America and Britain.

[Ghost]

Yes i have a great deal of respect for Americans but i hate GWB as well and i was so pro-war with Iraq before.

Its such a waste of life.

Can you imagine what they went through, one good thing is that Sadam has gone but i cant belive the mess we (Britain and USA) have left behind with no end to chaos in sight. Does any one know what the plan is. The only plan i have heard so far have been with regard to oil.

[Toudiyama[NL]]

Originally posted by Ghost
Yes i have a great deal of respect for Americans but i hate GWB as well and i was so pro-war with Iraq before.

Its such a waste of life.

Can you imagine what they went through, one good thing is that Sadam has gone but i cant belive the mess we (Britain and USA) have left behind with no end to chaos in sight. Does any one know what the plan is. The only plan i have heard so far have been with regard to oil.

Another nice one was that Us covernement sez they should decide who will do the rebuilding because they are paying it
then they say they will use the profits of the oil to pay for the re-building, so the US doesn't pay anything but still decides

It's not even clear if the soldiers are being attacked by sadam loyalists or by the islamists

[falcon3624]

Yea, well despite what everyone "thinks" about G.W. he did the right thing in my mind. I think some of the problem in the U.S. is all these hippies have to much right to there opinion. As far as the democrats go they are about as close to a communist as you can get (especially the liberals). All they are concerned with is taking all my money and giving it to some asshole that doesn't want to get a job, but is still buying more groceries than me and gets to sit around all day playing playstation 2 and getting drunk. Now how the hell is that fair??? If you ask me most of the problems come from the liberal democrats.

[Ghost]

I dont have a problem with republicans just GWB.

I respect your opinions and you are right to be loyal and stand up for what you belive in.
I just think sometimes its hard to see whats staring you in the face. as it has been for me.
But as time goes on i get less happy with the whole situation and it can be hard to realise that this is actually real.

[falcon3624]

And as far as the war and everything.....even if we find no WOMD and even if we never find Sadaam, would they have been better off if we just left them alone? Obviously you people have not heard the horror stories about what he did to his own people. I mean come on we did not kill all that many civilians.......we killed a lot less than he did testing his chemical weapons on his own people.

I mean how could you say that we don't know he has WOMD when he killed almost 15,000 people just a few years ago with a chemical weapon??????? How could it be that he does not have anything???? We know he has the weapons we just have to find them. I mean if you had something you did not want me to find and you knew I was coming looking for it do you not think if you had a whole country to hide it in you could not find a place that would be hard for me to find it. I had the priveledge (being sarcastic) to watch a video that was filmed in Iraq by some scientist that were doing experiments for the military.......do you want to know what the test was??? of course you do....they were testing chemical weapons on small children, women, and men to see how it would react to them. Not only did they use it on them but then they kept them alive as long as they could to run test on them.......it got to the point that there were children lying there with there skin starting to peel off and the doctors were just sitting there in there little suits peeling the skin off the kid.....sick S.O.B.'s........There were also many reports and documented cases about what Sadaam used to do to people that would not fight for him or just made him mad..........what's that you say.........he would take them and drop them in a plastic shredder....if you just didn't do anything too bad he would have you thrown in head first and you would die fast, but if you really pissed him off he would have you dropped in slowly feet first and let if chew you up peice by peice. I have read many documented cases about the things that they did over there and I honestly think they will be much better off now.

[Toudiyama[NL]]

A couple of south american dictators did the samething but they were helped by the US, the US didn't help the people but the dictator
acting as if this has been done for the iraqi people is naive
If your values change depending on who you're dealing with than your values aren't worth anything

Calling democrats close to communist tells me you don't know sheit about communism at all

btw libarals in de EU are actually rightwing ( from liberal trade)

even a democrat is more rightwing than most rightwing parties in the rest of the world (Haider and Berlusconi excluded)


95% of US national income is made by 400 people, the rest of the 260 miljon have to survive on the 5% that's left
Now let's put away with taxes on shares and options because these 400 don't make enough already

[Lizard]

Originally posted by falcon3624
Yea, well despite what everyone "thinks" about G.W. he did the right thing in my mind. I think some of the problem in the U.S. is all these hippies have to much right to there opinion. As far as the democrats go they are about as close to a communist as you can get (especially the liberals). All they are concerned with is taking all my money and giving it to some asshole that doesn't want to get a job, but is still buying more groceries than me and gets to sit around all day playing playstation 2 and getting drunk. Now how the hell is that fair??? If you ask me most of the problems come from the liberal democrats.

So you're saying that people should be free. Except hippies, they aren't allowed an opinion. Toudiyama is right there is almost no difference between the republicans and the democrats. Communism as an idea is based on the idea that everyone is equal, it may not work in reality but it's a good idea.

You served in the army and believe that it's OK to kill people if you're paid to do it, you have a fanatical loyalty to your leader (not president) and country, you blame all your problems on "hippies" and "communists" but in reality you know very little about the politics of your country.

Why do I waste my words on you?

[chris davis 200]

You served in the army and believe that it's OK to kill people if you're paid to do it, you have a fanatical loyalty to your leader (not president) and country, you blame all your problems on "hippies" and "communists" but in reality you know very little about the politics of your country.

notice something.

Change your words 'hippies' & 'communists' to 'Westerners' or some such, then you could be talking about a Taliban or iraqy soldier.

And you think your so different falcon! Change the perspective even slightly and you have the enemy that you hate so much!

Why dont you think about what your saying!!

The US have done some hugely terrible things in the past, Just cause they are good at hiding things!!!

If it hadnt been for one man our world would have been finished by now, and then his own government had him shot!! Oh But the US government is so so righteous!! Yeh Right! (kennedy)

The american people are generally great. Their government is generally not. But few governments are!

Just my two peneth worth.

[falcon3624]

Whatever. I really don't care to talk about this shit anyways. I have been arguing for the war since it started and all these ****in' hippies are just get on my nerves. And by the way I don't consider an Iraqi a hippie....to me a hippie is someone you can go up and slap in the face and they just let it go cuz they are too damn pussy to hit you back. Let me make it easier for you to understand HIPPIE=FRENCH. Do you understand now?? And the reason I hate democrats is because they are for the most part supported by the poor, unemployed (welfare cases), and gays. The republicans for the most part would like to see lower taxes while the democrats would jack them up and kill the guys like me and give all my money to some jackass that just doesn't want to get a job. Liberal democrats always want to take from the middle class and give it to the poor and it pisses me off.

[chris davis 200]

man o man you really have some personal issues you need to deal with.

So let me get this straight - you have issues with, unemployed people, Gay people, poor people, hippies, communists, muslims, iraqi's etc etc.

N you think you are just so so RIGHT! and yet you discriminate against everyone you have got some preconceived notion about.

You really are the sort of person that causes the problems in this world, no better than the people you dispise so much!

Never mind, everyone grows up some time. Sure it will happen to you soon. But then again .......

[falcon3624]

Originally posted by chris davis 200
man o man you really have some personal issues you need to deal with.

So let me get this straight - you have issues with, unemployed people, Gay people, poor people, hippies, communists, muslims, iraqi's etc etc.

N you think you are just so so RIGHT! and yet you discriminate against everyone you have got some preconceived notion about.

You really are the sort of person that causes the problems in this world, no better than the people you dispise so much!

Never mind, everyone grows up some time. Sure it will happen to you soon. But then again .......

You talk about me having issues. First off I have no problem with Iraqis or muslims, all I am saying is that if I step out into a field and they start shooting at me they will die.

On the other hand though I do have a problem with unemployed people. I have a problem with people that don't have anything wrong with them that prevents them from working yet they want to sit on there ass and collect money from the government they take out of my pocket.

And yes I have a problem with gays too.........why you say........I just don't like that kind of shit..........that is one of the God given rights that I can have an opinion. I think the gays are all sick in the head and something is wrong with them. Think what you will but that's my opinion.

I'll admit that I am prejudice against gays cuz I just dont' like them and nothing is going to change that. I also admit that I don't like people that dont have, or should I say don't want jobs because I don't tolerate laziness (especially when I have to pay for it).

You can go ahead and be on welfare and hang out with your gay freinds if you want Chirs, but I just don't get down like that.

[chris davis 200]

I dont know any gays and i am not gay, i run a successful business and have never been on welfare.

so 'i dont get down like that' either.

But i do have respect for people.

Did you ever think that some people on welfare are not the spunging b****** that you automatically assume.

anyway.

Nice to hear your enlightened opinion.

[falcon3624]

Well that's good you don't have to deal with gays and you are doing well for yourself.

I don't dislike all people on welfare because some people need it. If you read back you will notice I said the one's that don't have nor want a job. If you can't work because of medical problems or something that is one thing, but just not working cuz you don't want to is not acceptable.

[Lizard]

I didn't think that there were people like falcon still alive. He's probably just some pathetic old man who wants to blame his problems on people who are already having a difficult time. Don't forget black people, the usualy vote democrat so he probably hates them too. People like him give white americans a bad reputation. Throw him out of your country.

[falcon3624]

Originally posted by Lizard
I didn't think that there were people like falcon still alive. He's probably just some pathetic old man who wants to blame his problems on people who are already having a difficult time. Don't forget black people, the usualy vote democrat so he probably hates them too. People like him give white americans a bad reputation. Throw him out of your country.

Lo fuggin L. I can tell you have never been to the U.S. cuz there are plenty of people like me still here. I am not a pathetic old man either I have my birthday on my profile so you can see I am 25yrs. old. I notice you didn't have your birthday on your profile so that tells me that you are probably an old man.......I am betting the othe way though that you are about 13. If you want me out of the country come do it yourself.