Force Recon, PNP SAF.... knife video.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

Boar, you best back off, this dude is so legit. Saying stuff like, "If you're implying the FMA/silat doesnt teach knives you're dumber than I thought possible.", just shows youre getting desperate cause he never said anything like that. Youre an expert and he's an expert, and has had just as much or more xp than you it sounds like.

[Garland]

and nonsequitor...but fucking great;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVCWH31I6I4&search=southpark

Da-DURK-a DUR.

LMAO
...he he he he.......I thinking I'm dying...can't stop...laughing....he he...dur..he...he...

[BoarSpear]

JEDI!! HE ACTUALLY SAID JEDI!!

OMG thats funny you'd think he would put it in his sig line, "Caution you are discussing the Martial arts with a Jedi knight"

[Garland]

Boar, you best back off, this dude is so legit. Saying stuff like, "If you're implying the FMA/silat doesnt teach knives you're dumber than I thought possible.", just shows youre getting desperate cause he never said anything like that. Youre an expert and he's an expert, and has had just as much or more xp than you it sounds like.

Both of them are legit...that's what's so funny.
They're just set in their ways...
and I feel bad about cracking jokes, but, GODDAMNIT...there needs to be COMEDIC relief...and I'm the type of guy to fart at a funeral!

Durk a dur. lol........he he he......

[BoarSpear]

Boar, you best back off, this dude is so legit. Saying stuff like, "If you're implying the FMA/silat doesnt teach knives you're dumber than I thought possible.", just shows youre getting desperate cause he never said anything like that. Youre an expert and he's an expert, and has had just as much or more xp than you it sounds like.

He's an expert jedi jackass...and on ignore Reread his post, he threw my arts back in my face implying they had no basis for gun and knife or tactics, but mma does...

[Garland]

He's an expert jedi jackass...and on ignore. Reread his post, he threw my arts back in my face implying they had no basis for gun and knife or tactics, but mma does...

I'm guessing "jedi" isn't starwars jedi...it's probably like the "starwars missle program"...unrelated to starwars.

And yes...he took a blow at your arts...and you returned fire, it's all fair and good, but you guys are both legit, and could probably stand to learn a bit from each other...but, hey...it's all good. I'm drunk, keep fighting.

The sad thing is...this actually passes as a form of entertainment for me.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

How does Mongolian wrestling help you with weapons? Just Curious.....If it doesnt help with weapons, wouldnt normal wrestling or grappling be a better choice?

[BoarSpear]

How does Mongolian wrestling help you with weapons? Just Curious.....If it doesnt help with weapons, wouldnt normal wrestling or grappling be a better choice?

this isnt the thread or forum for explaining the intracies of the CMA's, besides I've given that up here anyway.

[Garland]

Man...I just watched a "Going Tribal" episode about Dakur Mongolian tribes. Cool peeps, man...might just want to ditch this America bitch and go chill the old school way... for rizzle, bizzles.

I think I'm gonna go eat some skittles
Maybe write some riddles
Drink some fizzle...

uh...god help me.

[treelizard]

And in fact it isn’t a problem (convulsive grip) it is what it is. There are definitely better grips for training and fighting but what really happens in a fight isn’t always the same thing. All I am saying is I take my grip (what happens anyway) from the fight and not the other way around because that is what’s natural and I think if something comes natural and it serves its intended purpose than don’t change a thing. The kind of stuff that makes those so-called knife masters strut of mumbling about us infidels.

<snip>

I am sorry if folks want to believe otherwise but many times even inferior fragile techniques not only refuse to die but, in fact, garner a stubborn, self-righteous following among the uninformed and unsophisticated?

Darrianation,
I, for one, would be really interested in hearing more about which techniques you've found inferior/fragile IRL...esp. re: FMA, JKD, MMA, MT, etc. Hopefully you can ignore the the whiney childish BS and keep posting... As I've said before your information is some of the most useful I've seen on this forum (tied with Brewer and tant01 and XF!!!!) Or at least tell us where else you post.

[bigred389]

Man...I just watched a "Going Tribal" episode about Dakur Mongolian tribes. Cool peeps, man...might just want to ditch this America bitch and go chill the old school way... for rizzle, bizzles.

I think I'm gonna go eat some skittles
Maybe write some riddles
Drink some fizzle...

uh...god help me.

Hell yeah. Those Mongol warriors were bad ass. Conquer and Pillage.

Props for the comedic relief commercial breaks in between the Clash of the Titans.

[darrianation]

Darrianation,
I, for one, would be really interested in hearing more about which techniques you've found inferior/fragile IRL...esp. re: FMA, JKD, MMA, MT, etc. Hopefully you can ignore the the whiney childish BS and keep posting... As I've said before your information is some of the most useful I've seen on this forum (tied with Brewer and tant01 and XF!!!!) Or at least tell us where else you post.

Treelizard,

I would be happy to explain more briefly then I am done with this thread.

It comes down to testing. Of course we have to be very careful how we set up our filter…if you get that wrong you can get very good at answering the wrong question. The idea is NOT to use someone you can beat anyway as your resisting pressure. That doesn’t prove a thing. You have to use competent and capable opponents to force the driving pressures in such a fashion that it can spontaneity force the maxima.

Once you see a pattern immerging within the maxima (you have a set, identified pattern) then you need to retest using different parameters that are consistent with real world attacks. For the tactical folks this might be dynamic entry, against a competent tango group (resisting opponents), or E&E running gun battles in cars, etc. For the civilian it may be E&E from inside an office building because a disgruntled employ is shooting up the place and AIMS (armed movement inside structures), to the home invasion scenario and so on.

Obviously this is not stuff that a new student would be put through, drills for the new folks are always tailored for intensity so that learning not destruction takes place but there will alwaysbe a segment of the drill that will be used to test their skills as in the manner above.

Many techniques and movements fail this filter. Unfortunately these are some of the same techniques and movements that are held as sacred by some. As the intensity raises, as the opponents competency raises, and as the complexity raises fewer and fewer things work (get filtered out), many are inconsistent, and only the robust among them come to the surface ( I am talking about techniques and movements).

We also see “tactics play a much bigger role in successful outcomes than do techniques. However there are a select list of skills that will give you a bigger advantage across a wide spectrum of complexity and possibilities that do not change. For instance getting off the X, and drawstroke, etc.

I would be happy to explain more but not here in this thread. I have to go now.

I no longer want to keep posting on this thread…Boar still has what I am saying wrong focusing on nonsense instead of the message and I have wasted enough time and energy on that bipedal cheeseburger.

I am done with this nonsense.

[knifethrower]

Many techniques and movements fail this filter. Unfortunately these are some of the same techniques and movements that are held as sacred by some. As the intensity raises, as the opponents competency raises, and as the complexity raises fewer and fewer things work (get filtered out), many are inconsistent, and only the robust among them come to the surface ( I am talking about techniques and movements).

Dude, I’m not wanting to be a dick or anything nor am I some pro kill-machine so take all this with a grain of salt. Did those techniques and movements fail or did you fail to do the techniques and movements?

P.S. I'm talking about the FMA stuff.....

[treelizard]

Dude, I’m not wanting to be a dick or anything nor am I some pro kill-machine so take all this with a grain of salt. Did those techniques and movements fail or did you fail to do the techniques and movements?

P.S. I'm talking about the FMA stuff.....

Hey knifethrower, maybe you can give us examples of which techniques failed or you failed when using FMA in a zero-sum conflict?

[treelizard]

Darrianation,
Thanks for explaining and I'll look for more in other threads.

I no longer want to keep posting on this thread…Boar still has what I am saying wrong focusing on nonsense instead of the message and I have wasted enough time and energy on that bipedal cheeseburger.

Understood!! So have the rest of us.