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  • #31
    Great argument.

    Jesus, can't you be happy about the fact that they found DEFINITIVE PROOF that there were WMD?? Saddam agreed to disarm as part of the turns of ending Gulf 1 and he didn't. Failing to provide proof was in itself an act of war.

    Any soldiers reading this, please know that many of us are right behind you. WE ARE WINNING!!!!!!!

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    • #32
      500 shells
      By: Steven Foley · Section: Diaries

      by now I'm sure you're all aware of this Report: Hundreds of WMDs Found in Iraq

      The United States has found 500 chemical weapons in Iraq since 2003, and more weapons of mass destruction are likely to be uncovered, two Republican lawmakers said Wednesday.

      "We have found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, chemical weapons," Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., said in a quickly called press conference late Wednesday afternoon.

      Reading from a declassified portion of a report by the National Ground Intelligence Center, a Defense Department intelligence unit, Santorum said: "Since 2003, coalition forces have recovered approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent. Despite many efforts to locate and destroy Iraq's pre-Gulf War chemical munitions, filled and unfilled pre-Gulf War chemical munitions are assessed to still exist."

      And if I could sound the alarm for those who respect Senator Santorum Get ready for an all out attack from the left accusing him of using this as a campaign stunt this of course is completely ridicules but you know it's coming if it hasn't started already!
      Print This Story
      Jun 22nd, 2006: 12:57:00
      Yesterday's announcement reminds me of this story from May 17, 2004 Sarin, Mustard Gas Discovered Separately in Iraq

      A roadside bomb containing sarin nerve agent (search) recently exploded near a U.S. military convoy, the U.S. military said Monday.

      Bush administration officials told Fox News that mustard gas (search) was also recently discovered.

      Two people were treated for "minor exposure" after the sarin incident but no serious injuries were reported. Soldiers transporting the shell for inspection suffered symptoms consistent with low-level chemical exposure, which is what led to the discovery, a U.S. official told Fox News.

      "The Iraqi Survey Group confirmed today that a 155-millimeter artillery round containing sarin nerve agent had been found," Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt (search), the chief military spokesman in Iraq, told reporters in Baghdad. "The round had been rigged as an IED (improvised explosive device) which was discovered by a U.S. force convoy."

      The round detonated before it would be rendered inoperable, Kimmitt said, which caused a "very small dispersal of agent."

      --snip--

      Two weeks ago, U.S. military units discovered mustard gas that was used as part of an IED. Tests conducted by the Iraqi Survey Group (search) -- a U.S. organization searching for weapons of mass destruction -- and others concluded the mustard gas was "stored improperly," which made the gas "ineffective."

      They believe the mustard gas shell may have been one of 550 projectiles for which former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein failed to account when he made his weapons declaration shortly before Operation Iraqi Freedom began last year. Iraq also failed to then account for 450 aerial bombs with mustard gas. That, combined with the shells, totaled about 80 tons of unaccounted for mustard gas.

      As far as shelf life for these weapons or their ineffectiveness according to the CIA, Iraq has tried to overcome the problem of sarin's short shelf life by Developing binary chemical weapons, where the two precursor chemicals are stored separately in the same shell, and mixed to form the agent immediately before or when the shell is in flight. This approach has the dual benefit of making the issue of shelf life irrelevant and greatly increasing the safety of sarin munitions So lets put the "these weapons are old and no threat" arguments to rest!

      The fact that these shells predated the 1st Iraq war has absolutly no barring on the fact that the finding proves Saddam was hiding these weapons. UN resolution 1441 as well as the pervious 15 or so resolutions demanded that Saddam account for ALL such wepons. No matter how much the lunitic left wants to dismiss this finding, the fact remains, along with a litany of reasons to go to war the WMD section/reason was valid.

      I have a very strong felling that this is just a small portion of what was and will be found. As a military anylist said last night on Fox news (sorry can't remember his rank or name I think it was Thomas McInerery but don't hold me to that) the reason why this administration may not want to come forward with more is the possible exposure of counties who were complicit in providing said weapons such as Russia, China, and France.

      It's important to not lose track of whats going on here. Is this the smoking gun, No, not that that would satisfy the left. We could find 20 nuclear missles there and the left would find some way to spinn out of saying they were wrong. Its important to sistimaticly show the American people that what they are being told in the MSM is not the be-all end-all gosple truth they'd like everybody to believe!

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      • #33
        Originally posted by treelizard
        500 shells
        By: Steven Foley · Section: Diaries

        by now I'm sure you're all aware of this Report: Hundreds of WMDs Found in Iraq

        The United States has found 500 chemical weapons in Iraq since 2003, and more weapons of mass destruction are likely to be uncovered, two Republican lawmakers said Wednesday.

        "We have found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, chemical weapons," Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., said in a quickly called press conference late Wednesday afternoon.

        Reading from a declassified portion of a report by the National Ground Intelligence Center, a Defense Department intelligence unit, Santorum said: "Since 2003, coalition forces have recovered approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent. Despite many efforts to locate and destroy Iraq's pre-Gulf War chemical munitions, filled and unfilled pre-Gulf War chemical munitions are assessed to still exist."

        And if I could sound the alarm for those who respect Senator Santorum Get ready for an all out attack from the left accusing him of using this as a campaign stunt this of course is completely ridicules but you know it's coming if it hasn't started already!
        Print This Story
        Jun 22nd, 2006: 12:57:00
        Yesterday's announcement reminds me of this story from May 17, 2004 Sarin, Mustard Gas Discovered Separately in Iraq

        A roadside bomb containing sarin nerve agent (search) recently exploded near a U.S. military convoy, the U.S. military said Monday.

        Bush administration officials told Fox News that mustard gas (search) was also recently discovered.

        Two people were treated for "minor exposure" after the sarin incident but no serious injuries were reported. Soldiers transporting the shell for inspection suffered symptoms consistent with low-level chemical exposure, which is what led to the discovery, a U.S. official told Fox News.

        "The Iraqi Survey Group confirmed today that a 155-millimeter artillery round containing sarin nerve agent had been found," Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt (search), the chief military spokesman in Iraq, told reporters in Baghdad. "The round had been rigged as an IED (improvised explosive device) which was discovered by a U.S. force convoy."

        The round detonated before it would be rendered inoperable, Kimmitt said, which caused a "very small dispersal of agent."

        --snip--

        Two weeks ago, U.S. military units discovered mustard gas that was used as part of an IED. Tests conducted by the Iraqi Survey Group (search) -- a U.S. organization searching for weapons of mass destruction -- and others concluded the mustard gas was "stored improperly," which made the gas "ineffective."

        They believe the mustard gas shell may have been one of 550 projectiles for which former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein failed to account when he made his weapons declaration shortly before Operation Iraqi Freedom began last year. Iraq also failed to then account for 450 aerial bombs with mustard gas. That, combined with the shells, totaled about 80 tons of unaccounted for mustard gas.

        As far as shelf life for these weapons or their ineffectiveness according to the CIA, Iraq has tried to overcome the problem of sarin's short shelf life by Developing binary chemical weapons, where the two precursor chemicals are stored separately in the same shell, and mixed to form the agent immediately before or when the shell is in flight. This approach has the dual benefit of making the issue of shelf life irrelevant and greatly increasing the safety of sarin munitions So lets put the "these weapons are old and no threat" arguments to rest!

        The fact that these shells predated the 1st Iraq war has absolutly no barring on the fact that the finding proves Saddam was hiding these weapons. UN resolution 1441 as well as the pervious 15 or so resolutions demanded that Saddam account for ALL such wepons. No matter how much the lunitic left wants to dismiss this finding, the fact remains, along with a litany of reasons to go to war the WMD section/reason was valid.

        I have a very strong felling that this is just a small portion of what was and will be found. As a military anylist said last night on Fox news (sorry can't remember his rank or name I think it was Thomas McInerery but don't hold me to that) the reason why this administration may not want to come forward with more is the possible exposure of counties who were complicit in providing said weapons such as Russia, China, and France.

        It's important to not lose track of whats going on here. Is this the smoking gun, No, not that that would satisfy the left. We could find 20 nuclear missles there and the left would find some way to spinn out of saying they were wrong. Its important to sistimaticly show the American people that what they are being told in the MSM is not the be-all end-all gosple truth they'd like everybody to believe!


        Too embarrased where you got it to put the link huh? Try quotation marks next time too hmmm RedState, sounds like an unbaised site for sourcing reputable material.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by BoarSpear
          http://steven-foley.redstate.com/sto.../22/12570/9670

          Too embarrased where you got it to put the link huh? Try quotation marks next time too hmmm RedState, sounds like an unbaised site for sourcing reputable material.
          Heh, no not embarrassed at all, it's just early in the morning is all. I didn't correct the spelling errors either.

          Quotation marks?

          Hey, I read that your buddy John Murtha's attack was posted on an Al Qaeda website to show how people spouting rhetoric quite similar to yours "support our troops."

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          • #35
            Originally posted by BoarSpear
            hmmm RedState, sounds like an unbaised site for sourcing reputable material.
            Please tell me what exactly is nonfactual about the material. I would like sources and citations.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by treelizard
              Please tell me what exactly is nonfactual about the material. I would like sources and citations.

              RedState hmmm if you werent embarrassed why not put the link? you usually do...

              Whats wrong with citing an OPINION piece from a site called RedState? nothing you mental midget, absolutley nothing

              TRY THIS LINK...

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              • #37
                I asked for citations, not more BS conspiracy theories.

                What's the matter with you anyway? Are you sad because Zarqawi was killed and WMDs were found?

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                • #38


                  "It will be entertaining to watch the Left spin this one. They are a creative bunch though, and I'm sure they'll come up with some real whoppers:

                  All those guys coughing up blood because of exposure to mustard gas during WWI were just faking it. The whole thing was a scam set up by Prescott Bush. Mustard gas is really harmless. Ever die from an overdose of Grey Poupon? SADDAM HAD NO WMD'S!!!"

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by treelizard
                    Heh, no not embarrassed at all, it's just early in the morning is all. I didn't correct the spelling errors either.

                    Quotation marks?

                    Hey, I read that your buddy John Murtha's attack was posted on an Al Qaeda website to show how people spouting rhetoric quite similar to yours "support our troops."
                    Hey bitch, support this I dont know your buddies or visit Al Qaeda websites...nor do I out current military ops then try to claim a old report as a source.....you're not helping anyone in AMERICA but i'm sure your other home is really fukkin proud of you.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by treelizard
                      I asked for citations, not more BS conspiracy theories.

                      What's the matter with you anyway? Are you sad because Zarqawi was killed and WMDs were found?
                      ................I have but one country I'm loyal to, no question its the USA, you on the other hand have stated where your loyalties are...you just stepped in it with me for good you'll be pleased to know
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                      • #41
                        Last I heard a two-day old report isn't "old."

                        Your name-calling and accusations of a bunch of BS you made up in your head doesn't take away from my points.

                        Still waiting for those citations...

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                        • #42
                          You sure as heck act like you're bummed out about the GOOD NEWS.

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                          • #43
                            One more question for Boar, assuming I'm not on the ever-growing list of people he's too scared to talk to yet.

                            Are chemical warheads WMDs?

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                            • #44
                              This whore comment really is just not cool, and just makes you a creep. Any man who would talk like that to any woman obviously has no respect for women, so you must not respect your wife either. Why don't you respect your wife? She seems pretty damn cool in her own right, not to mention that she puts up with your BS day in and day out.

                              I also want to point out that a desperate loser conspiracy freak like you would have to had had lots of experience with whores if you have any hope of having sex with a woman who's not a blood relation.

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                              • #45
                                couldn't be more pathetic if he tried...

                                Notice how the list of people Boarchickenshitspear is afraid to talk to is growing. That's a big part of how these conspiracy lunatics work; they have to shut out anything that doesn't support their little fantasy world. This sad, stupid piece of shit is a perfect example.

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