Mr. McCain Picks a Woman for V.P. Mate

[treelizard]

That's BS! Barrack has sent 30 lawyers and investigators to Alaska to dig up dirt on Palin. That's staying above it?

She got something to hide?

[treelizard]

I am sure you did becuase anything is fair game on Palin as long as it is negative.

Oh, the poor, opressed woman can't handle any hard-pressing questions from the media! Woe is me! She should get a fainting couch!

Don't you realize that expecting a candidate to be protected from the media because of gender is SEXIST?

[jubaji]

Darrin, you need to stop watching Republican ads and taking them at face value and start looking for the truth.

LOL! Another perfectly good mind lost to the teacher's union...



...a pity

[treelizard]

I never joined the union.

[jubaji]

But apparently it has joined you, and taken complete control.

[treelizard]

snopes.com: Politics (Barack Obama)

[darrianation]

Oh, the poor, oppressed woman can't handle any hard-pressing questions from the media! Woe is me! She should get a fainting couch!

Don't you realize that expecting a candidate to be protected from the media because of gender is SEXIST?

It seems to me that you and your liberal friends are foaming at the mouths for scraps of something negative to fall from the table.

Suffice it to say both sides are guilty and no one is blameless including the media who spins things in Barracks favor.

Palin has become an extreme exercise in dirty politics and a media trying to discredit her. In fact she is all I see in the articles I read anymore and it is 99% negative or tying to be anyway. Barrack and McCain have been nearly absent in the media in comparison.

[treelizard]

But apparently it has joined you, and taken complete control.

uh....... no.

[treelizard]

In fact she is all I see in the articles I read anymore and it is 99% negative or tying to be anyway. Barrack and McCain have been nearly absent in the media in comparison.

That's because she's new to the scene.

[treelizard]

FactCheck: McCain Ad Falsifies Obama Education Record | Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008 | Newsweek.com

[treelizard]

thanks for proving my point. they both lie.

Being surpised by the tactics used to win by either side shows a lack of touch with reality.


I find it very hard to believe you were ever a follower of objectivism

I know truth often gets lost in elections but simply think McCain is sinking to a new low.

And you can check the old objectivism-l archives; it was in maybe 1995. I hung out on #geekspeak and entered the Anthem essay contest.

[darrianation]

Concerned about Palins background what about Obama?

I have done the item by item rundown on where Barrack Obama will be bad for this country in another thread. In this thread I have tried to primarily talk about the economy. But here are some facts as I see them…as imperfect as I may be.

Mast Damon is concerned because he doesn’t know who Palin is. Another valid question is who is Barrack Obama.

As for Palin Barrack Obama doesn’t like her because she reenergized John McCain’s campaign. He has sent 30 lawyers and investigators from his smear machine to Alaska to dig up dirt on her. ‘Change”? Sounds like the same old politics to me.

Liberals don’t like her because they are threatened by strong women who aren’t afraid to take a principled stand and take on the establishment who isn’t a liberal; it is a slap in the face to the liberal’s world view so they have to find a way of discredit her.

As for Barrack: He came out of nowhere too just like Palin, only he had no executive experience, as well as no positive foreign policy experience, and very little national experience and no one knew who he was. Matt Damon most likely didn’t know who Obama was before he became a presidential candidate and doesn’t seam to mind his radical leftwing background or inexperience but he certainly is quite concerned who Palin is and her background and experience.

Who is Obama and does it matter? Folks seam to be all over Palin searching for anything in her background that can be used against her. So what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

Barrack Obama’s confidant as a young teen was family friend Frank Davis a known communist, poet and writer. He stated in his autobiography ‘Faith of our Fathers’ that Frank was a confidant and someone he went to for advice. Barrack also said he would retire to his room to do his homework and instead would read works by revolutionaries and leftist radical icons such as Frantz Fanon and Malcolm X. Obama admits he idolized Malcolm X.

He also stated he was consumed by what he felt was racism towards himself and the few African American students who attended the same private school as he did, although his best friend in high school who happens to be half African American and half Japanese denied they were ever targets of racism and he denied that Barrack ever confided in him that he felt that way as Barrack stated in his book they would smoke pot and talk about racism for hours on end.

Did Barrack grow out of his fascination with leftwing radial ideology when he went off to college in Kalifornia? No, he says he mostly hung around with the Black activists, Marxist professors and the feminists. This continued into adulthood where he joined Rev. Wright’s church which teaches ‘Black Liberation Theology’ which basically states if God is not black and for the blacks and against the white man then God must be killed. They can only accept a God who is against white people. This is a twist on ‘liberation theology’ which is a communist tactic which was used to spread communism and Marxism onto the western hemisphere (Caribbean, South and Central America).

Barrack also met Nation Of Islam’s Lois Farrakhan prior to marching in the million man march. He also had associations with Rev. Meeks, Father Phleger both leftist radicals. And there is William Ayers the leftwing terrorist who claims to have set off dozens of bombs including exploding bombs at the Pentagon and the US Capitol building. All of which most democrats would consider far left activists and radicals. These folks are also people who are ashamed of America; not proud Americans and patriots. And don’t forget Rezko Obama’s friend, associate, and convicted slumlord.

His associations and friendships with these folks and ideologies continued as he was voted the most liberal senator in the US senate, and up until the time he became a candidate for the Whitehouse and folks began finding out about these associations, then and only then, did he start to distance himself from them and their leftist ideologies.

There is an uninterrupted pattern here, from the time he was a teenager in Hawaii to the democratic primaries; he has been involved and associated with the far left, the Marxists, the radicals, and those who hate America. What I am saying here is that there is plenty of evidence to show that this is who Barrack Obama is as a private person rather than Axelrod’s carefully crafted persona of the candidate Obama. The reality is Barrack Obama is someone who is very much in moral opposition to American values and culture-- a counter patriot if you will. No wonder his past hasn’t been scrutinized and vetted as robustly as the other candidates by the national liberal media.

Do you really want a guy like this running this country?

[darrianation]

What about Obama's voting record?

Voting:

Senator Obama voted the most liberal senator in the US senate 2007:

See story: NATIONAL JOURNAL: Obama: Most Liberal Senator in 2007 (01/31/2008)

Voting recode in the US Senate:

NATIONAL JOURNAL: Key Votes Used to Calculate the Ratings (01/31/2008)

Other Key votes:

Obama’s state senate votes on some key issues:

• Voted against concealed carry for citizens
• Supports banning many common semi-automatic firearms
• Voted for disallowing self-defense in towns where guns are banned
• Voted for imposing one handgun a month restrictions
• Voted against protecting gun dealers from frivolous lawsuits
• Supprots squelching the free speech rights of gun owners
• Voted for restricting the interstate sales of firearms
• Voted against letting people argue self-defense in court if charged with violating local weapons bans by using a gun in their home.
• Successfully sponsored law enforcement study of the race of people pulled over for traffic tickets.)
• Unsuccessfully sponsored measure to expunge some criminal records and create an employment grant program for ex-criminals.
• Unsuccessfully sponsored limit of one handgun purchase per month.
• Voted against making gang members eligible for the death penalty if they kill someone to help their gang.
• Voted against restrictions on public funding of abortion.)
• He voted against requiring medical care for aborted fetuses who survive
• Unsuccessfully co-sponsored ban on discrimination based on sexual orientation. The measure became law after Obama was elected to the U.S. Senate.
• Successfully sponsored move to shield Illinois workers from federal rules that threatened overtime pay for some employees.
• Voted against giving tax credits to parents who send their children to private school.


One vote that especially riled abortion opponents involved restrictions on a type of abortion where the fetus sometimes survives, occasionally for hours. The restrictions, which never became law, included requiring the presence of a second doctor to care for the fetus.

He voted for raising taxes over 50 times. Just to name a few:

• Voted NO on repealing the Alternative Minimum Tax.
• Voted NO on supporting permanence of estate tax cuts.
• Voted NO on permanently repealing the `death tax`.
• Voted YES on $47 billion for military by repealing capital gains tax cut.
• Voted NO on retaining reduced taxes on capital gains & dividends.
• Voted NO on extending the tax cuts on capital gains and dividends.
• Voted NO on income tax credits for all full-time K-12 pupils in an amount equal to 25% of qualified education expenses up to a maximum of $500 per family.

[darrianation]

A couple of stories:

Obama supports the gun ban in the nation's capital, saying the "DC handgun law is constitutional." And he is opposed to people using guns for self-defense, when those guns are owned in localities like Washington, DC and Chicago where firearms are banned.

From a NRA article-

Illinois resident Hale DeMar was prosecuted by the town of Wilmette for using a handgun in his home to defend his family in 2003. Because Wilmette had imposed a ban on the possession of handguns, several Illinois state legislators introduced SB 2165 to protect the right of self-defense for residents like DeMar.

True to form, Obama voted against the pro-gun legislation.

It is very telling that Obama moved further to the left than most of the liberal legislators in his state. The self-defense bill protecting gun owners like DeMar passed the state senate 41-16 and was later enacted into law over the governor's veto (and over Obama's opposition).

The concealed carry of firearms is another important issue for gun owners, and yet Obama is not only opposed to citizens carrying guns, he supports using federal laws to override those states which currently allow the practice.

In 2004, Obama said he supports a national ban on concealed carry because the states that allow it are "threatening the safety of Illinois residents." Never mind the fact that concealed carry laws have improved the safety of citizens in the states that have enacted such laws.

Obama has also taken a strong position in favor of the Clinton semi-auto ban which sunset in 2004. "I believe we need to renew -- not roll back -- this common sense gun law," Obama said.

Well, there's nothing that's "common sense" about the Clinton ban. Not only did it outlaw almost 200 types of firearms, legislators like Senator Chuck Schumer of New York tried to amend the law (before it sunset) to include additional types of semi-autos -- even banning classic (wood-stock) long guns such as the Remington shotgun which Senator John Kerry received as a gift during his 2004 presidential bid.


And:

Live birth abortions:

One form of abortion that even many “pro choice” supports find particularly heinous is a form of abortion known as ‘induced labor abortion’ (AKA “live birth abortion”). In this particular procedure a doctor does not attempt to kill the baby in the uterus. The goal is simply to deliver the baby prematurely who then dies during the birth process or soon afterward, sometimes taking hours and in at least one case it took 8 hours for the baby to die.

Jill Stanek was a registered nurse in the Labor and Delivery Department at a hospital in Oak Lawn, Illinois. She testified in front of the Illinois state senate stating:

One night, a nursing co-worker was taking a Down’s syndrome baby who was aborted alive to our Soiled Utility Room because his parents did not want to hold him, and she did not have time to hold him. I could not bear the thought of this suffering child dying alone in a Soiled Utility Room, so I cradled and rocked him for the 45 minutes that he lived--After he was pronounced dead, we folded his little arms across his chest, wrapped him in a tiny shroud, and carried him to the hospital morgue where all of our dead patients are taken.

Another nurse from the same hospital also testified with Stanek in Washington. She described walking into the Soiled Utility Room on two separate occasions to find live aborted babies left naked on a scale and the metal counter. She testified about a staff worker who accidentally threw a live aborted baby in the garbage. The baby had been left on the counter of the Soiled Utility Room wrapped in a disposable towel. When a coworker realized what she had done, she started going through the trash to find the baby, and the baby fell out of the towel and onto the floor.

It is Ironic that in the state of Illinois by law requires that if an aborted baby is born alive, both birth and death certificates must be issued- an aborted baby given a birth certificate and then allowed to die intentionally?

Barrack Obama was in attendance as a senator when Jill Stanek testified and yet he remained unfazed and on three separate occasions he voted against a bill that would stop this practice of killing living babies.

When Obama was asked at what point a baby is deserving of human rights, Obama responded, “Well, I think that whether you’re looking at it from a theological perspective or a scientific perspective, answering that question with specificity, you know, is above my pay grade.”

Maybe the presidency is above his pay grade too.

[darrianation]

What Obama will do as president?

Now you know who he is what will he do…

I think liberals have their blinders on to the political realities of the real world maintaining their myopic view in spite of the plain truth in front of them.

For instance, a liberal when asked, is big government and high taxes good for this country? Will either go on about how terrible the capitalists are and not answer the question or he’ll admit that it isn’t good for this country but continue arguing why we need bigger government and higher taxes.

Now of course the liberal doesn’t want to pay those higher taxes himself he want’s someone else to pay those taxes while he enjoys paying less taxes. We all want less taxes but unless we are willing to consider the bigger picture--the rob Peter to pay Paul method can actually cause more harm.

But the fact is many liberals refuse to admit that Barrack Obama will increase the size of the government and spending over his opponent John McCain at all, or turn a blind eye to what negative effects of such huge spending will do to our economy.

Barrack is running a campaign that is riding on the wave of current economic woes…Which by the way should hurt his proposals to increase taxes which historically have proven to slow the economy through slowing capital investment.

When Obama mentions the ‘sub prime’ debacle and the current administration’s mishandling of it to score points what you need to remember is Barrack Obama has received almost $10 million in contributions from the finance insurance and real estate industries through October of 2007. Those are the same capitalist pigs the liberals hate so much and helped cause the housing crises through their recklessness.

Barrack Obama’s plan will increase taxes, increase the size of the government to the tune of 800 billion dollars in new government programs, a move that will be stifling in today’s sluggish economy if it doesn’t down right destroy it.

Here is what each candidate will spend annually in billions of dollars:

John McCain $68.5

Barrack Obama $343.6

I think you can see for yourself what the difference is and just how much more money Barrack is going to spend than McCain.

For those folks who have their eyes open to reason and logic one would see how illogical it is that we can maintain those levels of spending without causing grievous harm to our economy. It is apparent to me that the liberal would rather stick it to the rich capitalist pigs than to use common sense and reason to grow and strengthen the economy which will benefit all in this country a great deal-- but you have to be willing to look at the bigger picture.