Senator Obama VS Senator Clinton

[jubaji]

Take Booosh, for example. I would rather drink a beer with Booosh I may like personally Booosh, as a person,

Is there a reason why you feel the need to continue to ridicule the way that Latinos may pronounce the English language? Are you some kind of bigot?

[jubaji]

[*]Lack of an energy policy is a financial burden. (Jan 2008).

More empty sloganeering that has been repeated by near everyone on both sides of the aisle since the 70s.


A great thing to roar into the mic at a rally; not so simple to actually do (for so many reasons).

[jubaji]

[*]Save $150 billion in tax cuts for people who don't need them. (Dec 2007)

= unless you are living in a cardboard box, your taxes are about to go up.

[jubaji]

[*]Take China "to the mat" about currency manipulation. (Dec 2007)

Classic empty rhetoric. 'Take them to the mat!' means nothing, and every politician knows it.

[Ghost]

= unless you are living in a cardboard box, your taxes are about to go up.

well yours might...mine wont

lol im going to come back to this thread later, its awe inspiringly tiring and i simply dont have the motivation for it most of the time, probably would if it was the UK election.
will post again though soon enough.

[jubaji]

[*]Bush's economic policies are not working. (May 2004).

For 2004:

http://www.xist.org/charts/ec_gdp1.aspx

[jubaji]

Bringing Our Troops Home
Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months. Obama will make it clear that we will not build any permanent bases in Iraq. He will keep some troops in Iraq to protect our embassy and diplomats; if al Qaeda attempts to build a base within Iraq, he will keep troops in Iraq or elsewhere in the region to carry out targeted strikes on al Qaeda..

I think only Mike has the patience to point out to you all of the contradictions and irrationalities inherent in that little turn of phrase.

[DickHardman]

probably would if it was the UK election.

it is your election as well. you just dont get to vote. neither do i though. so were all in the same boat really.

[Ghost]

I think only Mike has the patience to point out to you all of the contradictions and irrationalities inherent in that little turn of phrase.

targetted strikes is different from occupation.

Al queda wont be supported when the common enemy is gone.

[Ghost]

I think the Shia militia wont tolerate them, they absolutely hate each other. They only tolerate them because the americans are there now. Al queda is estimated to amount to less than 1000 troops. They are a smaller issue, the shia militia wont tolerate them.

[Ghost]

That doesn't mean they'll leave. There are plenty of Sunni alcoves in Iraq. Lots of them, in fact. There are places that al Qaeda can and would hide. And let's not forget the multitude of new Shi'a sponsors that have managed to get over their disdain for al Qaeda and actually fund them. When you put those ingredients together, what you end up with (again, look at your own history) is competitive interests in a hotbed of violence. That can lead to anything from Civil War to all-out oppression or even genocide of a minority. Without a solid security force, a Sunni minority could well look to a group like Osama's to "protect them" from retaliation by their government majority and militias.

There are a lot of factors there to consider, but the potential for negative consequences is far greater and more likely than the potential for it to come out a net positive for us.

And none of that matters anyway, because you got this whole ECONOMY discussion going and you've neglected to address my long and information dense post about McCain's demonstrated understanding (and arguably superior execution) of fiscal policy. One point at a time! Talk about what we're talking about, then we'll move on to the war.

I know! LMAO, Mike ill be honest with you, i cant be bothered to go through the economy thing right now as it requires thought. Right now im in martial arts spamming mode. My enthusiasm for this topic goes up and down regularly, so i expect i will reply at some point in some detail, i just dont have the heart in me for it right now, sorry. It is always interesting reading your posts though, its just the mental effort required to post doesnt always come to me lol.

Just watching CNN, do you think Obama has hillary beaten?

[Ghost]

You could at least concede that my post was masterfully executed and that it's scared you off for a few days! Come on, man. Give my ego a boost! You know how shy and introverted I am. I'd do it for you.

grrr stop trying to make me answer the post, yes it was a good post, it was, but i genuinely cant be bothered to think it all the way through right now.
Ill rep you if you like but be ready for the swearing lolol
EDIT: gave you rep for it now tosser lol

[Ghost]

Yeah ive learnt a lot more too, i think id have more interest if it was a UK election and it is intensive. lol. I need a holiday.

[Ghost]

Might well take you up on that but our elections are tedious and boring in comparison to yours. i mean its nothing like what you get over there its like a soap opera over there and fun to watch on tv. In the UK they have maybe 1 debate and thats about it lol. its not much fun and the characters are often duller but perhaps very qualified.

[jubaji]

I already told you, it's a joke based on two radio hosts out here.

Not funny, you bigot.