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  • #16
    Originally posted by WiLd-EyEd
    Only a dumbass teenage moron would find it necessary to cut weight one week before a match I useto wrestle at the 215# class and had to cut weight a couple times to go down to the 189. The results were not good.

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    As you have just admitted, you were a no-good fish and couldn't buy a win if you had a million bucks. You do not know what you are talking about, so shut yer pie hole, fish.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by WiLd-EyEd
      I useto wrestle at the 215# class and had to cut weight a couple times to go down to the 189. The results were not good.

      Well as a HW you did not need to cut weight on a regular basis or worry about diet so cutting 26lbs would be a problem. I was paranoid about weight so I was always under I never wanted to cut those 2lbs just before weighins. But peopel do the last minute weight loss in HS and college and the results are not always disasterous becuase its only a few lbs...........26lbs big difference dude. Infect if you knew that you had to cut then you should have stayed at a lower weight so you would not have so much weight to cut.

      Also, ease up on the assumptions you don't know why he only has one week to loose the weight. He may have just found out about the tournament.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by jubaji
        As you have just admitted, you were a no-good fish and couldn't buy a win if you had a million bucks. You do not know what you are talking about, so shut yer pie hole, fish.
        Actually, I was one of the best. Iwas a no-good fish only when I cut weight - the rest of the time I was pretty awesome. "formidable" is how the local papers put it. I did eventually find out I prefered hitting to huggin', plus they tol me at 23 I was getting too old to wrestle, if you know what I mean...

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        • #19
          Originally posted by WiLd-EyEd
          they tol me at 23 I was getting too old to wrestle, if you know what I mean...
          I guess you have to leave Jr High sometime....

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          • #20
            Originally posted by jubaji
            I guess you have to leave Jr High sometime....
            Yeah, an I was like this close to getting my diploma!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by WiLd-EyEd
              Yeah, an I was like this close to getting my diploma!
              Its over-rated anyway.

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              • #22
                My view, yet again, don't do anything that causes you to lose a lot of water, including the sweat clothes and paper bag idea. The amount of harm, whether you want to admit it or not, is not worth it. A healthy diet and plenty of exercise should cause a person not in top fitness to naturally lose weight without losing water and causing problems with their body.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Megawolf
                  My view, yet again, don't do anything that causes you to lose a lot of water, including the sweat clothes and paper bag idea. The amount of harm, whether you want to admit it or not, is not worth it. A healthy diet and plenty of exercise should cause a person not in top fitness to naturally lose weight without losing water and causing problems with their body.
                  You must have had some horrible experiences cutting weight. Please elaborate.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by jubaji
                    Its over-rated anyway.
                    Easy for you to say, took me years to get through pre-med after that.

                    But I did learn a bit of Spanish...

                    "Dondi ti du-ay-lay? "Necessitas mas agua!"

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by BadgerFu57
                      I need to cut about 6 pounds in a week. Anyone with experience have ideas? I am willing to dehydrate myself like crazy.

                      Hey Badger, How was the tournament. Give us an update when you get a chance.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by jubaji
                        You must have had some horrible experiences cutting weight. Please elaborate.

                        Me personally no because I am not that stupid. But sadly I have had friends that stupid, most worried about their weight and thinking water is just weight so get rid of it theory. Doesn't work too well, plus in medical journals it says serious weight loss due to willingly losing water can be extremely dangerous. As for my past I have no intentions of elaborating on friends ideas, they know my opinion. But doing something like that is very dangerous and could end you up in the hospital. I feel if someone keeps healthy and eats and lives healthy, not too overboard of course, then they should not worry about their weight and if they do then they need to grow up because nothing is that important. A proper diet and exercise along with plenty of laughter, even if over stupid stuff, should keep just about anyone healthy and where they should be in life.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Megawolf
                          Me personally no because I am not that stupid. But sadly I have had friends that stupid, most worried about their weight and thinking water is just weight so get rid of it theory

                          I think that you are confusing concepts. Long term dieting and lifestyle change (including aerobic and anarobic conditioning) I would agree with 100%. In the long term you are correct people if people believe that weight loss due to the reduction of water or muscle equals actual loss of fat they are grossly mistaken.

                          However, in the immediate shortterm a drop of 6lbs to "make weight" in not so bad,the plastics not "paper" bags just facilatate the sweating just as staying in a sauna room (which is another option). I have lost more than 6lbs of water in wrestling practice with just a sweat shirt on. I would not reccommend that for long term use nor would I say during the summer months but it is still winter in most places. I know that you could not have wrestled, boxed or been involved in a sport that involves weight classes.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Megawolf
                            Me personally no because
                            Then shut up

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by IPON
                              I know that you could not have wrestled, boxed in been involved in a sport that involves making weight.
                              It could not be more obvious.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Megawolf
                                DO NO DEHYDRATE YOURSELF. Not to be rude, but there is NEVER an excuse for that. Never, never, never, never dehydrate nor starve yourself, you will only do massive damage and recieve negative gains in whatever goal you wish to achieve unless it is a painful death possibly.

                                If you want to lose weight then practice 50 punches with each arm in 4 different stances. It will equal up to 200 over all and if you do it right will start you on an upper body workout. Along with that do 50 blocks the same. The two stances are right foot in front of the left, and then vice versa. Use right hand 50 times, left hand 50 times, switch feet, then right hand 50 times, and then left hand 50 times. Same with blocks. It may seem weak to some, but you will in time feel the difference. Then once it feels natural to do that and your punches and blocks go in almost the same path, then increase to 100, then 150, then 250, then 500 with each hand in increments not getting in a rush. A rush means improper training and you lose a lot of the benefit. On the blocks, you do it in like a waxing move from outside to inside, then inside to outside, that is one rep of it with that arm. Trust me, you will feel the results and stay as hydrated as you can and eat a proper diet, especially good in protein, fiber, and calcium.

                                For your lower body, do a jog for about 1/2 a mile, then when that feels normal go to 1 mil, then 2 miles, then 3 miles, then 4, then 5 increasing it by the mile. Also do leg kicks in reps. Same two stances, waxing kick in, waxing kick out, same as if blocks or punches. Then to work on your tummy a bit, do very slow situps, about 20, then 40, then 50, then 75, then 100. If you do them slow and do it right it should burn. Then to do stretches while working your midsection, both front and back, stand with your feet under their respective should, kinda like you're riding a horse type stance except not as far down. Then sway your shoulders left until your right shoulder is 90 degrees to both your right and left foot and in front of your strating position, then sway to your right until your left shoulder does the same which is then one rep. Be sure that always ending your rep count, that you end up back into your starting position. Start with 25 reps, then 50 reps, then increase it as needed in reps by 50 afterwards. You will lose fat, gain muscle, and become a lot healthier that way, plus increase your possible fighting potential.

                                I got this seemingly.


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                                cutting weight 03-09-2004 03:37 PM You don't know what you are talking about



                                Ok, to whomever ranked me as this in negative, I will prove what I am saying was and is true. Before judging me and my information, you need to educate yourself as I have done for many years. I don't disclose my background for reasons and be careful those who want to promote the actions listed in support against what I have advised, because unlike this website, you don't have a disclaimer, so please do research first. Some are edu sites and I may post gov sites also.

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                                "A weight loss of water between 5 and 10% of body weight is serious dehydration. Water loss can lead to:

                                Low blood pressure.
                                Heat exhaustion (person will have cool, clammy skin).
                                Heat stroke (severe dehydration).
                                "

                                "In addition to water, potassium and sodium are lost in sweat during high-intensity exercise. These nutrients are important for:

                                Maintaining fluid balance.
                                Transmitting nerve impulses.
                                Contracting muscles.
                                "

                                "Some bizarre and dangerous eating habits can develop. For example, wrestlers striving to qualify for lower weight classes may try to control their weight by:

                                Crash dieting.
                                Using diuretics and laxatives.
                                Inducing vomiting.
                                Wearing plastic suits to force perspiration.
                                Taking contrast showers (hot-and-cold) to make themselves urinate.
                                Even if daily multivitamin and mineral supplements are taken, deficiencies can occur with such bizarre eating behaviors. In addition, such behavior places a strain on the heart, digestive system, liver, and kidneys.
                                "

                                Source for above is listed at http://www.four-h.purdue.edu/foods/M...s%20frame1.htm


                                The next one is by MIT about overall athlete health and even explains the dangers of some of losing too much water or some of the crash water and food losing diets expressed. One would have to be dense to ignore information from one of the most respected universities in the world. http://www.mit.edu/afs/sipb/project/...athletics.html

                                Just look for the following on the above listed site, see how serious what some of you are suggesting could be.

                                "Symptoms of dehydration: Progressive Fluid Loss

                                5% - 6% body weight loss
                                thirst
                                impairs body temperature regulation
                                dizziness
                                loss of appetite
                                increases pulse and respiratory rate
                                mental confusion
                                lethargy
                                increasing weakness
                                anxiety
                                heat exhaution
                                nausea
                                heat stroke
                                irritability
                                death"


                                I could go on for hours and even pages listing resources because I have learned quite well what it could do and have seen what happens to people whom try some of this weight losing stuff. Whomever thought I was stupid let me know if these are not enough sites and I will easily post more and more and more until you finally get convinced of the truth. For those who thought water loss and crash diets were the way, they're not. They're dangerous and the only true good way for weight loss is long term arobic exercise and a proper diet, plain and simple fact. If you don't like facts then don't judge me, just try your own ideas themselves until you finally realize too late what you did, just be sure to let me know ahead of time so I can monitor it so I can when something bad does happen, mention you for a darwin award or at least an honorable mention in it. The above are some facts from just universities, many other universities and government agencies have the same posts, some in a lot more detail and if the above is not enough to satisfy your opinion, then let me know cause I can keep posting to no ends websites, quotes, and so forth from research data. Goodnight and have a nice day.

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