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  • Nice link Jubaji it basically summed up my entire posting in this thread about breeders and the ghetto craze, too bad your bias wont let you see anything but your media based opinion. This dog June was a RESCUED pit that would have been euthanized for no reason other than ignorant people like yourself repeat anything they see or read. Your reply makes no sense, nor does it address the THOUSANDS of everyday people who own pitbulls, nor does it talk about the people who work with dogs everyday and are making an effort to counter this flood of media hype about pitbulls.
    Dozens of pitbull readoption centers that scrutinize these dogs for temperment, and attempt to find a suitable home for them. These people must all be egomaniacs according to your logic or lack thereof. Animal care proffessionals who VOLUNTEER time and money to show the true side of this breed.
    People who have worked with animals their entire lives and are deeply distressed that fearmongering, media mis-educated people would have all these great dogs destroyed. Your thinking falls right in line with the PETA stance on pitbulls, nice to see you have some like minded fanatical individuals to rave about pitbulls ferocity with Jubaji.

    I am done with this thread, my point has been made, my opinion is shared by quite a few proffesional people who have worked with these dogs for decades. Why would these people put their reputations, finances (liability?)
    and OTHER PEOPLES LIVES on the line to try and prove that these dogs are not the animal the media has made them out to be? WHY?
    People who are making a great effort to stop the tide of misinformation spread by a fear based media. People who have seen the truth about pitbulls.

    Are they all delusional? Are they egomaniacs concerned only with Image?
    Upon closer inspection Jubaji your "opinion" is based on fear alone and countered by the opinions of everyone from trainers of working dogs, veterinarians , animal shelter employees and average everyday people who have found a love for this breed.
    They are NOT the backwards hat wearing, saggy pants, wanna-be thugs that people like YOU Jubaji and your media educated sycophants would have us believe are the only people who would want to own a pitbull.

    Like I said must be nice to paint the world with such broad generalizations, makes for less thinking and helps make it easy to be always right.

    So send PETA some $$ Jubaji they need more fanatics like you in the ranks of the fearfully ignorant.

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    • Originally posted by GonzoStyles
      I am done with this thread, my point has been made, .

      You were done from the very beginning.

      You have never had a point at all.

      You have exhibited nothing but empty emotionalism and personal anecdotes in the face of actual scientific data that demonstrates quite clearly that some breeds are more dangerous than others. The fact that idiots like you encourage bigger idiots like GQchris to get dogs that are not a good choice for a pet inevitably results in unfortunate incidents where people may be hurt, children killed, and dogs destroyed. How many dogs have been put down because people like you encourage idiots to get dogs they later realize (or are forced to realize) were not good choices for pets? How many of those dogs are immediately destroyed or die in shelters? How many of the children killed in dog attacks would have lived if people made more reasonable choices in getting a pet?


      YOU are part of the problem

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      • Originally posted by Tant01
        They wear dark sunglasses, backward ball caps, sleeveless t-shirts and have the barbedwire tattoos and haircuts to intimidate "normal" folks...
        Sounds like every martial artist I know!

        It's the baggy pants I have a problem with.

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        • I've raised APB's for 10 years and have never been bitten by one, except in play. They are the most intelligent, mischievious, and loving dogs I've been exposed to. I have been bitten by Chow's, Dalmations, and GSD's while volunteering at the kennel. Heres my current Pup with my family.
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          • how many times do I have to say it?

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            • boobaji... the only idiot here is you that can't see past what makes for great news headlines... everything you've posted has not convinced me or changed my mind, but it has only convinced me that you're still an opinionated asshole that lets the media make your decisions for you.

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              • Originally posted by jubaji
                You were done from the very beginning.

                You have never had a point at all.

                You have exhibited nothing but empty emotionalism and personal anecdotes in the face of actual scientific data that demonstrates quite clearly that some breeds are more dangerous than others. The fact that idiots like you encourage bigger idiots like GQchris to get dogs that are not a good choice for a pet inevitably results in unfortunate incidents where people may be hurt, children killed, and dogs destroyed. How many dogs have been put down because people like you encourage idiots to get dogs they later realize (or are forced to realize) were not good choices for pets? How many of those dogs are immediately destroyed or die in shelters? How many of the children killed in dog attacks would have lived if people made more reasonable choices in getting a pet?


                YOU are part of the problem




                Jubaji: 1,406,734,221.2

                Pro 'big dangerous dogs just because they look cool' folks: 3







                (sorry I never got back to the research, but it's looks like ju-ju et. al. have taken care of it for me.)

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                • and another





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                  • Wrong breed Jubaji.

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                    • Originally posted by Tant01
                      Wrong breed Jubaji.



                      My point (and I've repeated this many times now) is that some breeds are more dangerous than others and are therefore a stupid choice of pet.

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                      • Originally posted by jubaji View Post
                        in the face of actual scientific data that demonstrates quite clearly that some breeds are more dangerous than others.

                        Just wanted to update this thread, for one the "scientific data" gathered by the CDC has been debunked as the sole source for information gathered regarding dog attacks was from the media reports with many cases of breed misidentification documented.

                        Second, many areas that instituted breed specific legislation against pitbulls have rescinded it, this includes places like the Netherlands which had BSL in place for over 10 years with no reduction in dog attacks.

                        11 June 2008
                        Dutch Agriculture Minister scraps pit bull ban < Dutch news | Expatica The Netherlands

                        "THE NETHERLANDS - Dutch Agriculture Minister Gerda Verburg has announced she will scrap the ban on owning and breeding pit bull terriers and related breeds.

                        The ban was introduced in 1993 after three children were bitten to death by pit bull terriers. The ban allowed police to seize dogs and have them put down purely on the basis of their appearance.

                        The minister has decided to scrap the ban because it has not led to a reduction in the number of biting incidents.

                        Verburg wants to introduce a new measure in which dogs are judged by their behaviour rather than breed. She also wants to increase the information provided to dog owners."


                        And finally, with people like dog psychologist Cesar Milan using pitbulls as his primary helpers in rehabilitating anti-social dogs and 2 syndicated tv programs that focus on pitbull specific rescues, the truth about this much maligned breed is making headway against myth and fear.

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                        • Tell us a little something about your dog Tanto!!

                          You are making me want to foster again!

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                            • Originally posted by jubaji View Post
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                              Thats your best reply in the thread so far

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                              • good stuff... things I knew all along from the friendly Pit Bulls I've been around..

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