Christians vs Atheist?

[DickHardman]

the ufo thing is real. it has already been confirmed multiple times by members of our government, and they have already been filmed multiple times by our governments own cameras. if you saw the proof with your own eyes would you believe it?

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpK5a5l8Y58[/YOUTUBE]


what explanations do you guys have for these??? this is all footage from nasa cameras.

they are here! they want to make contact with us. they are obviously friendly!

[jubaji]

the ufo thing is real. they are here! they want to make contact with us. they are obviously friendly!

If any proof was needed of the damaging effects of getting baked all the time...

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

If any proof was needed of the damaging effects of getting baked all the time...

Dude, Jubaji, aliens do exist(obviously) and they have visited Earth. Do some research. Its not just Emptyness that believes it.

[jubaji]

Dude, Jubaji, aliens do exist(obviously) and they have visited Earth. Do some research. Its not just Emptyness that believes it.

Hey duuuude, Bigfoot exists too! Like, really! Do some research! Lots of people really, really believe it. True, I can't show you an actual Bigfoot, and no one else can either, but a lot of people say so and...and...there are lots of websites 'n stuff!

[DickHardman]

True, I can't show you an actual Bigfoot, and no one else can either, but a lot of people say so and...and...there are lots of websites 'n stuff!

big foot wasnt repeatedly captured on usa government cameras though was he? he also didnt have members of our government and armed forces with incredible credentials vouching for his existence.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

Hey duuuude, Bigfoot exists too! Like, really! Do some research! Lots of people really, really believe it. True, I can't show you an actual Bigfoot, and no one else can either, but a lot of people say so and...and...there are lots of websites 'n stuff!

lmao. Big Foot is a joke. That was a low blow for you to even bring that up.


So are you saying that in our galaxy, there is no other advanced civilization besides ourselves?

[Uke]

Yeah, that sure was an interesting picture. What were all those colorful flags in the background? Do you know?

Of course I do. They were flags of Iran, Iraq, Jordan and other countries in that region who have had differences but came together to oppose bullshit when they see it. Unlike you I don't discuss things that I don't know about.

Do you know anything about that? You sure haven't demonstrated it. And most people here thought Israel was some ancient nation, not a country only 10 years older than Hawaii's statehood.

Idiots like you are a dime a dozen. Its people like you that supported McCarthyism and began pointing fingers and yelling "communist!" at anyone who spoke up against the crap. You're the same kind of lowlife who shouts "anti-semitism" when thousands of people of the Judaic faith stand up and protest the injustice that took place in Canaan 59 years ago. And now you're the same pathetic filth that calls people "unpatriotic" when they publicly dissent and challenge Bush and his war mongering. Basically, you're the same waste of time that you are on the martial arts forum except for there you aren't a closet bigot who looks to create and fuel racial and religious tension.

[The_Judo_Jibboo]

if there are ufos they weren't in that vid. that guy was ridiculous, saying that those streaking objects were ufos. there were several of them in the span of a few minutes. if our skies were swarming with ufos every 4th grader with a telescope would know it.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

if there are ufos they weren't in that vid. that guy was ridiculous, saying that those streaking objects were ufos. there were several of them in the span of a few minutes. if our skies were swarming with ufos every 4th grader with a telescope would know it.

Watch this. Itll change your mind, i guarantee it.

And what happened to Jubaji? He was replying to this thread for like 20 minutes and then all of a sudden he logged off. I hope he's okay.

[jubaji]

So are you saying that in our galaxy, there is no other advanced civilization besides ourselves?

I'm in the same position vis-a-vis that question as you. I don't know.



Is there other life on other planets in the universe? Seems likely.

Is there other intelligent life? Far less certain. Of all the myriad life on this planet, only one has ever developed intelligence as far as we know (and its nothing to write home about anyway).

If there is other intelligent life, is it more intelligent, more developed than us? There's another step away from certainty.

If there is other life and if it is intelligent and if it is more intelligent and developed, have they taken to traveling space? Another step away.

If there is other life and if it is intelligent and if it is more intelligent and developed, and if they taken to traveling space, are they so advanced and so inclined to travel as far as this? Another step.

If there is other life and if it is intelligent and if it is more intelligent and developed, and if they taken to traveling space, and if they so advanced and so inclined to travel as far as this, are they likely to be looking for or to just happen upon us over here? Several more steps.

If there is other life and if it is intelligent and if it is more intelligent and developed, and if they taken to traveling space, and if they so advanced and so inclined to travel as far as this, and if they were looking for or to just happened upon us over here, they wouldn't bother after all that shit to stop and unambiguously say hello to anyone but drunken farmers and mental patients with anal fixations? A thousand miles of more steps.


And on and on and on a million more steps than this. You have something there is no (real, tangible, verifiable) proof of existing, and you have people who want to believe it exists. What do you think is gonna happen?






Which brings us back to the topic of this thread. Faith is an integral part of the human consciousness. When the modern secularizing world demonizes and shames that essential element of what we are, that energy (which previously had been used to express the human condition in complex, fascinating, and beautiful ways and, under the best conditions, to guide our behavior toward each other) finds an outlet in the dreams and delusions of fools and madmen. If there is a higher and a lower order of faith, only one is deemed acceptable in today's society.

[The_Judo_Jibboo]

And most people here thought Israel was some ancient nation, not a country only 10 years older than Hawaii's statehood.

not the same nation as it is today, or even a nation really as we think of nations. but it was the ancient homeland of the jews. the Romans renamed the place Palestine as a little "up yours" to the jews because Palestine is just latin for Phillistine.

the whole thing is too messy to take sides, no one's hands are clean of blood in this issue.

[The_Judo_Jibboo]

Which brings us back to the topic of this thread. Faith is an integral part of the human consciousness. When the modern secularizing world demonizes and shames that essential element of what we are, that energy (which previously had been used to express the human condition in complex, fascinating, and beautiful ways and, under the best conditions, to guide our behavior toward each other) finds an outlet in the dreams and delusions of fools and madmen. If there is a higher and a lower order of faith, only one is deemed acceptable in today's society.

Bravo!


that'll have to do for now, i can't pos rep you again so soon

[jubaji]

Of course I do. They were flags of Iran, Iraq, Jordan and other countries in that region who have had differences but came together to oppose bullshit when they see it. Unlike you I don't discuss things that I don't know about.

Oh no? Are you sure? Because the flags of Iraq and Jordan were not in that photo. Iran (home central of official Holocaust denial) is on the far left, and there are many Palestinian flags that you failed to mention. So it seems that you do discuss things you don't know about, which is consistent with just about everything you've ever said here.

[jubaji]

And most people here thought Israel was some ancient nation, not a country only 10 years older than Hawaii's statehood.

Don't try to paint "most people" with your idiocy, adolf.

[jubaji]

And what happened to Jubaji? He was replying to this thread for like 20 minutes and then all of a sudden he logged off. I hope he's okay.

Thank you for your concern. I do have to pretend to work a little from time to time and it occaisionally gets in the way of my important contributions here.