that you need to solve is being comfortable talking to women you're attracted to.

      But when you talk to women you're attracted to then you're dealing with two variables. (1) You talking to a chick that you want to impress, (2) You trying to steer the conversation to the point where you can ask the girl for a date/her number (screw friendships, save it for the relationship). You're dealing with 2 things at the same time that you're not comfortable with and have little or no experience with. So no wonder you don't function correctly. So the obvious answer is to reduce the variables. The answer is to become experienced or proficient in one of the variables before you can master the 2. Babies can't walk and chew bubble gum at the same time. They have to master one before they can attempt the other or else they fail miserably almost every time (you're not a baby, I'm not saying you are, it's just a medi-fore).

      So with that said, you should work on steering the conversation to the point where you can ask the girl for a date/her number before you try to impress the women you like. The best way to become proficient in that is to start talking to women you have little interest in. The best way to build your skill at picking up women is to hit on those you're not very attracted to. Talking to a women you're not very attracted to helps you get comfortable and experienced in pickup women. Talking to women you're not very attracted to will be easier cause you're not trying to impress her, you're being your natural self. You functioning correctly and not distracted by her beauty, so you think clearly. Get your self so comfortable with asking women out that you don't even think twice about it when you do. Do it until the question comes naturally and not forced or awkward, then you're ready to talk to those women that you are very attracted to. It's bowling but with bumpers. It's the same game but with out the distraction of failure. If she says no, who cares. If she says yes, show her the best time she's ever had. Get comfortable with asking girls out before you start asking girls out there you’re really and very attracted to. It’s simple but effective. And like everything that matters, dating take practice.

      This might sound mean spirited but it's really not. And it's not mean spirited just because everyone uses other people for their own means. It's not mean spirited cause you genuinely want to take her out. You want to take her out on a date cause you're interested in her, not as much as you could be with someone else but still. You want to show her a good time. You're not in it for the long run but you never said you were in the first place. And when it comes time to break up with her you certainly don't do everything you can to hurt the poor girl. Just be honest and tell her that you’re not looking for a relationship.

      I say you should take my advise from my first post on page one but if you don’t like that then maybe this will do.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by The Kestrel
        Edit: does wombat have a plural?
        It would seem to be something like wombi, but that sounds weird.
        It is wombats. Check out this site for more info...

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        • #79
          Originally posted by GrayGhost
          You want to show her a good time. You're not in it for the long run but you never said you were in the first place. And when it comes time to break up with her you certainly don't do everything you can to hurt the poor girl. Just be honest and tell her that you’re not looking for a relationship.

          I say you should take my advise from my first post on page one but if you don’t like that then maybe this will do.
          At last my whole theory that when a guy says "I am not ready for committment" what they REALLY mean is "I am not ready for committment to YOU" has been proven correct!!!!!

          Gee GrayGhost I wonder why there are woman out there who think men are complete bastards? I love the whole "I never said I was in it for the long run" excuse. Does anyone ever meet someone and go "Hi my name is.....and I would like to go out with you, just to let you know I am not in this for the long run and I will be dumping your ass in a few months time, but it is for a good cause I need practice talking to women I am not attracted to...and guess what? It is your lucky day!!!!!!!!!!!!" Mmmmmmmmmmmmm.....I wonder why people have such problems with relationships!!!!!

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          • #80
            Originally posted by polegirl
            I wonder why people have such problems with relationships!!!!!
            What's a relationship?
            I thought women always left when the money ran out...

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            • #81
              Polegirl,

              I never said to go steady with the girl, I'm talkig about dating. And dating doesn't always lead to a relationships.

              And if you'd like,there are a lot more bullshit lines that girls give guys.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Kimpatsu
                What's a relationship?
                I thought women always left when the money ran out...
                Oh my good god.
                You have made my day...
                Can I use that?
                Seriously, man, you can patent that statement and make t-shirts, coffe mugs, and stuff...yeahs.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Garland
                  Oh my good god.
                  You have made my day...
                  Can I use that?
                  Seriously, man, you can patent that statement and make t-shirts, coffe mugs, and stuff...yeahs.
                  Be my guest. I have some others, too, if you're interested.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by GrayGhost
                    Polegirl,

                    I never said to go steady with the girl, I'm talkig about dating. And dating doesn't always lead to a relationships.

                    And if you'd like,there are a lot more bullshit lines that girls give guys.
                    GrayGhost - I never said that girls don't feed guys stuff (I have had plenty of friends feed guys stuff that made my skin crawl and feel really sorry for them), but you know two wrongs don't make a right.

                    But let me get this right (just so I understand) dishonesty in dating is okay, but wrong in relationships. So when dating leads to a relationship (which sometimes happens) then when does the dishonesty end and the honesty begin? Personally (and this is just my opinion) life would be a whole lot easier if people were just honest, with others and themselves, because eventually the truth comes out (hey was that in a movie???) and when it does it causes a whole lot of damage.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by polegirl
                      GrayGhost - I never said that girls don't feed guys stuff (I have had plenty of friends feed guys stuff that made my skin crawl and feel really sorry for them), but you know two wrongs don't make a right.

                      But let me get this right (just so I understand) dishonesty in dating is okay, but wrong in relationships. So when dating leads to a relationship (which sometimes happens) then when does the dishonesty end and the honesty begin?
                      Happens all the time in dating; both men and women. viscious cycle.

                      Originally posted by polegirl
                      Personally (and this is just my opinion) life would be a whole lot easier if people were just honest, with others and themselves, because eventually the truth comes out (hey was that in a movie???) and when it does it causes a whole lot of damage.
                      Yep. If ya just wanna hook up, then say so. People who don't know what they want.

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                      • #86
                        Polegirl,

                        No, you're gotten it wrong and you don't understand.

                        Reread the paragraph where it says:

                        It's not mean spirited cause you genuinely want to take her out. You want to take her out on a date cause you're interested in her, not as much as you could be with someone else but still.

                        Hmmm, kinda sounds like normal dating to me. You date someone till you find someone better. Where's the dishonesty? The fact that you tell the girl that you're not looking for a relationship is pretty fuckin' honest if you ask me.

                        So I advise that guys work the system, what's wrong with that? You're using the girl to get what you want but how is that different then a girl using me to get gifts or a warm body to hug? And for god sake get off the relationship crap, I'm talking about dating. At no time did I say you should have a relationship or serious relationship with a girl you aren't all that interested in. There is a big difference between dating and having a committed relationship.

                        P.S. So you want an honest to goodness relationship? Pure and naked honesty? I commend you. I've looked for it and have never found it yet (please don't give the remark I know you could). 99.9% people can't handle it. But if you are then I say good for you. Just don't expect everyone else to be ready for it, nor do they really want it. But if you're ever in CA, look me up, I'd love to have a honest relationship for once.

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                        • #87
                          Ladder Theory

                          For those of you with trouble chatting up women may find this article helpfull.



                          Don't let the title scare you. In a nut shell it's a theory on why women just want to be friends and why men think about sex.....knowing these differences can make starting a conversation easier....

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Gunjin
                            In a nut shell it's a theory on why women just want to be friends....
                            i am left clueless about the above statement... jj.

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                            • #89
                              Gray Ghost,

                              I don't think I've ever been dishonest in a personal relationship, whether it was with someone I was dating, or someone I was seeing long-term. And I've never "used" a man for presents or cuddles... In fact, part of my honesty in the past has included "I don't feel comfortable getting these presents from you, because it kind of makes me feel like you're trying to buy my affection", and "I know you like being close, but can you please give me a little more physical space and not cuddle me as much". HAHA yes, it's true!

                              Cakegirl

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Gunjin
                                In a nut shell it's a theory on why women just want to be friends
                                Women already are friends: with their credit cards, shoe collections, and plastic toys.
                                What do they need men for?

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