America and Britain.

[CHOKE UK]

The funny thing is we brits look up to the usa in most ways,
if the truth be known !

[Tom Yum]

and the reverse is true with that classic british accent. American chicks dig it.

[CHOKE UK]

Whats has happened,
Us all being nice to each other for a change........
has good prevailed over evil at last ?

LOL.............harmony rules!

[Tom Yum]

Nahh, someone is going somewhere with this; it'll be back to normal soon is my guess.

[Great Sage]

Yeah, let's not get too mushy here before things get out of hand... Say, did anyone kick someone in the head lately?

[tkdkid]

what the hell u talking about?...no country's greater than another...ur sense of arrogance makes me laugh Ghost.

[Tom Yum]

Hey TKD kid,

This thread is a non-martial arts thread started on a political topic with a hidden agenda.

Anyhow, how is your training?

[Toudiyama[NL]]

Tom yum:
Why would I be jealous if we here do have all these things?
No "patat oorlog" or pindasauce either.
I am jealous that the US manage to trick fellow dutchman Bas Rutten to live there instead of in the Netherlands

N I didn't know Applepie was, I know copperwire was a joint dutch/scottish invention

Personally I think the US is to diverse to talk about it as one country
they do have some of the funiest laws around though

As for Britain well for some of the anti traditionalist here ( don;t stick to tradition just for the sake of tradition) I can't imagine them feeling they have the "british spirit"
Let me explain, why hang onto the pound and not join the euro just because you will lose the british pound ( a feeling I see expressed a lot of times)
The british are the best documentary makers in the world, no matter what topic (anyone ever seen "the way of the warrior"series?)

From the discussions here I mist say that I get the impression that both the UK and the US are more violent than the Netherlands
Appart from the one time when I attacked the attacker of my cousin, I'v never been in a fight when I was in danceclubs on friday and saterday night nor on the way to and from it
senseless violence is on the rise tho
(probably because have the coffyshops have been closed down the last couple of years and all these guys aren't calmed down anymore )

[Tom Yum]

Tody I was joking about the olie bollen and patat oorlog. I meant no offense man. Apple pie = appel tart??



Ik vind het Nederlands heel leuk zign. Especially Doe Marr (both the band and the meaning)

[CHOKE UK]

I wouldnt say that the uk in always more violent.

But alas we are, as hitler said " a nation of shop keepers"

He should have said " a nation of pub keepers"

We do like a drink, and unfortuneately,
some people dont handle their drink very well.
These people who are in normal life quiet unassuming characters,
suddenly turn into violent and aggressive lunatics.

In some of our loca pubs their are fights frequently,
and not neccessarily with just 2 people often gang versus gang.

Drink can make a micky mouse into a raging bull.

So most chances of a fight are in pubs,
where the british dont tend to go for a drink,
but to get as pissed as you can !

Then round the night off with a kebab or a fight !

[Tom Yum]

ESPECIALLY in Leeds. Rowdy blokes they are.... if I ever see a horde of English football hooligans, I'll have to hide as not to be hanging from a lamp post by my underwear...haha!

I'm glad I don't wear Miller beer t-shirts, sneakers and baseball caps while passing thru towns like that

[CHOKE UK]

Yes beer and football can = monster violence !

Now they are street fighters !

But even some of them in normal life are quiet and unnasumming people.

But at the football match will steam into the middle of dozens of enemy thugs, have the living daylights kicked out of them ,
all because they have now earned respect from their firm (gang)?

Then they go to work monday morning as a ....................
judge,lawyer, accountant, doctor......etc?

never judge a book by its cover !

Or never judge a judge by his wig !

[Tom Yum]

Oh the whigs and the torries...jj

I know about the earning respect thing. Brits are cool about that - its not a serious thing; rather a "Do you have b@lls and guts" thing. You guys are good at building real friendships. I've met more genuine people in the UK than other places (Europe not included)

[CHOKE UK]

generally british people are very reasonable people,
but we unfortuneately have probably the worst reputation for football violence across europe.

I have witnessed this many times,
and no martial arts training is going to help you.

You could be Rickson, mario sperry etc who ever,
it wont make any difference.
Its mob rule.

After a football match,
I Once ran for a train and just got on as the doors closed.
And to my horror and whilst wearing my teams colours,
I looked up and saw the train was completely full of the opposing teams supporters, who my team had just beaten three nil......they were angry drunk, big, ugly, violent and tattooed,
and that was just the women!
All staring at me, as the whole train went dead silent !!!!!

Their eyes were glaring at me, almost burning a whole right through me,
it was only a matter of time before,
I got butchered !
So I managed to mutter
"This is a bit of an unfair fight,
So I'll tie one of my hands behind my back if you lot prefer,
to even things up a bit " !

Thank-god they all fell about laughing !

Perhaps I had a chance to win them over,
so I carried on ............with my usual baloney;
"I wouldnt mind but I ran like mad to catch this f--king train"

"when the train doors closed, it was like the gates of hell closing"
"
....."I feel like a court jester, joking to spare my life.....................Now I know what they mean when they say a comic died on stage" !

"this is not my football shirt, I exchanged shirts at the end of the game, like the players do?"
etc.......etc.....etc.......
Luckily they were mostly pissed-up and had good sences of humour,by the end of the journey they said that they had originally intended to play football with .........my head,
but ended up offering me cans of beer and having a really good laugh"

The tongue is mightier than the fist !

[Tom Yum]

Agreed. During my visit to the UK I use my chameleon like ability to blend in and therefore avoid the hooligans from making me into a scarecrow.