I've seen the light

[Lizard]

"why don't you go over to normandy and piss on the gravestones in the u.s. soldiers cemetary"

erm... OK next time I'm in normandy I might try that. Thanks for the advice.

[Tom Yum]

Hey Kev, since we're discussing the negatives of religions, lets look at King Henry the VIII whom formed the Anglican church. Do you know why he created his own church? Because each of his wives (7 of them?) would not give birth to a son. Basically any woman that couldn't give him a son was executed.

Naturally this practice was not legal with any known form of European Christianity at the time, so he split and formed the Anglican Church which is the root denomination of many American denominations of Christianity.

Before any splitting, lets not forget that at one time one could buy away their sins by purchasing expensive pardons. I guess someone from the pearly gates of heaven needed a little more cash and got tired of salvation for free. The guys that sold these things invented what is today known as "Used Car Sales."

Kev, remove that thing from your eye so you can see a little more clearly

For such a hard core Christian enthusiast like yourself, you've reflected little on the history of Christianity in Europe (before our country was recognized). Instead you rely on yelling strict interpretations of the New Testament, as if your discovery of the bible last year is the worlds discovery and includes all things done in the name of Christianity.

Evangelistic Troll

[kevin green]

Yelling? If you guys admit that forced bowing is wrong I will treat you to the ULTIMATE martial art dose of reality. what do you think
I will shut up and change the subject! (for a while)

[Tom Yum]

To cut back to my first reply to your very first post: If you don't like bowing, then go to a different gym.

You have FAILED to make any rational connection between bowing and why the US olympic Judo team is not competitive.

YOU have an issue with bowing. Most people don't; its merely one formality and a relatively small price to pay so that you can learn Judo, Karate etc.

Now give me a 3 page report on the life and times of John Holmes from 1968-1976.

[kevin green]

time to stand up yourself TOM YUM

He was producing national and international Judo first place championsin the 1960's also!
Diane Peirce Miguel Tudella Chris Ringold Steve Seck Dave Burns Ann Burns Lori Harmon John Sass Jay Berthiuame. I can't remember them all! Too long ago.
Plus was training national and international wrestling champions.
I don't know if he received his black belts in SHOTOKAN karate then. Or was that after he received his juijitsu black belts. you know the ones he got out in California in the 1960s where they were so impressed by his excellant throwing skills?

HAS PRODUCED OVER 35 INDIVIDUAL FIRST PLACE NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL JUDO CHAMPIONS Taught Judo at tha University of Minnesota 40 some years.

Who are you Tom Yum and how many Judo Champions have you produced! Your'e pretty good at pointing fingers, can you walk the walk or do you just talk the talk?

[Toudiyama[NL]]

America is called the light of the world, not here, it is, never has been either, maybe in you neck of the woods

You probably think the whole world should be thankfull to the US for creating the situations they have to undo later

Or that Europeans should keep their trap shut forever since you saved us in WW II

[Lizard]

American: Europeans call us the light of the world
European: No we don't
American: But you are grateful when we saved you in WW2
European: No I'mt not. I wasn't even alive then and you did it for your own reasons anyway
American: The american fighting man (also known as Jesus) will save you all! Weeee, bad commie dictators stop making me bow!No more medication!

Guess who the american depicted here is

[kevin green]

put that in your pipe and smoke it

Originally posted by kevin green
He was producing national and international Judo first place championsin the 1960's also!
Diane Peirce Miguel Tudella Chris Ringold Steve Seck Dave Burns Ann Burns Lori Harmon John Sass Jay Berthiuame. I can't remember them all! Too long ago.
Plus was training national and international wrestling champions.
I don't know if he received his black belts in akijitsu karate then. Or was that after he received his juijitsu black belts. you know the ones he got out in California in the 1960s where they were so impressed by his excellant throwing skills?