Black Panthers using intimidation to stop white voters

[kingoftheforest]

Suprisingly, I totally agree. There is a lot more to Christianity then just tales of the supernatural. There are moral stories in there too, not dependent on whether a person believes in a supernatural occurance or not.

And what have Christians done with those moral stories in the past 500 years. Persecuted others and each other.

And all of those moral stories in the bible existed in forms long before the bible was written.

Maybe you Christians aught to spend less time telling each other how accepting you are of others and how great your religion is and take a look at what it's done to the world.

I don't see a whole lot of cheek turning or acceptance out there. All I see is Christianity being forced on people and little boys being raped.

I've only met a handful of people who act like real Christians in my life. They would tell people about Jesus and God and accept it if people didn't fall in line with them.

If all Christians acted like those people the world would be a better place.

[kingoftheforest]

Are you trying to say that African slaves in America wanted to be slaves???!

No. But I'm saying they had the ability to do something about it and chose not too.

[kingoftheforest]

If you keep calling me a hippie it still won't make it true. Same with the Wicca thing.

Your apparent stupidity at this point about religions older than Christianity is bordering on absurd.

Wicca is actually a fairly new religion, The greeks, Romans, Egyptians and Ancient Sumerian religions were around way longer. So was Taoism and most other eastern religions.

Gotta say though that you and the Muslims both worship the same God just with different names and different prophets and look at that mess.

As for I am choosing to look at the way the majority of Christians act. Well if most of you act that way then that would be the norm, and all you actual good Christians would be a minority.

I'll choose to base my information of how you people act on the majority since that signifies the norm. And if so then it's more than likely your leaders fit the norm as well.

Now could some one point me to the war that atheists started over there lack of belief in a God?


I found the Muslim and Christian version of those already.

[kingoftheforest]

That just shows how out of touch with reality you really are.

Would that be the reality of not using superior numbers to over take an enemy force of smaller size?

Or are you saying the slaves wanted to be slaves?

[jubaji]

are you fucking kidding me?

No. But I'm saying they had the ability to do something about it and chose not too.

Prisoners at just about every prison outnumber the guards by large margins. They could riot and stage mass prison-breaks everyday. I guess they want to be in prison.

[kingoftheforest]

Prisoners at just about every prison outnumber the guards by large margins. They could riot and stage mass prison-breaks everyday. I guess they want to be in prison.

No that's the barbed wire 30ft concrete walls and towers with shooter keeping them in.

So may actually feel obligated to stay, but I'm sure that's few and far between.
The slaves had access to weapons and saw slaves from other plantations at times.

They had the opportunity to set up a communications network and stage things like organized simultaneous attacks on several plantations. They had white sympathizers who helped with the underground railroad. They could have fought for their freedom.

They chose not to. Would you rather be a slave all your life, or die trying to win your freedom?

It's no different from an oppressive dictatorial government. Several nations have done it.

[kingoftheforest]

One of the keys to success was the support of the local slave population. The slaves never rebelled and instead the townspeople began to fight back against the raiders.

Looks like the majority of the slaves didn't want to try. Thanks for further proving my point.

At least Mr. Brown died fighting for his fellow man's freedom. Too bad the slaves weren't on board.

[TTEscrima]

John Brown's Raid on Harpers Ferry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Very interesting that YOU can use wikipedia and Jubaji doesn't throw a fit and make fun of you for using them as a source. Whenever I do he rips me, oh wait, now it makes sense, he just rips anything I post, guess this is just further proof he's nothing but a mongrel lap dog with an agenda.

[jubaji]

No that's the barbed wire 30ft concrete walls and towers with shooter keeping them in.

So it's difficult for them to get out and they face the threat of death in the attempt? I see. You might add that they would be hunted criminals if they did manage to get away, right?

For you to sit on your fat comfortable ass hundreds of years later and blame the African slaves for the condition of slavery they were forced into and brutally restricted to for centuries is beyond absurd and reflects not well at all on your character or intelligence.

[kingoftheforest]

So it's difficult for them to get out and they face the threat of death in the attempt? I see. You might add that they would be hunted criminals if they did manage to get away, right?

For you to sit on your fat comfortable ass hundreds of years later and blame the African slaves for the condition of slavery they were forced into and brutally restricted to for centuries is beyond absurd and reflects not well at all on your character or intelligence.

I didn't say they caused it. I said they chose not to do anything about it.

The fact that it was the most logical train of thought and not the most popular opinion that bothers you.

It doesn't matter what color people are it's a general principal. You're the only one pointing out the racial issue.

Serfs were white people in early Europe who were slaves and they eventually fought back and won a margin of freedom. Not a racial issue a human issue.

[jubaji]

guess this is just further proof he's nothing but a mongrel lap dog with an agenda.

Why would you use the word, "mongrel"?

[jubaji]

I said they chose not to do anything about it.

Which is ridiculous and offensive. We can go back to my example of the prisoners and the guards and go round and round that forever, or I could just point out that you are being a numbskull and leave it at that.

[Uke]

Even Jubaji could tell you...

Sounds like jubaji just did.

[Uke]

I didn't say they caused it. I said they chose not to do anything about it.

The fact that it was the most logical train of thought and not the most popular opinion that bothers you.

It doesn't matter what color people are it's a general principal. You're the only one pointing out the racial issue.

Serfs were white people in early Europe who were slaves and they eventually fought back and won a margin of freedom. Not a racial issue a human issue.

You still wasting your time on Stubby, the mongrel leg humper? Outside of TTescrima and Garland you do realize you're having a conversation with the same moron? Different user name for each different perspective.

I wish the other loser was still here so I could see how this recent turn of events has banged him up inside. He must have voted democrat or something because they gave him the boot and erased all his posts.

So I'll leave you guys to "debate" with the other scitzofranic.

Nice seeing yall.

[Uke]

That's pretty rich, coming from someone who posted as Dick Hardman for so long.

At what point did I ever post as anyone else? I've been Uke on every MA forum I've ever posted on. There are quite a few people here that know that. I have been pretty outspoken here so it would serve no purpose for me to have to create dual identities.

I bet you would not do it to his face

Are you high? I wouldn't say something to someone who I know only as a user name? How afraid are you in real life? Has Mike struck fear in you so deeply online that you see him as some bad ass that others might fear offline too? That's a sad world you live in. And FYI, I wasn't digging at Mike. He just happens to be a pompous blowhard who knows a bit but not as much as he pretends to, and I like exposing that fact, which I have plenty of times but a little birdie conveniently erased those posts . I actually like him when he's honest, however rare that is.

Martial art experience: Started in TKD in the 70's as my core art, and over the years have tried Kung-fu (didn't like it) Aikido (could never master breakfalling) Karate, Bujinkan and for the last 3 years have trained with a bouncer who teaches a mixture of JKD, Muay Thai, BJJ, Aikido and mostly Boxing as a core art.

So basically you can't fight. Playing musical chairs from school to school equates to a whole lot of nothing. Kung Fu takes years to become proficient at. Aikido takes even longer. Bujinkan has you suplexing ninjas. And the bouncer you've been hanging out with in the Denny's parking lot is yanking your chain. JKD is muay thai, bjj, aikido and boxing. Just ask some of the so-called JKD masters here who didn't even know that it was supposed to be formless. One of them actually said that formless meant not having prearranged forms in it. Fcuking priceless.

Demographics: Caucasian, middle class, 2nd generation European descent, on both sides of my family.

Dude, this isn't E-harmony. I don't care who you are or that you are a scorpio and like chinese food. The comment was to KOTF.

I also feel that certain people here probably deeply resent the fact that though I am a Democrat, I don't fit their blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah .

I don't care what you feel. Obama won. That's that. We don't know much about him. We don't know how well he'll perform. Like with EVERY elected official, we have to hope that he does a good job. There are no guarantees, so putting pressure on Obama as well as local congressman and governors is the only way to ensure a better America.

Everything else is bullsh!t. Of course Obama said things during his campaign that cause concern for some voters. He was campaigning and trying to appeal to both parties, conservatives and liberals. How hard is that to do? Yet he did it.

I just have to laugh at the fact that you and plenty others here are expressing such concern at the prospect of a Obama presidency, but didn't express half this much concern during the re-election of a president who let 9-11 happen, destroyed this economy and waged a police action in Iraq where there were real American casualties.

Now, if Obama doesn't fix this mess caused by the republicans, is he a bad president? He never promised to remedy all of this. He promised to unite this country and, with our help, make the necessary changes along the way. I don't like his stance on guns either, but only time will tell what decisions he'll make.

Hell, if Obama just reversed 85% of what George Bush did he'd be legendary. And I've got news for you, most Americans feel that way. For those of you who disagree with that you must not know who's coming to dinner at the White House on January 20.