Re: Re: Re: Was ,now , and still is spirit worship.
Ugh...answer the question--why don't you just do sambo or greco-roman wrestling?
What mass bowing ceremony are you talking about? I was at a national tournament earlier this year and there was no mass bowing. I lounged around for most of the day, waited till they called my name, bowed to the guy I fought, had my match, bowed again, walked off the mat. Where was the kamiza? There was no picture of Kano anywhere to be seen. Everyone bowed to their opponent. That's it. I don't know how you run your tournaments in Minnesota, but they don't do that in Texas.
And yes, the mat has spirits. You had better bow to it or the spirits will kill you.
Dude, just go do sambo if you don't like judo rituals. End of story. Its practically the same frigging fighting style. No one is stopping you from doing sambo. Its a free country. 99.9% of judo people could care less about bowing. You and you're douchey instructor and his family and their Islamic fundamentalist students are the only ones who care. Personally if bowing means that Islamic (and Christian) fundamentalists can't do judo, fine by me. Those people are all crazy anyway. I don't want to fight a crazy person. The sort of people who bomb abortion clinics and buses and planes and whatever else are not the sort of people that ought to be learning to fight anyway.
So, **** off and do sambo. End of story. You have no argument. Fine Judo is a big Shinto cult. You don't have to do it. No one is forcing you to do judo. There are two nearly identical sports--one is a Shinto cult (according to you and your derranged buddies) and the other is not. So why not just do the one that isn't a derranged cult? ****, its so goddamned simple you ****ing douchebag.
Originally posted by kevin green
You have done that but didn't realize it . The mass bowing ceremony at the beginning is to the kamiza There is a table yes? stepping onto the mat you bow to the mat stepping off of the mat you bow once again to the mat. It has spirits(the mat).
Plus I have pictures of kids holding trophies that are Kami shrines in america. Do you bow to the mat at your school? now you know why.Do you Bow to Kano's picture .
You have done that but didn't realize it . The mass bowing ceremony at the beginning is to the kamiza There is a table yes? stepping onto the mat you bow to the mat stepping off of the mat you bow once again to the mat. It has spirits(the mat).
Plus I have pictures of kids holding trophies that are Kami shrines in america. Do you bow to the mat at your school? now you know why.Do you Bow to Kano's picture .
What mass bowing ceremony are you talking about? I was at a national tournament earlier this year and there was no mass bowing. I lounged around for most of the day, waited till they called my name, bowed to the guy I fought, had my match, bowed again, walked off the mat. Where was the kamiza? There was no picture of Kano anywhere to be seen. Everyone bowed to their opponent. That's it. I don't know how you run your tournaments in Minnesota, but they don't do that in Texas.
And yes, the mat has spirits. You had better bow to it or the spirits will kill you.

Dude, just go do sambo if you don't like judo rituals. End of story. Its practically the same frigging fighting style. No one is stopping you from doing sambo. Its a free country. 99.9% of judo people could care less about bowing. You and you're douchey instructor and his family and their Islamic fundamentalist students are the only ones who care. Personally if bowing means that Islamic (and Christian) fundamentalists can't do judo, fine by me. Those people are all crazy anyway. I don't want to fight a crazy person. The sort of people who bomb abortion clinics and buses and planes and whatever else are not the sort of people that ought to be learning to fight anyway.
So, **** off and do sambo. End of story. You have no argument. Fine Judo is a big Shinto cult. You don't have to do it. No one is forcing you to do judo. There are two nearly identical sports--one is a Shinto cult (according to you and your derranged buddies) and the other is not. So why not just do the one that isn't a derranged cult? ****, its so goddamned simple you ****ing douchebag.

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