Punching Power and Slapping Power

[BoarSpear]

Of course, technique is the number one factor here with Iron Palm! Part of this technique is conditioning yourself and your Chi for these kind of strikes -

Might I suggest a Dit Da Jow formula from [link deleted]

We will provide you with all the necessary information you will need regarding iron palm and iron body conditioning and training!

See ya there!

so who was your teacher? It looks like you have the all the formula's from Doo Wai/ lacy...but the prices are high unless you do bulk deals...

[IPA]

Bulk discounts, but of course!

Of course we offer bulk discounts - if anyone is interested in buying in bulk quantities, they should send us an email for a quote - and as far as the formulas (ingredients & weights) are concerned, we replicate no one individual - Our formulas are unique but consistant with those of ingredients PROVEN to promote healing and cultivate chi -

As far as price is concerned, Our Jow formulas use QUALITY ingredients only - as with any good Jow, settle time is necessary for the formula, and the cheaper Jows you see on others' websites are not settled for any length of time... most of the time, they are thrown together and drained into plastic bottles and marketed right away -

Our Jows have settled and are sold in high quality glass bottles - our ingredients are included with every purchase so that the practitioner knows what they are getting. As for the other Iron Palm / Iron Hand training tools we sell, they are ALL hand made and inspected for quality before they are shipped to their purchaser - you won't find the price for this kind of quality on any other Martial Artist's site -

Thanks,

Chase Benefield

[IronPalmArts]

so who was your teacher? It looks like you have the all the formula's from Doo Wai/ lacy...but the prices are high unless you do bulk deals...

Just To Clarify None Of The Formulas We Sell Are DooWai/Lacy The Only Formulas Similar To Their Lineage Is Fung Doe Duk's White Tiger Iron Palm Dit Da Jow And IronPalmArts Superior Dit Da Jow Both Of These Formulas Come Straight From Mt Fukien Way Before Doo Wai And Lacy Ever Got A Hold Of The Info They Have Today. As Far As Prices I'm Willing To Bet You Search The Entire Internet And You Will Not Find A Martial Arts Store Were You Can Buy High Quality Products With A Good Name; Dit Da Jow, Equipment Or Herbal Formulas For The Prices We Offer.

Here Is A Dit Da Jow Formula We Offer And Some Iron Palm Info From IronPalmArts To Defend.Net

IronPalmArts Chi Conditioning Dit Da Jow

This Dit Da Jow Will Enhance Any Iron Palm Or Internal Arts Training. This Is A Very Special Blend. This Dit Da Jow Formula Is Not For Bruises, Strains, Or Sprains - This Dit Da Jow Conditions Chi/Energy. It’s Purpose Is That It Conditions The Chi In The Hands For Explosive Strikes Packed With Chi. Legend Has It The Shaolin Monks Had To Train For 15 Years Before Using This Dit Da Jow Formula.

The Dit Da Jow Is For External Use Only.

Disclaimer: The Above Statements Have Not Been Evaluated By The Food And Drug Administration. This Product Is Not Intended To Diagnose, Treat, Cure Or Prevent Any Disease. User Assumes All Risks.

English Name--------------Pin Yin Name------------Weight

Tang-Kuei Root. -------------Dang Gui.----------------0.7 oz.
Schizandra.-----------------Wu Wei Zi.----------------0.5 oz.
Frankincense.----------------Ru Xiang.----------------1.1 oz.
Myrrh.-----------------------Ma Yao.-----------------1.1 oz.
Safflower.-------------------Hong Hua.---------------0.3 oz.
Gardenia Fruit.----------------Zhi Zi.------------------0.9 oz.
Eucommia Bark.-------------Du Zhong.----------------0.5 oz.
Ginger Rhizome.-------------Sheng Jiang.--------------0.5 oz.
White Peony Root.-----------Bai Shao.----------------0.3 oz.
Atractylodis Rhizome.---------Bai Zhu.----------------0.3 oz.
Peony Root Bark-------------Mu Dan Pi.---------------0.2 oz.

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Some Iron Palm Meditations

Meditate In Each Hand Posture Slowly Moving Your Hand From Your Striking Position To Placing Your Hand On The Iron Hand Bag, Punching Bag Etc.

Meditate With Your Hands In Prayer Position Lightly Pressing Them Together And Vision Fighting Using Your Iron Skills. Start Off With One Opponent At First Then Two Opponents Until You Reach Four Opponents In All.

Meditate With Your Hands Placed In A Bucket Of Hot Water Do Not Burn Your Hands After Five Minutes Have Another Bucket With Cold Water In It And Place Your Hand In It For Five Minutes. Repeat

Remember When You Train Standing, Train In Your Natural Fighting Stance Like You Would In Actual Combat. The Reason For This Is When The Time Comes It Will Come More Naturally And When You Go To Attack Your Mind Doesn’t Boggle And All Your Training Goes Out The Door. Many People Are Not Aware Of This But Most Of The Older Styles Of Martial Arts That Attack In Deep Stance Are Of Use In This Day And Time But Only For Strengthening The Lower Body And Jing. The Main Reason Why They Stand In Such Deep Stance Is Most Of The Fights They Were Confronted With Were On A Ship Or On The Side Of Mountains Making It Easy To Lose Your Balance But In A Deep Stance Your Center Is More Grounded And Balance Is Easier To Maintain.

IronPalmArts 180 Day Guideline System.

Iron Palm.

This Is For All Of The Warriors That Already Follow The Way, For Those Who Seek Aid Finding The Way, And Who Do Not Know The Way. IronPalmArts Is Here To Present A Way To Strengthen Your Chi, Harden Your Hands, And Embody The Skill To Up Your Game.

Iron Hand Basics

Your Tongue Will Be Placed At The Roof Of Your Mouth Right Behind The Teeth And You Will Breath Out Each Time You Strike The Iron Hand Bag Through Out This Entire Exercise. Many Have Asked Why Is This, Why Should I Follow These Exact Instructions. This Is My Answer To You? Placing Your Tongue On The Roof Of Your Mouth And Breathing Out Is Only A Trigger. This Trigger Will Help You To Control What Is Within And What I Mean By Within Is Your Subconscious. By Following These Simple Instructions Through Out Your Exercising And Hitting The Iron Palm Bag Will Slow Train Your Mind So When The Time Comes To Defend Yourself You Will Not Have To Think, Without Effort You Will Employ Strike After Strike With Unimaginable Force.

By Following These Steps You Will Not Master The Iron Hand, But Through Routine Practice You Will Follow The Path. I Can Not Show You The Way And Reading These Instruction Can Not. Only You Can Know The True Way!

Iron Hand Training

Before Starting This Training You Will Need An Iron Hand Bag And A Kitchen Timer.

At The Beginning Do Not Strike The Bag Let The Weight Of Your Hand Fall Onto The Bag Until Month Four Then You Can Strike The Bag. Many Say Do Not Strike The Bag! This Is My Answer To You? Without Striking You Will Not Learn How To Properly Use The Iron Hand. When Training Do Not Hit Keep Hitting With The Same Hand Posture Switch Between The Hand Postures. Before Repeating Let Your Hands Rest For 20 Minutes. When Applying Dit Da Jow Rub Vigorously Into Your Hands For 30 Seconds And After Training Wash Your Hands With Soap For 30 Seconds And Rinse. This Will Help You From Contaminating Yourself And Others You Touch Especially If You Have Children. After You Have Finish Training Fill A Bucket Full Of Hot Water As Hot As You Can Withstand. Don’t Harm Your Hands Buy Burning Them. Let Your Hand Soak In The Hot Water And Stir Your Hands In A Circle. Doing 5 Reps With Each Way Until Time Is Up. Time Yourself For 10 Minutes. This Will Help You Hands Heal And Your Hands Will Also Absorb The Energy From The Heat Allowing You To Store Chi/Energy In Your Hands.

This Training Has Been Revised So It Makes More Sense Before It Was Kind Of Unclear If You Should Hit 15 Times In The Same Hand Posture Then Go To The Next And That Is Wrong You Should Switch Between Each Hand Posture.

Beginner Level Training

First Month

Apply Some Dit Da Jow Before And After Each Training Session
1 Reps of 10 Switch Between Hand Postures
Palm
Back Hand
Claw
Hammer Fist
Chop
Repeat Four More Times

Second Month

Apply Some Dit Da Jow Before And After Each Training Session
1 Reps of 15 Switch Between Hand Postures
Palm
Back Hand
Claw
Hammer Fist
Chop
Repeat Four More Times

Third Month

Apply Some Dit Da Jow Before And After Each Training Session
1 Reps of 20 Switch Between Hand Postures
Palm
Back Hand
Claw
Hammer Fist
Chop
Repeat Four More Times

Fourth Month Start Striking Bag

Apply Some Dit Da Jow Before And After Each Training Session
1 Reps of 30 Switch Between Hand Postures
Palm
Back Hand
Claw
Hammer Fist
Chop
Repeat Three More Times

Fifth Month

Apply Some Dit Da Jow Before And After Each Training Session
1 Reps of 40 Switch Between Hand Postures
Palm
Back Hand
Claw
Hammer Fist
Chop
Repeat Three More Times

Sixth Month

Apply Some Dit Da Jow Before And After Each Training Session
1 Reps of 40 Switch Between Hand Postures
Palm
Back Hand
Claw
Hammer Fist
Chop
Repeat Three More Times






Intermediate Level Training

First Month

Apply Some Dit Da Jow Before And After Each Training Session
1 Reps of 15 Switch Between Hand Postures
Palm
Back Hand
Claw
Hammer Fist
Chop
Repeat Four More Times

Second Month

Apply Some Dit Da Jow Before And After Each Training Session
1 Reps of 20 Switch Between Hand Postures
Palm
Back Hand
Claw
Hammer Fist
Chop
Repeat Four More Times

Third Month

Apply Some Dit Da Jow Before And After Each Training Session
1 Reps of 25 Switch Between Hand Postures
Palm
Back Hand
Claw
Hammer Fist
Chop
Repeat Four More Times

Fourth Month Start Striking Bag

Apply Some Dit Da Jow Before And After Each Training Session
1 Reps of 50 Switch Between Hand Postures
Palm
Back Hand
Claw
Hammer Fist
Chop
Repeat Three More Times

Fifth Month

Apply Some Dit Da Jow Before And After Each Training Session
1 Reps of 75 Switch Between Hand Postures
Palm
Back Hand
Claw
Hammer Fist
Chop
Repeat Three More Times

Sixth Month

Apply Some Dit Da Jow Before And After Each Training Session
1 Reps of 100 Switch Between Hand Postures
Palm
Back Hand
Claw
Hammer Fist
Chop
Repeat Three More Times






Advance Level Training

First Month

Apply Some Dit Da Jow Before And After Each Training Session
1 Reps of 15 Switch Between Hand Postures
Palm
Back Hand
Claw
Hammer Fist
Chop
Repeat Four More Times

Second Month

Apply Some Dit Da Jow Before And After Each Training Session
1 Reps of 30 Switch Between Hand Postures
Palm
Back Hand
Claw
Hammer Fist
Chop
Repeat Four More Times

Third Month

Apply Some Dit Da Jow Before And After Each Training Session
1 Reps of 60 Switch Between Hand Postures
Palm
Back Hand
Claw
Hammer Fist
Chop
Repeat Four More Times

Fourth Month Start Striking Bag

Apply Some Dit Da Jow Before And After Each Training Session
1 Reps of 120 Switch Between Hand Postures
Palm
Back Hand
Claw
Hammer Fist
Chop
Repeat Three More Times

Fifth Month

Apply Some Dit Da Jow Before And After Each Training Session
1 Reps of 150 Switch Between Hand Postures
Palm
Back Hand
Claw
Hammer Fist
Chop
Repeat Three More Times

Sixth Month

Apply Some Dit Da Jow Before And After Each Training Session
1 Reps of 200 Switch Between Hand Postures
Palm
Back Hand
Claw
Hammer Fist
Chop
Repeat Three More Times


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[BoarSpear]

Do YOU actually do that? how long have YOU been doing this?
how old are you and when did you start? who taught you to do this?

[IronPalmArts]

Do YOU actually do that? how long have YOU been doing this?
how old are you and when did you start? who taught you to do this?

I Was Training While You Where Busy Posting In Forums


The True Strategy


The True Strategy Cannot Be Explained In Words, And It Cannot Be Taught Through Instructions In How To Stand, Where To Strike, And So On. You Must Realize This Yourself, Apart From The Instructions You Receive From Your Teacher.

If You Want To Learn This Miraculous Truth, You Must Not Stay On The Level Of Simple Or Coarse Teachings, But Strive Towards A Higher And More Beautiful Spirit, Persevere In Your Training As If You Were A Sword Forged From The Purest Metal. Make Surpassing Effort Upon Effort, And Not Waste A Moment.

A Master Of Strategy Does Not Kill People With His Or Her Skill. Anyone Standing In Front Of A Master Who Has Realized The Truth Will Naturally Cower As If Already Dead. (Kazumi Tabata)

[BoarSpear]

you avoided the question...Its extremely irresponsible to post any ironpalm training on a forum that kids frequent, hell even adults shouldnt try it without a teacher...yet you go and post a dangerous routine on the net...one you probably dont do or you wouldnt have so lightly tossed it out there...you dont hit the bag...its like the teachings said, "let the hand drop" ironpalm makes internal connections from a relaxed strike practiced daily (not 4 times a week) for 3 years 3 times PER DAY to achieve the palm conditioning for the type program you listed...if "you" hit the bag then you are just toughening your hands. you also never hit more 20 times per surface at a time. and lastly thats an advanced standing or vibrating palm exercise which has at least one death associated with mistraining it in the US and countless stories of it in china.

people should never begin ironpalm with long palm training, always begin with a short palm, see if you really want to invest daily training for the rest of your life to hitting rocks or steel shot with a short power system before you devote 3 years to long palm.

[Art of Soccer]

Don't russian spetnaz? use slapping blows.

[IronPalmArts]

you avoided the question...Its extremely irresponsible to post any ironpalm training on a forum that kids frequent, hell even adults shouldnt try it without a teacher...yet you go and post a dangerous routine on the net...one you probably dont do or you wouldnt have so lightly tossed it out there...you dont hit the bag...its like the teachings said, "let the hand drop" ironpalm makes internal connections from a relaxed strike practiced daily (not 4 times a week) for 3 years 3 times PER DAY to achieve the palm conditioning for the type program you listed...if "you" hit the bag then you are just toughening your hands. you also never hit more 20 times per surface at a time. and lastly thats an advanced standing or vibrating palm exercise which has at least one death associated with mistraining it in the US and countless stories of it in china.

people should never begin ironpalm with long palm training, always begin with a short palm, see if you really want to invest daily training for the rest of your life to hitting rocks or steel shot with a short power system before you devote 3 years to long palm.

In Today’s Way Of Life It Is Very Hard For The Average Person To Take This Much Time To Train So The Training Is Modified For The Average User. The Above Training Is 100% Safe I Do This Exact Training. If You Are Just Letting Your Hand Drop And Using Dit Da Jow Then You Could Train All Day Long As You Progress Your Hand Becomes Tougher. By Hitting The Bag Only You Will Never Obtain The Iron Hand Of Legend. Only Through Meditation, Qi Gong/Chi Kung And Routine Training Will You Obtain The True Iron Hand. How Do You Think Iron Hand Training Or Any Other Style Was Started? It Started With One Person Without A Teacher And Then That One Person Taught Someone Else. You Cannot Criticize My Way When You Haven’t Even Tried It For Yourself. Have You Ever Watched A Shaolin Monk Train In Iron Hand Their Is Nothing Relaxed About It. Thrusting Their Hands In Extremely Hot Sand/Gravel And Hitting On The Iron Palm Bag For Hours At A Time And Moving So Fast That You Can Barely Make Out The Hand Postures As They Hit The Bag. Letting Your Hand Drop The Entire Training Is Only A Way The Masters Hide The True Art. For All You Know My Way Of Teaching Iron Hand Could Be Far More Superior To Your Own Training. Your Wasting All Of Your Time Griping About This And That And Think Only Your Way Is The Right Way When Their Are Countless Ways To Train Not Just Your Way. In Your Eyes Everyone Is Wrong And You Are The Only One That Is Right. You Clear Show This By The Way You Have Presented Yourself. If Anyone Is Irresponsible It's You Opening Your Mouth Before Thinking About What You Are Saying.

[BoarSpear]

In Today’s Way Of Life It Is Very Hard For The Average Person To Take This Much Time To Train So The Training Is Modified For The Average User. The Above Training Is 100% Safe I Do This Exact Training. If You Are Just Letting Your Hand Drop And Using Dit Da Jow Then You Could Train All Day Long As You Progress Your Hand Becomes Tougher. By Hitting The Bag Only You Will Never Obtain The Iron Hand Of Legend Only Through Meditation, Qi Gong/Chi Kung And Routine Training Will You Obtain The True Iron Hand. How Do You Think Iron Hand Training Or Any Other Style Was Started? It Started With One Person Without A Teacher And Then That One Person Taught Someone Else. You Cannot Criticize My Way When You Haven’t Even Tried It For Yourself. For All You Know My Way Of Teaching Iron Palm Could Be Far More Superior To Your Own Training. Your Wasting All Of Your Time Grapping About This And That And Think Only Your Way Is The Right Way When Their Are Counts Ways The Train Not Just Your Way. In Your Eyes Everyone Is Wrong And You Are The Only One That Is Right. You Clear Show That In The Way Your Have Presented Yourself. If Anyone Is Irresponsible It's You Opening Your Mouth Before Thinking About What You Are Saying.

you have avoided every question, you came here to spam the forum with your first post...now youre just defending your products...the program you posted was directly from your website sales pitch...People did just start out trying things and they kept records of the mistakes and modified the training...you modifying it is quite different than the monks who worked for hundreds of years to refine the art....the shorter program to address todays training times was invented long ago its the short palm system you obviously couldnt find a book on....in your haste to post your sales pitch you didnt mention the different mediums for the bag, i guess they were just supposed to buy them from you?

Ive been practicing ironpalm over 2 decades DAILY, i have sought out all the best ironpalm people to cross train and continue my learning as i continue to do everyday, never have i seen such a dangerous disregard for others saftey as posting that as authentic ironpalm

its authentic made up half assed and likely to destroy your hands training and nothing more...5 to 10 years of that and you wont be able to make a fist.

Ironpalm properly done increases blood flow to the fingers and doesnt harden the hands and cause problems, it basically will do the opposite, unless you improperly train it... or wash of the jow before an hour has gone by...

[Art of Soccer]

Doesn't Master Pan hit steel 2000 times a day and still has use of his hands... but they do look beat up around the knuckles.
I think I saw him on a PBS martial arts program.

Whats an Iron Palm Herb... I was reading about people using substitutes to treat bruises.

I also read that they say it's more internal then external conditioning.


Edit: I found a link to someones Iron Palm site: http://www.themartialist.com/pecom/ironpalm.htm

[Sagacious Lu]

Whats an Iron Palm Herb... I was reading about people using substitutes to treat bruises.

I can't tell you how to make it but my teacher makes and sells bottles of dit da jow. It's great stuff to have when you're bruised up from training hard. It's very inexpensive and a little bit goes a long way, which is fortunate because it stinks something awful

[IronPalmArts]

you have avoided every question, you came here to spam the forum with your first post...now youre just defending your products...the program you posted was directly from your website sales pitch...People did just start out trying things and they kept records of the mistakes and modified the training...you modifying it is quite different than the monks who worked for hundreds of years to refine the art....the shorter program to address todays training times was invented long ago its the short palm system you obviously couldnt find a book on....in your haste to post your sales pitch you didnt mention the different mediums for the bag, i guess they were just supposed to buy them from you?

Ive been practicing ironpalm over 2 decades DAILY, i have sought out all the best ironpalm people to cross train and continue my learning as i continue to do everyday, never have i seen such a dangerous disregard for others saftey as posting that as authentic ironpalm

its authentic made up half assed and likely to destroy your hands training and nothing more...5 to 10 years of that and you wont be able to make a fist.

Ironpalm properly done increases blood flow to the fingers and doesnt harden the hands and cause problems, it basically will do the opposite, unless you improperly train it... or wash of the jow before an hour has gone by...

I Didn't Avoid The Question I Just Didn't Answer It. The Reason Why Is Like I Said You Have Already Shown Me The True Way You Are A Grumpy Old Man That Thinks He Knows It All And In Truth Has Barely Scratch The Surface. My Hand Are Just Fine And So Are Chase's.

I Have Many Syudents Who Have Training Under Me And None Of Them Have Ever Had A Problem With My Iron Hand Or Iron Body Training.

Masutatsu Oyama A True Master One Of The Most Famous Of The Iron Skills Would Condition For Hours At A Time. Stating That You Must Hit After A Certain Stage Of Training To Get The Full Effect Of It.

That Is Why In The First Four Months You Let Your Hand Drop For The Internal Link. Then The Next Two Months You Hit The Bag. After The 180 Days You Advance To The Next Level. Level One Mung Beans Or Rice Filled Bag, Level Two Pebbles, Rocks Or Gravel Filled Bag, And Level Three Steel Shot Filled Bag.

[BoarSpear]

Doesn't Master Pan hit steel 2000 times a day and still has use of his hands... but they do look beat up around the knuckles.
I think I saw him on a PBS martial arts program.

Whats an Iron Palm Herb... I was reading about people using substitutes to treat bruises.

I also read that they say it's more internal then external conditioning.


Edit: I found a link to someones Iron Palm site: http://www.themartialist.com/pecom/ironpalm.htm

UGH yeah master pan does hit a steel plate 2000 times per day, with ONE hand, and the one hand has become essentialy a club, they only do that to one hand so they have one good hand...have you ever seen his hands in person The iron fist hand has a white raised callous about 2 inches around and raised where his first two knuckles used to be.

[BoarSpear]

I Didn't Avoid The Question I Just Didn't Answer It. The Reason Why Is Like I Said You Have Already Shown Me The True Way You Are A Grumpy Old Man That Thinks He Knows It All And In Truth Has Barely Scratch The Surface. My Hand Are Just Fine And So Are Chase's.

in other words no one taught you to do this, you read a couple books bottled their formula and viola youre an ironpalm expert...if you used the program you listed you would know it destroyed your hands hopefully you start using it and it cripples you as bad as it does the victims youre trying to make money from

[IronPalmArts]

in other words no one taught you to do this, you read a couple books bottled their formula and viola youre an ironpalm expert...if you used the program you listed you would know it destroyed your hands hopefully you start using it and it cripples you as bad as it does the victims youre trying to make money from

My Teachers Are The Shoalin Monks At The Temple In Georgia But, I Have Had Many Teachers And Know Many Different Techniques In Different Styles. I'm Not A Master And Do Not Claim To Be. Your Hands, Mind, And Body Will Cripple Way Before Mine Will Because Of The Negative Aura You Carry With You.