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    Russia welcomes Barack Obama with deployment of nuclear-capable missiles
    The Kremlin gave Barack Obama a glacial welcome to the world stage when Dmitry Medvedev, the Russian president, ordered the deployment of nuclear-capable missiles on Nato's borders for the first time since the Cold War.


    By Adrian Blomfield in Moscow


    Russian president Dimitry Medvedev - Russia welcomes Barack Obama with deployment of nuclear-capable missiles

    Mr Medvedev said he was ordering the deployment in retaliation to a missile defence shield that the United States wants to build in central Europe Photo: AP
    Russia nuclear deployment - Russia welcomes Barack Obama with deployment of nuclear-capable missiles
    A launcher of short-range Iskander missile rides in a column of Russian military vehicles Photo: AP

    In what appeared to be a deliberate attempt to rattle the president-elect, Mr Medvedev said that short-range Iskander surface-to-surface missiles would be stationed in Russia's baltic exclave of Kaliningrad, which borders EU states Poland and Lithuania.

    Delivering his most aggressively anti-American speech yet, Mr Medvedev said he was ordering the deployment in retaliation to a missile defence shield that the United States wants to build in central Europe by 2011.

    In comments likely to unnerve the Obama camp, the Russian leader even hinted that he was prepared to use the missiles to destroy the shield, which is to be erected in Poland and the Czech Republic.

    "I have approved a new configuration for the military forces of our country," Mr Medvedev said in his first ever annual address to the two houses of the Russian parliament. "To neutralise – if necessary – the anti-missile system, an Iskander missile system will be deployed in the Kaliningrad region."

    Although the Iskander is normally equipped with conventional warheads, it can be modified to carry a nuclear payload.

    Russia has been threatening to move Iskander missiles to Kalinigrad since April last year, but until now no specific order had been given.

    Mr Medvedev's speech had been postponed twice and commentators in Moscow say it is no accident that the Kremlin decided it should be delivered on the day the United States presidential election results were announced.

    They suggested that Russia was deliberately attempting to test Mr Obama's mettle. Some analysts say that Kremlin hardliners are worried that the Democrat could seek to restore the notion of the United States as a "soft power" prepared to seek international consensus in its foreign policy.

    For Kremlin hawks, such a policy could undermine their attempts to project the US as a threat to Russian sovereignty, thus undermining the justification for the authoritarian policies of Vladimir Putin, the country's powerful prime minister.

    For much of his speech, President Medvedev, who was shoehorned into office by Mr Putin, sounded as abrasive as his predecessor at his most vituperative.

    Seeking to cast Washington as the architect of the global financial crisis, he lashed out at the "erroneous, egotistical and sometimes even dangerous decisions of some members of the global community" – the traditional euphemism for the United States.

    He also blamed the United States for August's war in the Caucasus, which saw Russia invade Georgia and destroy much of its infrastructure after the escalation of a conflict in a Moscow-backed breakaway region of the country.

    The US, Mr Medvedev said, pursued a foreign policy that was "selfish, cannot stand criticism and prefers unilateral decisions." "The conflict in the Caucasus was used as a pretext for sending Nato warships to the Black Sea and then for foisting America's anti-missile systems on Europe," he told legislators.

    The US sent naval vessels to the Black Sea after the August conflict ended to deliver humanitarian aid to Georgia. The ships have since left the area.

    Breaking with tradition, Mr Medvedev failed to congratulate senator Obama on his victory. But he did urge the president-elect to take steps to improve US-Russia relations, which he said were badly damaged.

    Ordinary Russians were sneering about the entire election, which was characterized in the frequently chauvinistic popular media as a contest between a senile grandfather and a black man of dubious credentials and intellect. American voters were portrayed as "popcorn and hamburger eating idiots" by one newspaper.

    Several tabloids incorrectly reported that the main message of Mr Obama's final campaign speech was a call on young African Americans not to let their underpants show above the waistline of the jeans.

    Many also questioned the US belief in democracy, claiming that it had plunged the world into turmoil.

    "Russia does not need this Western operetta show," the Tvoi Dyen tabloid wrote. "We realised back in 1612, there is so much more important than difference of opinion."

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    Good morning America, and congratulations on your new President Elect.

  • #2
    Looks to me like this is the very thing the shield was being built to defend against.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by kingoftheforest View Post
      Looks to me like this is the very thing the shield was being built to defend against.

      IF YOU READ IT
      You guys are sticking your missles there first and the russians are retaliating.

      What will it take for the USA to realise that you are the bad guys.
      YOU are the ones putting the missiles on RUSSIAS border.
      What do you expect them to do?
      sit there and take it up the ass?

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      • #4
        Neville speaks again....

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        • #5
          I suppose you are referring to chamberlain, in this case there really isnt a threat though is there. Other than the USA.

          Mr Medvedev said he was ordering the deployment in retaliation to a missile defence shield that the United States wants to build in central Europe by 2011.

          pretty clear to me and id be doing the same.

          I dont get why some americans seem to think everyone is out to get them all the time.

          What would you do if Russia put a missile system right next to you.
          Probably Nuke the rest of the world just in case.
          So them moving missiles is hardly out of hand is it. i mean in response to you guys stacking up a missile system around them.

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          • #6
            Mr.Arieson, i dont think that everything america does is bad, i say it as to show how strongly i feel on certain points.
            America and the Uk give us most of the technological, medical breakthroughs and provide some of the best in terms of modern culture in terms of literature and art.

            My point is to realise that in these cases of international affairs we are more often than not the paranoid ones that are over reacting and pushing other countries into difficult positions.
            Hope thats clear.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mr. Arieson
              No, it's clear. I agree for the most part.

              I just want to send the first shot over the bow of the rest of the world, when I say that I think things are going to change. Narrow-mindedness will never be eradicated. A generation of new home-schooled kids who don't know that Africa is a continent, not a country, will eventually procreate. But though some things will always stay the same, America will eventually be the world leaders again. I am confident of that. This nation has a special thing going for it, and you can say it's been God Blessed, and that's why. But this nation has many resourceful and inventive people (no, don't worry, a Dem in the White House will not put a stop to that) who will continue to invent and create and shine.

              We put a man on the moon with the most god-awfully lame technology, and did it safely and succesfully. That's about the hardest thing anyone can do. And we did it. Not England, not Russia, not Eurpope or Asia. Us. Americans.

              I just hope and pray that we always move that direction.

              After this election my hope is restored, i expect great things of your country and i know you have the people and means to do it.
              rock on.

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              • #8
                Ghost-lad is officially an idiot.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TTEscrima View Post
                  Russia welcomes Barack Obama with deployment of nuclear-capable missiles
                  The Kremlin gave Barack Obama a glacial welcome to the world stage when Dmitry Medvedev, the Russian president, ordered the deployment of nuclear-capable missiles on Nato's borders for the first time since the Cold War.


                  By Adrian Blomfield in Moscow


                  Russian president Dimitry Medvedev - Russia welcomes Barack Obama with deployment of nuclear-capable missiles

                  Mr Medvedev said he was ordering the deployment in retaliation to a missile defence shield that the United States wants to build in central Europe Photo: AP
                  Russia nuclear deployment - Russia welcomes Barack Obama with deployment of nuclear-capable missiles
                  A launcher of short-range Iskander missile rides in a column of Russian military vehicles Photo: AP

                  In what appeared to be a deliberate attempt to rattle the president-elect, Mr Medvedev said that short-range Iskander surface-to-surface missiles would be stationed in Russia's baltic exclave of Kaliningrad, which borders EU states Poland and Lithuania.

                  Delivering his most aggressively anti-American speech yet, Mr Medvedev said he was ordering the deployment in retaliation to a missile defence shield that the United States wants to build in central Europe by 2011.

                  In comments likely to unnerve the Obama camp, the Russian leader even hinted that he was prepared to use the missiles to destroy the shield, which is to be erected in Poland and the Czech Republic.

                  "I have approved a new configuration for the military forces of our country," Mr Medvedev said in his first ever annual address to the two houses of the Russian parliament. "To neutralise – if necessary – the anti-missile system, an Iskander missile system will be deployed in the Kaliningrad region."

                  Although the Iskander is normally equipped with conventional warheads, it can be modified to carry a nuclear payload.

                  Russia has been threatening to move Iskander missiles to Kalinigrad since April last year, but until now no specific order had been given.

                  Mr Medvedev's speech had been postponed twice and commentators in Moscow say it is no accident that the Kremlin decided it should be delivered on the day the United States presidential election results were announced.

                  They suggested that Russia was deliberately attempting to test Mr Obama's mettle. Some analysts say that Kremlin hardliners are worried that the Democrat could seek to restore the notion of the United States as a "soft power" prepared to seek international consensus in its foreign policy.

                  For Kremlin hawks, such a policy could undermine their attempts to project the US as a threat to Russian sovereignty, thus undermining the justification for the authoritarian policies of Vladimir Putin, the country's powerful prime minister.

                  For much of his speech, President Medvedev, who was shoehorned into office by Mr Putin, sounded as abrasive as his predecessor at his most vituperative.

                  Seeking to cast Washington as the architect of the global financial crisis, he lashed out at the "erroneous, egotistical and sometimes even dangerous decisions of some members of the global community" – the traditional euphemism for the United States.

                  He also blamed the United States for August's war in the Caucasus, which saw Russia invade Georgia and destroy much of its infrastructure after the escalation of a conflict in a Moscow-backed breakaway region of the country.

                  The US, Mr Medvedev said, pursued a foreign policy that was "selfish, cannot stand criticism and prefers unilateral decisions." "The conflict in the Caucasus was used as a pretext for sending Nato warships to the Black Sea and then for foisting America's anti-missile systems on Europe," he told legislators.

                  The US sent naval vessels to the Black Sea after the August conflict ended to deliver humanitarian aid to Georgia. The ships have since left the area.

                  Breaking with tradition, Mr Medvedev failed to congratulate senator Obama on his victory. But he did urge the president-elect to take steps to improve US-Russia relations, which he said were badly damaged.

                  Ordinary Russians were sneering about the entire election, which was characterized in the frequently chauvinistic popular media as a contest between a senile grandfather and a black man of dubious credentials and intellect. American voters were portrayed as "popcorn and hamburger eating idiots" by one newspaper.

                  Several tabloids incorrectly reported that the main message of Mr Obama's final campaign speech was a call on young African Americans not to let their underpants show above the waistline of the jeans.

                  Many also questioned the US belief in democracy, claiming that it had plunged the world into turmoil.

                  "Russia does not need this Western operetta show," the Tvoi Dyen tabloid wrote. "We realised back in 1612, there is so much more important than difference of opinion."

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                  Good morning America, and congratulations on your new President Elect.
                  Rumor has it that Robert Gates may be staying on as Secretary of Defense. Barack is no dummy, he will surround himself with the best minds to do the job. Not only that, but he has all that Brass at the Pentagon to tell him what to do about the Russians and their Missles.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Hardball View Post
                    Not only that, but he has all that Brass at the Pentagon to tell him what to do about the Russians and their Missles.
                    Perhaps the Russians are counting on the word of the President elect to try to reduce the number of nuclear weapons between the two countries.

                    If that's truly his intent, then there is no way he would put missiles in a place that required a response from the Russians.

                    When you enter into the "anti-anti" missile game (exactly where this is headed) its only a matter of time before you enter the "anti-anti-anti missile" and "First Strike" scenarios insuring an increase in spending on weapons from both sides.

                    Now on the bright side, this could work out VERY well for the people who make the tools of war in a time when the President Elect has sworn to end the two current moneymakers.

                    I guess this really is his first test, he made quite a few promises, to change things, lets see if this game is one of the things he really wants to change.
                    Last edited by TTEscrima; 11-07-2008, 06:30 PM.

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                    • #11
                      You will see a new era of friendly relations with Russia now.
                      Obama will talk to medyedev and take him up on his speech where he asks america to be friends.

                      Yes things really can be this simple.

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                      • #12
                        I'm afraid things are a lot more complicated than that Ghost. First of all The Pres only has limited power, It's the Good Ole Boys behind the scenes who will really be calling the shots. As much as I like Obama, I'm afraid hes just another politician who made a lot of promises to get elected. Just look at his cabinet picks and prospects, not much change--more of the good ole boys. LOL

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Hardball View Post
                          I'm afraid things are a lot more complicated than that Ghost. First of all The Pres only has limited power, It's the Good Ole Boys behind the scenes who will really be calling the shots.
                          The face the public gets to see changes but the people whispering in the Presidents ear from the shadows remain the same. Many of the advisers will be the same ones who've been around since before the Bush reign began.

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