Terror plot in the UK foiled.

[Tom Yum]

But us Brits don't keep pushing our own culture down another country's throat, clearly pretending that our rules somehow prevent violent crime.

Uh huh, that's why you guys kept feeding us old reruns of Benny Hill, Are you being served? and Mr. Bean....expecting us to be sedated so you can re-invade us....jk

[Thai Bri]

We fought a war to keep a bunch of narrow minded gun toting Nazis like you from seeing the light of day, Good day!

[Thai Bri]

http://www.parliament.uk/commons/lib...9/rp99-056.pdf

From the statistics from the UK.

8% involved a fire arm.

a third involved a sharp object.


Seems people find a way to kill people no matter if gun are "unavailable" I wonder how many of the 8% killed by guns wished they could have had an equalizer.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/4749940.stm
So how do people get murdered with gun if they are illegal of there?

That was 8% of murders etc., not 8% of crimes. As for your last point..... its easy. Criminals got them illegally. Would you like to compare stats with how many people in the UK get murdered with guns, compared to how many people in the US (including those who were entitled to use a gun to defend themselves of course).

And, of course, the wilfully blind always try to include the Northern Ireland stats, and pretend that the fact that there was an official war going on between the military and terrorists was somehoe relevant to ordinary folks in England, Scotland and Wales! Haw haw haw!

If your culture has it right, then surely the amount (or, to be fair, the amount taking into consideration the respective numbers our society contains) should be lower in your country than it is in mine.

Let us all know what ya find!

I bet you find that thousands of people get killed by guins in the USA every year. And that the figures for the UK, even taking into consideration the differences in population numbers, is absolutely unbelieveably miniscule.

[Tom Yum]

Let's get some results here.

Question for you guys:

Is there an urban combatives response to the ambush or kidnapping scenario?

Why? The statistics state that your chances of surviving said scenario decrease if you voluntarily leave the scene.

[Thai Bri]

and you all damn near lost. Till the US and the Russians with their guns showed up to save you.

Ahem. If we hadn't held the Nazis at bay, do you really think that your very very late showing would have made a difference?

[jubaji]

We fought a war to keep YOUR freakin' culture outta our country BOZO.

Well, that's not exactly true.

[jubaji]

We fought a war to keep a bunch of narrow minded gun toting Nazis like you from seeing the light of day, ya knob!

Good day!

Actually, you fought to save your own asses from the threat that you allowed to fester in the first place. (thanks Neville! )

and you were juuuuuuust about to fail until your 'ol buds stopped by to help out a cousin.

[jubaji]

But us Brits don't keep pushing our own culture down another country's throat!

Yeah, don't tell that to India, Africa, the Carribbean, Hong Kong, etc...

[Thai Bri]

Good points!

Haw haw haw!

[Hardball]

Yeah, don't tell that to India, Africa, the Carribbean, Hong Kong, etc...

Brilliant point!!!!!!!!

[Tom Yum]

Yes we threw a beat down on the British during the American Revolution. And we saved them from Hitler's merciless army and navy, but today they are one of our few allies on the GWOT.

We're even cross-training with them.

The terror plot mentioned was an act against civilians, that could be replicated here at home.

That being said, what tactics can civilians use to defend themselves against an ambush of this kind? Being armed and prepaired is a plus, but ambushes can happen really fast...

Anyone?

[BoarSpear]

Yes we threw a beat down on the British during the American Revolution. And we saved them from Hitler's merciless army and navy, but today they are one of our few allies on the GWOT.

We're even cross-training with them.

The terror plot mentioned was an act against civilians, that could be replicated here at home.

That being said, what tactics can civilians use to defend themselves against an ambush of this kind? Being armed and prepaired is a plus, but ambushes can happen really fast...

Anyone?

Sure, I'll borrow an old Navy "safety poster" "Be a Lert, because lerts live longer"

[Tom Yum]

Sure, I'll borrow an old Navy "safety poster" "Be a Lert, because lerts live longer"

Travelling in packs and staying together. Having a buddy or two with you can increase your chances of survival.

Staying in well lit, populated areas - if possible. If not, have something that can be used as a weapon: hard weapon - soft target.

[Thai Bri]

You're so blind. Who wants the "freedom" to live in a society where thousands of good people get killed by guns?

[Tom Yum]

You're so blind.

Uh huh, which is why your avatar doesn't have eyes...

Who wants the "freedom" to live in a society where thousands of good people get killed by guns?

I think you're just jealous that you can't have freedom fries.