Thank you Mr Bush, can I please have some lube?

[BoarSpear]

We are now living on borrowed time...It's going to be interesting having my balls glow in the dark


it seems the Bush admin sold 6 of our major ports to the United Arab Emirates for 6.8 Billion dollars....that was dirt cheap for our Natl security

Bear these facts in mind...

The UAE was one of three countries in the world to recognize the Taliban as the legitimate government of Afghanistan.

The UAE has been a key transfer point for illegal shipments of nuclear components to Iran, North Korea and Lybia.

According to the FBI, money was transferred to the 9/11 hijackers through the UAE banking system.

After 9/11, the Treasury Department reported that the UAE was not cooperating in efforts to track down Osama Bin Laden’s bank accounts

The sale means that the state-controlled Dubai Ports World will control the ports of New York, New Jersey, Baltimore, New Orleans, Miami and Philadelphia.


Wont it be great? our PORTS will now be run by Middle Eastern men, that should really help with security eh?

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1110AP_Port_Security.html

[BoarSpear]

Huh, so you guys are okay with a government that wants to let Arabs run our major ports, AND a police chief who thinks cameras inside your home is a good idea....either youre all too scared of rex 84 to speak out on the net (or "freedom of speech zones ), or you all deserve the government you get

[Sagacious Lu]

That's actually really f*!kin' scary. What possible justification could there be for something like this?

[BoarSpear]

That's actually really f*!kin' scary. What possible justification could there be for something like this?

Thats a damn good question 6.8 billion dollars isnt an acceptable price for our natl security....no amount of profit ever would be enough for someone who gave two shits about America, that ought to tell you something....

[Tant01]

Keep your friends close by. Keep your enemies closer...

Might Justify dropping Nukes on our own soil down the road...

Domestic enemies and all.

[BoarSpear]

Keep your friends close by. Keep your enemies closer...

Dont give your enemies the keys to the fort!!

[Garland]

To quote one of my "friends";

"I don't wanna know the type of man who would assfuck another guy and not give him a reach around."

bush is that type of guy...sorry.
that simple.

[GBush]

Thank you Mr Bush, can I please have some lube?

No. Ha Ha.

[BoarSpear]

No. Ha Ha.

Wow, thats the first honest reply you have ever given!! Is this a new trend? The honesty that is, Im sure the unlubricated fornication shall continue unabated.


BTW I like your new Depiction of Uncle Sam, Its quite fitting....

All Heil the Chief!!

[BoarSpear]

Quite a bit of similarity in the New uncle Sam and you Sir!!

[BoarSpear]

Post Script:

As soon as I posted my last entry, I got an e-mail alert about the issue. Well, it was about something related to the issue. The story talked about donations of over $100,000,000 dollars by the UAE to help victims of Hurricane Katrina. These donations accounted for more than 4 times the amount donated by all other nations combined, and they went to help over 100,000 US citizens recover from the disaster. While the story certainly doesn't flash a big banner saying "Money means you can trust them," it does show a history of the UAE acting like allies in times of crisis. Why, one is forced to ask, would a country willing to help 100,000 Americans in their time of need want to use the ports as a way to attack them?

Well lets see, act all genuine and friendly, help 100,000 americans and find yourself in the position to kill millions of them....seems like good poker to me....besides it only takes a handful of "bad guys" to ruin the party!! Our PORTS should be national security priority and should NEVER be sold to ANYONE!! but hey im just an old sailor....dont ask me

Shucks man Saudi probably has some spare money lying around...they're our buddies right?? maybe we oughta sell them all the airports!!

[BoarSpear]

Actually several 911 hijackers were from the U.A.E....money transfers for 911 came from there and there are links to WMD being routed through the U.A.E.

Big deal, they let us fly over....sounds like a gauranteed early warning for your friends...this IS a religious/cultural based dispute/war. The U.A.E are the same religion/culture as our enemy....why give anyone the keys to your security who has more in common with your enemies than your friends? ...oh yeah because some rich #%*@'s just made 6.8 billlion in profit....and tons more arab friends...it seems the Bush admin has quite a few of those, hell some of them are related to Osama

Note that Bush's buddies are NOW being investigated for SLAVERY of CHILDREN!! But according to Brewer Bush and Dubia is just fine...
Boy bushy sure has some fucked up friends and supporters...


Dubai's ruler accused of slavery
A child camel jockey (left) in the Gulf. Archive picture
The use of child camel jockeys is banned in Dubai
Dubai's ruler has been accused of enslaving thousands of young children for camel races in a class-action lawsuit filed in the US.

The action claims Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid al-Maktoum, his brother Hamdam and 500 others are responsible for abducting and trafficking the children.

It was filed on behalf of six unidentified parents and thousands of unnamed children.

There has been no comment on the action from the accused.

The children were said to be from Bangladesh, Sudan and southern Asia.

Once in Dubai, it is claimed that the children - some of them as young as two - were kept in poor conditions, starved (so as to keep their weight down), abused and forced to take part in a dangerous sport.

The case was filed in Miami where Sheikh Mohammed and his brother, Sheikh Hamdam bin Rashid al-Maktoum, have property.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5346430.stm

[Sagacious Lu]

Granted the UAE may cooperate with us politically, but so does Saudi Arabia. Saudi may support us publicly but it's citizens donate huge amounts of money to the Al Qaeda. I wonder, even if Dubai Ports World company just does honest business, how many of it's employees are donating some of the money they stand to make on this deal to our enemies?

[BoarSpear]

Yeah but Boar, if we went by that logic, we'd also have to round up any Americans who happened to be of Arab descent and were practicing Muslims. We'd have to round up the arabs who criticize the war efforts, and we'd have to lock them all up in a concentration camp. Those folks have plenty in common with our enemies, and some of them even have family members living in "enemy" countries right now. And yet, you're even against listening to those people's phone conversations with their home countries! You can't have it both ways, my friend. You're fond of pointing out the mistakes we've made as a nation when we govern by racist ideology - locking up the Japanese Americans in World War II, etc. - and now it would seem as though your philosophy on the matter suggests the very things you've called mistakes in the past.

From a military, economic, and political standpoint, it would seem that the UAE would be a natural ally in the Middle East since they have strong reasons to work against both Iran and Saudi in favor of US interests, and since they depend on the US for assistance in their own personal disputes with both of those countries. Also, they represent a good balance of a majority sunni citizenship with about 20% or so christian, hindu, and other religions living in relative harmony. Good working model for other governments? Especially those that are just starting out...

The UAE relied upon British and US forces to safeguard their own shipping in the 80's, so we've really had a close relationship as far as ports and shipping lanes are concerned since the Iran-Iraq war. The relationship is not new, and the nature of the relationship isn't new either. Only the geography. We run ports in their country right now, as do the British, French, and others. In fact, UAE citizens are virtually a minority in their own country because of the numbers of foreign workers in the UAE.

Also, your comment that some of the 9-11 hijackers came from the UAE is a little shallow. Timothy McVeigh came from America. Does that mean we can't trust people from his home state because they might be terrorists like him? Bad people come from all over. That doesn't, in my mind at least, justify outright racism against the rest of the populations of their home countries.

If the UAE itself, or the companies that won the bid for management of these ports are a true security risk, then I'm 100% with you on the issue. But if it's a matter of trying to use scare tactics (Watch out for the terrorist Arabs!!) or racism to frighten people into opposing anything Arab, then I have to criticize the argument from the outset. It seems to me that the people harping the most on the "Arab" card (people who use statements like "giving middle eastern men control of our ports" and "selling arabs - our enemies - control of our borders") are the ones who at the beginning of this war made a huge stink about how we were invading yet another country full of dark skinned people and trying to kill them all off. It seems to me that people are using racism as realpolitik here. First, they scream and criticize Bush for attacking Arabs. Then they scream and criticize him for not attacking them. On the one hand, they don't want war with innocent Arab countries, and they don't want us to do things that might make other arab nations enemies of the US. They think that by fighting arabs, we're "breeding more terrorists." Yet on the other hand, they advocate excluding arab countries from business dealings with te US based solely on the fact that they are Arabs! It almost seems like the very people who have so vocally condemned Bush and his administration for alienating America from the rest of the world are now his most vocal critics now that he's taking steps to improve relations with Middle Eastern countries.

Like I said, if I research the issue and find reason to consider the deal a threat to US security, I will become the most vocal opponent of the deal on this board. Right now though, superficially, I'm seeing a lot of anger thrown at Bush from people who all but suggested he do this kind of thing a year or two ago. It smells like the argument is tainted as much by political agendas and racism as practical and realistic concerns.

Gee Mike, i didnt say round them all up....but i also didnt SELL them our ports!! Rounding them up is wrong, so is selling our security to them...

All the squealing and whining about us being unfair is bullshit...Where did Osama go for medical treatment? Dubai...where is Dubia? the U.A.E....at the time Osama was being treated in the U.A.E. there were American Arrest Warrants for him...seems to me they let him go....we got 911 out of it...WHY THANK YOU U.A.E. how about THAT little detail? They are about as much our friends as the Saudi's.

And finally comparing the selling of our ports to a culture/religious group we have a history of WAR with that goes back as far as recorded history to locking up Americans of Japanese origin is nonsense, and sounds like a Bush talking point.....and your right about people expecting this kind of thing from Bush for several years now...Name a GOOD apointment to a high position or an intelligent descision he has made that AMERICA benefited from in the last 5 years....

[Sagacious Lu]

Lu, this is a lot like saying "I know the US cooperates with Great Britain publicly, but tons of people contribute lots of money to the IRA and other groups like the UVF and the UFF. I wonder how much of the money Americans make in England goes straight to their enemies?" The world cannot function on paranoia and suspicion. Sure, it needs to investigate and make educated decisions - but acting on prejudice and assumptions is not good business.

I don't think the IRA is comprable to the Al Qaeda, and I don't think you can compare Great Britain to the UAE. Jerry Adams is a far cry from Osama Bin Laden. According to a quick google search the IRA is responsible for less than 2,000 deaths over several decades, and they committed those crimes in their own country on their own turf. Even at their worst they weren't a direct threat to the USA. Sure, there is support for the IRA in England, but you're talking about the over-whelming minority of UK citizens. Can the same be said of the UAE? I'm sick of us making countries that tell us what we want to hear politically like Saudi Arabia and the UAE RICH on American dollars just so their citizens can turn around and use it to support the Al Qaeda. I think we have been way too involved in that region for way too long, and that's the source of a lot of our problems. This is just going to make things worse in that respect even if they don't use possesion of the ports to smuggle in a bomb to blow up some more Americans- and they just might