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Originally posted by jubaji
We're not? 
Well, I'm not.
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Originally posted by gregimotis
You don't vote?Comment
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My vote didn't mean jack squat in the last election. I live in a red[neck] state. I still vote every chance I get though.Originally posted by jubaji
speaking of voting, your opinion of the BS that went down in FLA?Comment
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There's a lot of BS in FL
Originally posted by medic06
You'll have to be more specific!Comment
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talk about an understatement...Originally posted by jubajiComment
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sure you get to choose between the lesser of two evils....but the end result is just more evil...Originally posted by jubajiWe're not?
when was the last time we had a candidate you actually looked up to? Or respected? when did someone get in office and you went SWEET we finally have a good honest man more concerned with the nations health than his own personal wealth?Attached FilesComment
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oh, brother.................Originally posted by BoarSpear
When's the last time you put aside the drama-queen bit and got involved in politics if you didn't like the candidates you were seeing?Comment
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come on man, Lets see its about time for another Clinton to run...After were all disgusted with Clinton behavior (again) were gonna get Jeb Bush...
And those choices are the bright side...at least they are they EVIL we know...
I helped support Ross Perot and Bo Gritz (my dad was Gritz's campaign manager) I helped with security...after bo's kids were threatened...Ross's daughters marraige ruined by secret service helo's and death threats all around they pulled out...i have understood since then how corrupt politics really are.Comment
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Originally posted by Mike BrewerWhen's the last time any of you nominated anyone as a candidate? Went to speeches? Followed the career of a respected congressman/woman or senator? Found someone who stands for the things you believe in and supported them in their political careers? You know, there's a section on both the State Department and White House websites where any citizen can nominate someone for office. There are public speeches, local elections, and infinite numbers of opportunities on the internet to get involved in the process of electing officials and leaders. Not everyone in politics is morally bankrupt (though I'll agree, it is a remarkable majority) and it's up to an educated American populace to find and promote them.
I know what you guys are saying, and I don't entirely disagree. But it's so damned tiresome to see people complaining about the end result of a process that they refuse to participate in. Iraqis will risk death to vote in their elections, and your average patriotic American will support going to war and dying for their freedom to do it, and yet you'll play hell trying to find an American that can even tell you the name of their local Mayoral candidates, let alone the names of two or three politicians who might better represent them in the House, Senate, or elsewhere on Capitol Hill.
Here's an idea: There are a couple of years left before the next election. Do some research, find a politician or two that you think could/would make a difference for the better. There's a lady running for the Senate in Florida right now who has some good ideas (though her notion about requiring biometrics for foreign workers is a bit far-fetched). She supports gun rights, hunting, and most of the kinds of things you support, Boar, including responsible tax spending and budget cuts. She does like President Bush, so there's a possible demerit in your eyes, but the lady has potential. I'm sure there are one or two more out there someplace. Find them. Research some senatorial and congressional voting records. Find out who stands for what, and support the people you think will do this country some good. And if you don't think your vote matters, convince others to vote your way.
All I'm saying, guys, is that if it's important enough to complain about on a near daily basis, it ought to be worth getting involved in, don't you think?
(Jubaji, the "don't you think" part is largely rhetorical, as we are all aware that you try to avoid it whenever possible...
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Excellent post! (except that last part. I think that was an insult or sumtin)Comment
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Ross Perot.............great pickOriginally posted by BoarSpear
All your bitchin' and complaining and hyperbole and dramatic conspiracy theories are just hot air.
You say you were involved before, great. Get involved again. Put that energy to constructive use.Comment
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Originally posted by Mike BrewerSorry man. Couldn't resist. I'm a bad person.
I admire that quality.
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Hey, i also followed Ted Kennedys career in politics ever since he proved himself so honorable.... Mary Jo Kopechne drown while the Senator devised a cover story...We have great politicians eh? nice of Ted to go back to the party and bed and leave her to die...I follow other politicians also, wanna discuss some great american politicians?
imagine how she felt, trapped in the air pocket, sure Ted had gone for help yeah right, he didnt want to damage his career with a DUI. But letting a woman die, now that he could accept 
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more drama-queen, less relevance
So.....because Kennedy is a scumbag you therefore have to abrogate your civic responsibility?
See previous comments.Comment
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Hot air?...FU ...JR you aint ever done shit ....i didnt like RP however BO Gritz was the most highly decorated Green beret in vietnam, and one hell of a man.Originally posted by jubajiRoss Perot.............great pick
All your bitchin' and complaining and hyperbole and dramatic conspiracy theories are just hot air.
You say you were involved before, great. Get involved again. Put that energy to constructive use.
Bo wanted to prove all the lies and conspiracies. He wanted to make the POW's and the American drug dealing an issue...
...wanna play Jr?
Debunk ONE thing you claim ive said is a conspiracy, lets play...Comment
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what have you ever done, aside from making non-productive smart ass comments?Originally posted by jubajiSo.....because Kennedy is a scumbag you therefore have to abrogate your civic responsibility?
See previous comments.
whose campaign were you involved in? We already know you were never in the military. What else havent you done, but know everything about?Comment
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