Do you have a religion?

[Garland]

and the NOTHING label hasn't put out anything good in a long time...the new NIN is a longshot at best, considering how little radio play it gets...

Man, I just saw the world's shortest/smallest man...the guy, was like, I shit you not, I mean, I really ain't playin here, I ain't joking, es true, es true, 28 inches tall. Compare that to the size of Mark Wahlberg's prosthesis (not probiscus) in Boogie Nights...now reflect upon THAT. HA!

[EmptyneSs]

good post n all greg, but im not an athiest, nor did i say i was one.

[Garland]

doing doing doing.....the way she moves she like a belly dancer
she shakin' that ass the new Nelly jamz-a
think someone's at the door
but I don't think I'm gonna answa
police saying "freeze"
doing doing doing

what do you mean? Freeze?
I'm a human being!
I have needs.
I'm NOT done, not till I'm finished peeing.
I AM not resisting arrest, I am agreeing
Mr. Officer I'm already on my knees
I can't get on the ground any further -it's impossible for me
Don't treat me like a murdera
I just like to pee

pee pee YES I make R&B
I sing song it go ringy chong ring chong ching chong ching
Psyche, I JOKE, I joke, I kiiid, I kiiid.
If I offend I'm sorry
please please forgive
for I am triumph, I am a mere puppet, I can get away with anything I say&do
I love it!
...

GAWD, I love this song...!!!!!!

[Tom Yum]

Being an atheist, I'm always amazed how religious people from the 3 main religions always praise god for the good things in their life but when asked why god allows for so muchmissery in this world, Man himself is to blame because god gave nim free will

Ok

Or teach their kids to ask :"Where you there?" if someone talks about dinosaurs living millions of years ago but do not accept the same questiion when talking about the bible (where they there when is supposedly happened, where they when it was written down?)

I'm a Christian.

I do not discredit dinosaur fossils. No one can deny the fact that science is a very usefull tool. Money is a usefull tool as well. Did the guilder exist during the Pre-Historic era?

Evolution is a theory. Its an interesting one too, but no one is certain how it fits into the grand scheme of things. Just like many Christians denied the sun centered model of the universe in favor of the earth centered one. The sad thing was that Copernicus was a Christian too.

Was evolution responsible for high temperature fusion of hydrogen into helium 40 something million years ago? Boy that's an awful lot of energy and pressure to be concentrated in one space...

Evolution is something that we have created to try and explain our existance.
You could argue the same is true of religion, but under many dire circumstances religion has overcome statistical odds. It has refined the lives of those who have truly come to find it on its own merit.

The holy books tell that the omnipotent entity is the only one who is allowed to judge over life and death and still there are those who think they should help that omnipotent entity by killing certain people

Toudiy, Christians do not believe they are helping God by killing certain people. The ability to distinguish what is really said in the Bible versus twisting it to fit political actions and agendas is becoming a more improtant issue amongst Christians today. There are voices in the media who are begining to make this distinction.

Being an Atheist, I'm not interrested in making religious people stop believing, I do not want to interfere in their life, pitty that this isn't alway mutual and that some religious groups try to get rid of secular society and force their way of life on to me and other Atheist ( as well as those from other faiths). Examples from the US, "One Nation, under god" in the classrooms and trying to get rid of teachings on evolution even from public schools

Good point.

If you were a US citizen, you have a freedom to practice your own religion, whichever it may be. You do what the law allows you and you do what your religion calls of you.

I will not persecute someone on the basis of their religion. Even during this conflict with the middle east, I have never said or thought anything harmfull of other's religions, except the possibility of extremists being the people responsible for the terrorist acts.

[Sensei Saki]

Try saying that with more or less context.
Oh you don't, do you?That is a rather sweeping generalization about people.Aren't all usefull tool as well Money?
If
guilder exist during the Pre-Historic era
did, then I will be surprised.When is Evolution not a theory?
I think you mean "it's" or "it is" not "its". Are there any other interesting one too but no one is certain how it fits into the grand scheme of things?evolution responsible for high temperature fusion of hydrogen into helium 40 something million years ago might have been.Are they exactly the same?
I could but let's get back to that later.Has it really?All of them?Ah. Thanks for telling me, .What is your real name?Where are they?Yes, I thought it was interesting when I heard it too.I will let you know when I become a US citizen you have a freedom to practise your own religion whichever it may be.

[Garland]

Good point.

If you were a US citizen, you have a freedom to practice your own religion, whichever it may be.
.

Okay...but what about if I start a religion based on subversive drug trafficking and unnatural sex acts with trees and furry woodland creatures....???
What then????
Then the TERRORISTS have truly WON!
God bless America.
Where I can't drink, but I can get shot by some fucking asshole for coming into his house to steal his oil, eh...WELL???
Fuckit.
I say...do what you want...if there is a God...he'll understand, and if not...**** him anyway. Tell him to suck ya nuts.

[Tom Yum]

Okay...but what about if I start a religion based on subversive drug trafficking and unnatural sex acts with trees and furry woodland creatures....???
What then????.

Your religion would be breaking federal laws.

Then the TERRORISTS have truly WON!
God bless America. Where I can't drink, but I can get shot by some fucking asshole for coming into his house to steal his oil, eh...WELL???
Fuckit. I say...do what you want...if there is a God...he'll understand, and if not...**** him anyway. Tell him to suck ya nuts.

I guess I'm supposed to blush and look like this... ......

[MatthewAlphonso]

From what I've read Buddhism is primarily an atheistic religion (if there are any buddhist here, please correct me), the Buddhists do not revere any buddhas (there are hundreds of them) as gods, merely as saints and priests. Though the Hindu's revere Siddharta (the Buddha) as a god. The closest thing that Buddhists have to a god is the one energy, the prana, this is not a creative force. merely the lifeline of the universe.

Also, the president is a fundamentalist pig, he is a liar, and he is a hippocrite (spelling?). unfortunatley his main opponent was the same thing. His policies have failed miserably and though he ran on the idea of making government smaller he has made it far more pervasive and has expanded it in almost any way he can. he brought us from a 3 trillion dollar surplus into a recession and a 5 trillion dollar deficit. he has us borrowing mony from other countries on a daily basis, just so we can keep the country running. that's all I have to say about him.

[zhorner]

someone mentioned dinosaurs or fossils.....the bible mentions giant lizards some where in the old test. i think it was job, or jobe, (however you spell it). i still think christianity sucks nuts.

the problem i have is...christians claim jesus to be the messiah...the one predicted in the jewish tanakh...and yet, he fulfilled absolutely none of the tasks that the messiah was supposed to. for example...make judaism the only world religion, rebuild the temple (which was still intact at the time), blah blah blah. anywho he didnt do anything. oh yeah he walked on water and floated from the grave or whatever...good one, ha.

i took a religion class a few semesters ago and we studied most of the worlds major religions...and they are all full of shit. who wrote the bible? some monkeys did, not god. the caste system of hindu is shit. different levels of existence is crap...how can they know that. scientology, which was created by a freaking science fiction author...is the most handicapped of all religions. kosher/dietary laws are also stupid.

american religion is so hypocritical to me..."im a good little christian/hindu/muslim, but after church is over im gonna go smoke some pot and gossip about everyone behind their back.

okay folks...i am going to show you how to have a good afterlife, (i say afterlife as if death isnt the same as when the terminator gets killed and everything goes black forever, but just to humor myself), just do what is right. thats it, just do what you know is right. every mentally normal person has a "moral compass", we know when we are f'ing up. dont steal, dont go out of your way to make someone elses day worse. god or no god, that is the way to live.

if that mullet of a god will send someone to hell or whatever for just living their life and not doing any harm to anyone just because they weren't "saved" der der der. then i will put him in a rolling knee-bar...(i know you cristian anus bastards, you cant do that to god because he isnt an object blah blah he is here but he isnt , blah blah the law of permanence blah blah).

how many christians out their can explain the theory behind the trinity...one god but three beings? it is amazing how many cannot...hahahahaha

[MatthewAlphonso]

Ok
I do not discredit dinosaur fossils. No one can deny the fact that science is a very usefull tool. Money is a usefull tool as well. Did the guilder exist during the Pre-Historic era?

No, the guilder did not exist back then, but then again, money has existed in some form or another in all time frames, either in the physical manner (Incan gold, or jade beads) or in services (prostitution, hunting an animal)

Evolution is a theory. Its an interesting one too, but no one is certain how it fits into the grand scheme of things. Just like many Christians denied the sun centered model of the universe in favor of the earth centered one. The sad thing was that Copernicus was a Christian too.

the problem with you saying that evolution is a theory lies within your definition of theory and the scientific definition of theory. A scientific law states that something does happen (Laww of gravity, things fall when dropped) a theory is the explanation of how it happens (Theory of Gravity, there is an invisible, yet constant, force that naturally pulls an object to the center of the mass of a larger object) given this, the Theory of evolution is not just a guess, it is the best known explanation for why things change over time.

Furthermore, the Greeks, who were not Christian also proposed the Heliocentric Theory, they also were the first ones to propose what we call the Theory of Evolution. They noticed, and recorded, how animals would change over generations. Also, the Greeks were the first to state that the earth was round and were able to, using only shadows, predict the circumference of the Earth within 100 meters.

Was evolution responsible for high temperature fusion of hydrogen into helium 40 something million years ago? Boy that's an awful lot of energy and pressure to be concentrated in one space...

No, gravity was responsible for that. Also, we have created fusion reaction on Earth, but have been uncapable of sustaining them. We even made one into a bomb, pity we haven't used it yet on a live target.

Evolution is something that we have created to try and explain our existance.
You could argue the same is true of religion, but under many dire circumstances religion has overcome statistical odds. It has refined the lives of those who have truly come to find it on its own merit.

yes, religion has helped people, it is true. but look at what harm it has done. religious intollerance caused the holocaust. religious intollerance, responsible for the literally hundreds of papal inquisitions, the burning of the library at Alexandria, the Salem witch trials (of whom none of the victims were witches) the slaying of the Celits and the Druids, the supression of the heathen faiths, the deaths of countless mothers who were denied abortion though having the child would kill them, the pain and suffering of those who blindly followed their religious leaders, even into death. the crippling effects and painful deaths of those who seek aid from those faith healing fakes. is all of that worth the few that were helped?

all these and more are reasons I chose the faith that I did. I sought a faith that has not been responsible for literally billions of deaths. (though the Druids did at one time practice human sacrifice, it was almost always through the clash of warriors, or the punishment of criminals) I sought a faith that I could see, hear, smell, and feel. I want gods that I love and love me, not a God that I love only because I fear it.

Toudiy, Christians do not believe they are helping God by killing certain people. The ability to distinguish what is really said in the Bible versus twisting it to fit political actions and agendas is becoming a more improtant issue amongst Christians today. There are voices in the media who are begining to make this distinction.

on the contrary, all of the inquisitions were in the name of God, they believed they were aiding God's works

If you were a US citizen, you have a freedom to practice your own religion, whichever it may be. You do what the law allows you and you do what your religion calls of you.

Tom, if I may call you Tom, as much as I would love to agree with you (after all, such is guaranteed to us, and you seem pretty cool with rather well put together thoughts) I can't. the political system is slanted toward the monotheistic belief systems. Mostly for the Christians. Almost all of the Cadre that surrounds President Shrubya are fundies who would love to set Jesus as the national icon. Also, Bush is actively anti-pagan. When the Base out at Ft. Worth was letting Wiccans practice on their own time, Bush (Governor Bush then) wanted to cut off all state funding from the base (It was a National Guard base) stating that he did not see Witchcraft as being a serious religion. He also stated that he does not think Atheist are citizens nor are they patriots.

I will not persecute someone on the basis of their religion. Even during this conflict with the middle east, I have never said or thought anything harmfull of other's religions, except the possibility of extremists being the people responsible for the terrorist acts.

then I was right, you are most definitley a good man. this is one statement I agree 100% with you on.

Furthermore, I think Zhorner is just a little angsty twit.

[zhorner]

Furthermore, I think Zhorner is just a little angsty twit.

wow...i have some tater-tot calling me an angsty twit...i laugh, ha!

#1. i may be angsty, but i am not a twit.
#2. can i eat your stomach?
#3. you are a moon cricket.
#4. you have zack horner penis envy.
#5. after i consume your stomach, may my pet rabbit have your butt?
#6. his name is compton-ass ralph, and he loves chewin da butt.

i cant wait to get a reply to this...no wonder i have no human friends.

[MatthewAlphonso]

wow...i have some tater-tot calling me an angsty twit...i laugh, ha!

#1. i may be angsty, but i am not a twit.
#2. can i eat your stomach?
#3. you are a moon cricket.
#4. you have zack horner penis envy.
#5. after i consume your stomach, may my pet rabbit have your butt?
#6. his name is compton-ass ralph, and he loves chewin da butt.

i cant wait to get a reply to this...no wonder i have no human friends.

1 well, would you rather twit or twat? (the British way, where it is pronounced as "at' rather than "ot")

2 yes, you can have my stomach, I've got to lose weight before I can leave for basic anyway.

3 It is quite doubtful that moon crickets do indeed exist, though whether or not I exist remains to be seen as well.

4 My penis is perhaps too large, a smaller penis may be quite nice.

5 Yes, your pet rabbit my have my ass. but in my experience rabbits are herbivorous creatures. why would he want to chew my butt?

6 why is your rabbit names after a "ghetto"?

[Tom Yum]

No, the guilder did not exist back then, but then again, money has existed in some form or another in all time frames, either in the physical manner (Incan gold, or jade beads) or in services (prostitution, hunting an animal).

You are referring to trade. The tools of trade were designed to serve man, with currency establishing a readily exchangable commodity backed by precious metals. All designed to serve man.

Yes, prostitution is one of the oldest trades as its even talked about in the Bible and other world religion texts.

the problem with you saying that evolution is a theory lies within your definition of theory and the scientific definition of theory. A scientific law states that something does happen (Laww of gravity, things fall when dropped) a theory is the explanation of how it happens (Theory of Gravity, there is an invisible, yet constant, force that naturally pulls an object to the center of the mass of a larger object) given this, the Theory of evolution is not just a guess, it is the best known explanation for why things change over time..

Evolution is a theory as in Darwin's theory of evolution; it is an explanation. Yes, the law of gravity proves something that allready existed.

Furthermore, the Greeks, who were not Christian also proposed the Heliocentric Theory, they also were the first ones to propose what we call the Theory of Evolution. They noticed, and recorded, how animals would change over generations. Also, the Greeks were the first to state that the earth was round and were able to, using only shadows, predict the circumference of the Earth within 100 meters...

Yes, the Greeks theory of the heliocentric universe involved an earth balance by a counter-earth sharing the same orbit. This is not perfect, but considering the time it originate, its pretty good.

No, gravity was responsible for that. Also, we have created fusion reaction on Earth, but have been uncapable of sustaining them. We even made one into a bomb, pity we haven't used it yet on a live target.

Yes, gravity is a fascinating force isn't it. The inverse square rule governs so many of our forces...but how did this force come into existance?

yes, religion has helped people, it is true. but look at what harm it has done. religious intollerance caused the holocaust. religious intollerance, responsible for the literally hundreds of papal inquisitions, the burning of the library at Alexandria, the Salem witch trials (of whom none of the victims were witches) the slaying of the Celits and the Druids, the supression of the heathen faiths, the deaths of countless mothers who were denied abortion though having the child would kill them, the pain and suffering of those who blindly followed their religious leaders, even into death. the crippling effects and painful deaths of those who seek aid from those faith healing fakes. is all of that worth the few that were helped?.

About the past, there were times that religion became extremely powerfull and because of it, man became corrupt. That's true, but as you know power corrupts.

People are born sinners and some will sin greatly against others, taking lives and ruining others. Have you noticed how things work themselves out? Some people call it karma, but there are so many documented incidents specifically where prayer and faith have brought people through amazing circumstances.

all these and more are reasons I chose the faith that I did. I sought a faith that has not been responsible for literally billions of deaths. (though the Druids did at one time practice human sacrifice, it was almost always through the clash of warriors, or the punishment of criminals) I sought a faith that I could see, hear, smell, and feel. I want gods that I love and love me, not a God that I love only because I fear it. on the contrary, all of the inquisitions were in the name of God, they believed they were aiding God's works?.

You are free to practice whichever religion you choose (you won't hear this coming out of many Christian's mouths), but I think living testimonies from people's lives are very convincing and awesome considering what has happened to them and how there life changed by following the Bible. The wisdom of the Bible is a great thing.

Again, you are free to warship in any religion you choose, even Devil worship as long as you don't break the law. But I have to ask how such a religion makes a true improvement in one's life. I won't judge you, that's not my job and I have my own flaws to take care of...

Tom, if I may call you Tom, as much as I would love to agree with you (after all, such is guaranteed to us, and you seem pretty cool with rather well put together thoughts) I can't. the political system is slanted toward the monotheistic belief systems. Mostly for the Christians. Almost all of the Cadre that surrounds President Shrubya are fundies who would love to set Jesus as the national icon. Also, Bush is actively anti-pagan. When the Base out at Ft. Worth was letting Wiccans practice on their own time, Bush (Governor Bush then) wanted to cut off all state funding from the base (It was a National Guard base) stating that he did not see Witchcraft as being a serious religion. He also stated that he does not think Atheist are citizens nor are they patriots.?.

Thanks for the compliment, Mathew. I don't have any say on the matter because I'm not a politician. Being pagan puts you at odds with Christians, there's no denying that. But I am not one to stir the can o' worms.

Last thoughts, Christianity does not make one an exclusive political conservative. Need proof?

Read the Bible.

[Sensei Saki]

Oops. I wasn't paying attention. Tell me again what is going on.

[Toudiyama[NL]]

Consider, yon athiest, if there is no god out there to please, then why not choose a happier belief system for yourself. You don't have to join a church. Just allow yourself to believe that maybe you don't know everthying, and hope to be pleasantly surprised one day.

As an Atheist, I already have a believe, the believe that there is no supreme being in control of it all And guess what, that makes me very happy.
I also have the believe that when I die, it all stops, what is left is some energy ( well matter but that will be converted in energy)
And that too makes me happy

Considering my time limited, I rather spend it helping other people than worshipping some god