Truth about American Pitbull terriers

[jubaji]

Sure he can be your friend and your companion, but don't forget he IS a DOG.

That's just not cool, talking about your husband in public like that. Save that abuse for in private...

[jubaji]

There was a time when men were men, and dogs were dogs.

See, idiots like GQueer read shit like that and run out to get a pit bull (and another pair of socks!)

[HtTKar]

Hunting: There are better breeds to get for that

Rodent control: There are better breeds to get for that

Pulling stuff: There are better breeds to get for that

Keeping predators away: There are better breeds to get for that

Sorry, dont have room for a pack of dogs. Most people dont...thats why they created the PitBul. One dog is enough.


You called a Pit "tough and scary". Thats funny, and really shows where you're coming from.

Every 20 minutes, you post another random argument. I know you're a very literate person. Please, for the sake of discussion, post what you really think. I'd like to hear an intelligent argument, instead of all this bickering and name-calling. When you're ready for that let me know. Until then, you will always think of me as "Part of the problem", and I will always think of you as another whiney old cat lover on the "Ban Pit-bull" bandwagon.

[jubaji]

You called a Pit "tough and scary". Thats funny, and really shows where you're coming from.

Actually, I was responding to your "instill a little fear" comment. Or maybe you think cute and wimpy are what instills fear? Don't try to pull such an obvious spin...

[jubaji]

where have I said "ban"? you fucking moron

and I will always think of you as another whiney old cat lover on the "Ban Pit-bull" bandwagon.

Where does the cat issue come into this? And, once again, read my comments before responding to them, idiot.

[jubaji]

Sorry, dont have room for a pack of dogs. Most people dont...thats why they created the PitBul.

Actually, there is a very specific reason why 'they' created the pitbull...

[jubaji]

Please, for the sake of discussion, post what you really think.

I have, several times. Like this:

Forget about legislation, etc. Why don't you just do your part by getting yourself a great dog of some less dangerous breed and consider that your personal contribution to making the situation better.

[HtTKar]

Actually, I was responding to your "instill a little fear" comment. ...

Ok, got it.
What I meant by that statement, and it is not clear.
One thing new legislation has brought is it makes owners of pits afraid of having their dogs taken away from them if they misbehave. Pit owners (should) know by now that if their dog gets in a fight, or gets loose, there is a high chance it will be put down. It would be nice if owners of other breeds of dogs had the same fear, which they do not.

This I do believe is a positive step. I do not believe, however, that it should be breed-specific. All dogs should be treated as potentially dangerous animals. They should be supervised and under controll at all times, and if the owner doesnt have the energy or discipline to do that; the dog should be taken away and put down.

I definitely did NOT mean to imply that people should be afraid of Pits. After re-reading my statement, I can see how you may have thought I meant that.

[jubaji]

I do not believe, however, that it should be breed-specific. All dogs should be treated as potentially dangerous animals.

The problem with that idea is that it avoids the main point being discussed here that some breeds are more dangerous than others.

[GonzoStyles]

So is a Doberman Pinscer owner just as big of a selfish ego-centered prick who puts his image ahead of community safety?

If you own an Akita are you putting children at risk?

How about Rottweilers?

German shepards?

great Danes?

Mastiffs?

or ANY mixed breed over 35lbs?

I love all the myths that people take as fact.

Emptyness still thought pitbulls have "locking jaws"

and Osopardo claimed pitbulls teeth "face backwards"

hate to tell you but ALL dogs teeth face backwards.

Unfortunately some peoples opinions are backwards as well...............

[jubaji]

So is a Doberman Pinscer owner just as big of a selfish ego-centered prick who puts his image ahead of community safety?

If you own an Akita are you putting children at risk?

How about Rottweilers?

German shepards?

great Danes?

Mastiffs?
...............

http://www.dogbitelaw.com/breeds-causing-DBRFs.pdf

"Studies indicate that pit bull-type dogs were involved in approximately a third of human DBRF (i.e., dog bite related fatalities) reported during the 12-year period from 1981 through1992, and Rottweilers were responsible for about half of human DBRF reported during the 4 years from 1993 through 1996....[T]he data indicate that Rottweilers and pit bull-type dogs accounted for 67% of human DBRF in the United States between 1997 and 1998. It is extremely unlikely that they accounted for anywhere near 60% of dogs in the United States during that same period and, thus, there appears to be a breed-specific problem with fatalities." (Sacks JJ, Sinclair L, Gilchrist J, Golab GC, Lockwood R. Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998. JAVMA 2000;217:836-840.)

Other breeds were also responsible for homicides, but to a much lesser extent. A 1997 study of dog bite fatalities in the years 1979 through 1996 revealed that the following breeds had killed one or more persons: pit bulls, Rottweilers, German shepherds, huskies, Alaskan malamutes, Doberman pinschers, chows, Great Danes, St. Bernards and Akitas. (Dog Bite Related Fatalities," Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, May 30, 1997, Vol. 46, No. 21, pp. 463 et. seq.)

[HtTKar]

The problem with that idea is that it avoids the main point being discussed here that some breeds are more dangerous than others.

I agree that some breeds are more dangerous than others. This is not due to the breed itself, but the fact that some breeds are larger and stronger than others. True, a chihuahua is hardly a threat, though it seems most of them are more prone to biting than other breeds. There is only one cocker-spaniel I have ever met that at one time or another did not try to bite me...its probably only a matter of time.

You stated boxers as being a better breed. Of the 4 boxers I know, 3 of them have attacked another dog at one time or another.

Here is one example of one fight I watched personally. My neighbor had a boxer and a mutt. As their neighbor was mowing the lawn, both dogs started barking at the lawn mower through the fence. The male mutt then turned on the female boxer and really started chewing into her. She let it go on for a while (at least 15minutes) before defending herself. When she finally started fighting back, she really messed that mutt up in about 2 minutes. I never saw the male dog after that, I think the owners put it down. See, the boxer was not at fault, but the fact that she was the larger, stronger dog allowed her to survive.

Pits are muscle-bound athletic dogs. The second strongest dog pound-per-pound, so of course if they are ALSO aggressive they pose more of a threat than a little lap-dog. But it is not Breed-specific. It is the fact that people let large aggressive dogs run loose, unnuetered/unspayed, and undisciplined.

[jubaji]

what planet are some folks from?

I agree that some breeds are more dangerous than others. This is not due to the breed itself, but the fact that some breeds are larger and stronger than others.

Umm....you don't see a little self-contradiction in those comments?

[jubaji]

Pits are muscle-bound athletic dogs. The second strongest dog pound-per-pound, so of course if they are ALSO aggressive they pose more of a threat than a little lap-dog. But it is not Breed-specific.

psssst....see post #146

[jubaji]

You stated boxers as being a better breed. Of the 4 boxers I know, 3 of them have attacked another dog at one time or another.

Anecdotal evidence is proof of nothing. You should know that much at least.

But if you want to start another thread about boxers, feel free.