how old are you?

[Ghost]

All locks are breaks.

yeah i guess they would have to be wouldnt they otherwise youd have to let them go lol, which wouldnt really help.

[treelizard]

cool, are you going to try them out in sparring, if you have success post it up in this thread

Will do. Roy Dean is amazing. He manages to take this aikido stuff which seems completely ineffective and show you how to make it work against resistance. He rocks. I'll post the review soon.

[Ghost]

Will do. Roy Dean is amazing. He manages to take this aikido stuff which seems completely ineffective and show you how to make it work against resistance. He rocks. I'll post the review soon.

IF it works, an i mean against fully resisting people that arent his students.
then im very impressed.

[treelizard]

IF it works, an i mean against fully resisting people that arent his students.
then im very impressed.

You should watch it. I was dreading watching it because I thought the techniques wouldn't work but the way he sets them up it'd be hard to get them NOT to work. Like he'd set up a triangle and before sinking it in he'd go for a wrist lock when least expected. He also showed competition footage of his first no-gi match in which the OTHER guy tried a wrist lock on him. He was like, "that's my trick!" He still won, but he kinda sold me to the idea that people do try to use this shit in competition.

[Ghost]

You should watch it. I was dreading watching it because I thought the techniques wouldn't work but the way he sets them up it'd be hard to get them NOT to work. Like he'd set up a triangle and before sinking it in he'd go for a wrist lock when least expected. He also showed competition footage of his first no-gi match in which the OTHER guy tried a wrist lock on him. He was like, "that's my trick!" He still won, but he kinda sold me to the idea that people do try to use this shit in competition.

i might well grab a copy of that, i saw a few clips on youtube and he does seem very good as a teacher, articulate and its all very clear and he knows his stuff.

looking forward to the dvd now.

[Tom Yum]

Eleventy-Seventy.

[Garland]

a few weeks past 23...

[aseepish]

Thirty-three, which means I have to AVOID being like Bruce Lee.

I also have to avoid being like Bon Scott, Sam Cooke, John Belushi, and Chris Farley.

Oh yeah, and that Jesus guy too.

[Tom Yum]

Didn't Chris Farley & John Belushi use drugs?

[Uke]

Will do. Roy Dean is amazing. He manages to take this aikido stuff which seems completely ineffective and show you how to make it work against resistance. He rocks. I'll post the review soon.

I gotta tell ya ... its hilarious reading that on this forum. For so long I talked about other forms of jujitsu other than newaza and had to argue for every single post. It seemed that if you wrote about anything other than MMA or BJJ you had to go through battle after battle.

I guess it took the forum becoming so dead that you can see a tumble weed blow by anytime you visit for others to consider that God may not fight in the octagon, and that there might actually be martial arts that are worthwhile learning that were created before Bruce Lee made movies or before a Gracie made an "anything goes" tournament that actually had rules(UFC).

I've seen Roy Dean, and I have to laugh because what he shows is so basic and so rudimentary. And I'm not picking on you Treelizard, but you sound so amazed as if you've discovered aikido that works!

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm glad that people are going out or even at least watching Youtube and dvds to see for themselves that things outside of what is considered "cool" on this board at the moment works and works well.

I never thought I'd see the day that someone other than Hardball, TTE, and myself would be talking about aikido. And just so you know, this isn't just about aikido. There are many, many other schools of combat that I have studied and endorse. My point is that there is more out there. I hope you enjoy the dvd's and continue to look outside the box and see for yourself the many great styles out there.

Good luck

[Tant01]

Phui...

.....
I never thought I'd see the day that someone other than Hardball, TTE, and myself would be talking about aikido. And just so you know, this isn't just about aikido. There are many, many other schools of combat that I have studied and endorse. My point is that there is more out there. I hope you enjoy the dvd's and continue to look outside the box and see for yourself the many great styles out there.

Good luck

Oh? We are so blessed to have your vast experience and opinions here to read...

[Tant01]

..........forty something...

[Tom Yum]

I gotta tell ya ... its hilarious reading that on this forum. For so long I talked about other forms of jujitsu other than newaza and had to argue for every single post. It seemed that if you wrote about anything other than MMA or BJJ you had to go through battle after battle.

I guess it took the forum becoming so dead that you can see a tumble weed blow by anytime you visit for others to consider that God may not fight in the octagon, and that there might actually be martial arts that are worthwhile learning that were created before Bruce Lee made movies or before a Gracie made an "anything goes" tournament that actually had rules(UFC).

I've seen Roy Dean, and I have to laugh because what he shows is so basic and so rudimentary. And I'm not picking on you Treelizard, but you sound so amazed as if you've discovered aikido that works!

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm glad that people are going out or even at least watching Youtube and dvds to see for themselves that things outside of what is considered "cool" on this board at the moment works and works well.

I never thought I'd see the day that someone other than Hardball, TTE, and myself would be talking about aikido. And just so you know, this isn't just about aikido. There are many, many other schools of combat that I have studied and endorse. My point is that there is more out there. I hope you enjoy the dvd's and continue to look outside the box and see for yourself the many great styles out there.

Good luck

I believe that TMA's are certainly note worthy. Why? Because I've seen/studied/observed traditional martial artists who could put there art to work on the street, sometimes in the ring and even more importantly - in the battlefield.

More importantly, I've had my ass handed to me by traditional karate masters, judoka and even from exotic styles like pukulan tjimande. These guys were very skilled, mastered timing and had control beyond belief - and none of them looked anything like the athletic build you see in MMA. Take Paul Vunak for instance (I know, not TMA but not MMA) the man is slender and fit, not the most intimidating in terms of size or strength, but deadly.

Read the recent article about Pelligrini's Modern Hapkido being used by operatives working for USN ONI. As a former traditional Korean MAist, I was glad to see this article.

Here's a few survey-type threads or discussions that I thought were interesting or pertinent to TMA.

Gongfu used in real combat

http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/chinese-martial-arts/27110-gong-fu-used-combat.html

Survey of Hwarangdo grappling/weapons

http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/korean-martial-arts/23747-hwarangdo-takedown-video.html

Traditional Chinese Martial arts (2007)

http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/chinese-martial-arts/25714-traditional-chinese-martial-arts.html

The Martial Arts of India

http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/mixed-martial-arts-mma-bjj-forum/24591-martial-arts-india.html

Modern Full-contact Karate

http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/japanese-martial-arts/19332-modern-full-contact-karate.html

Revitalization of TMAs (dated may 2005)

http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/mixed-martial-arts-mma-bjj-forum/15636-revitalization-tma.html

Boxing & Traditional MAs

http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/boxing-discussion-forum/19059-boxing-traditional-mas.html

MMA is certainly not the be all, end all of martial arts. If its served any purpose, its made us rethink what will or will not work in spontaneous, real-time environments. The tactics of the sport itself make for reliable empty-handed self defense for the average joe.

And whatever happend to Chrisdavis? I miss his contributions. As I remember, he was in a career transition and spent some time bouncing. His styles were internal chinese arts, shuajiao and aikido.

[treelizard]

Uke, I did wado ryu karate for 7 years and it didn't help me on the street. Then trained in FMA which may be effective for some people but wasn't for me. In fact the FMA (and teeny bit of JKD and silat) and tons of WSD I did did NOT work when I met guys who had trained in MMA or even just boxing/wrestling. The only reason his aikido works is because he has adapted it while training against resisting opponents. ANYthing works if you add it to alive arts like BJJ, Muay Thai or boxing. And this doesn't have anything to do with being "cool" or "agreeing with the board"--if I was interested in that I wouldn't have posted about Obama.

Honestly there is so much I need to work on to improve my own game that I probably wouldn't waste much time on arts that don't work (or that you have to adapt so heavily to get to work.)

[jubaji]

A-holes like pUke and TTExcrement keep coming back to this board to tell everyone how much they dislike this board. You would think...