Daily Egg Intake!

[bred]

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Because only "mass gainers and meal replacements" contain high sugar and you would have to poison yourself with mercury to eat enough tuna to get the same benefit. And like I have mentioned it is actually cheaper and more effective to supplement. And I like to debate. Sometimes I learn something.

[HtTKar]

I take a multi-vitamin everyday because I want to make sure that I get what my body wants. I could go without, but I can afford to take a vitamin. This is a supplement. I also take whey protein, because your body absorbs it faster than other forms of protein, and I do not have the time to sit around cooking high-protein foods all day long. I still stay on a good diet, but I make sure that my body gets all that it can use...I make sure that I get all my essential amino acids, and essential fats. I could live without these. I could live without a lot of things. Really, all you NEED is food, water, and shelter. Everything else is a luxery. But to me they are supplements only, and only beneficial for health.
Whey protein is not steroids or anything of the sort. Its more like drinking evaporated milk than anything else. You definitely do NOT need nutritional supplements if you have a great diet, and the time to prepare good meals all the time.

[koto_ryu]

You definitely do NOT need nutritional supplements if you have a great diet, and the time to prepare good meals all the time.

The most supplement I really take is a multivitamin for men (ones without iron, men get enough iron in their diet already so we really don't need much more in our vitamins). As for my diet, much of what I eat is simple, ready-to-eat proteins as I don't have much time for cooking: peanut butter, milk, nuts, tofu, and the like. When I can cook, its typically grilled chicken. I eat plenty of fruits and vegetables, occasionally a little bit of rice, and that's basically it.

[HtTKar]

Eggs info

Thats a pretty good diet, koto. Similar to mine, though I dont eat rice.
I decided to look up eggs nutritional info for Self.

http://www.eggs.org.nz/nutrition.htm

Eggs and Protein
A combination of amino acids, some of which are called essential because the human body needs them but can't synthesize them. The human diet must regularly supply protein which contains all of the essential amino acids. The egg boasts them all: histidine, isoleucine, leucine, lysine, methionine, phenylalanine, threonine, tryptoOphan and valine. They are present in a pattern that matches very closely the pattern the body need, so the egg is often the measuring stick by which other protein foods are measured.

In addition to the 9 essential amino acids, there are 9 other amino acids in an egg. Altogether, each Large egg provides a total of 6.25 grams of high-quality, complete protein. For this reason, the egg is classified with meat in the food categories. One egg = 1 ounce of lean meat, fish or poultry. A Large egg provides 10 to 13% of the Daily Reference Value for protein and varying amounts of many other nutrients.
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6.25 grams of protein is not a lot, but its good, highly digestible protein. Again, one of my favorite sources of protein is fresh-water farm raised frozen shrimp. 16-19 grams protein per serving, 55 calories, low in sodium and cholesterol, and only 10grams of fat. I could practically eat these all day long. Kinda sound like bubba from forest gump a little huh?

[Self]

Lol, Thanks HtTKar for posting that info, most interesting, Oh and all the others that have spared their time to to reply

[Ethanael]

When I eat my eggs, I de-yolk them. Usually, I have the de-yolked eggs on a sausage biscuit or something. It gets you a lot of protein at once. Wash it down with a glass or two of protein and calcium enriched orange juice, a glass of vitamin D fortified whole milk, and choke down an herbal immune system supplement, then a multivitamin. That gets you a lot of protein really fast, and I guess that is what you want. The herbal supplement that I use just builds up your immune system and comes in a nice pill form.
Just don't eat nothing but meat, because that will destroy your liver in a few years if you aren't careful.

[HtTKar]

The herbal supplement that I use just builds up your immune system and comes in a nice pill form.

If you're healthy you dont need a supplement for your immune system. Also take my word on this; If you're taking echinacea you could be doing more harm that good. Echinacea makes your body respond by creating more T-cell white blood cells. But this only works for about 4 days. After this time, your body adapts by naturally producing fewer and fewer T-cells until it's back at its normal levels. In short, echinacea should be used for no more than 4 days at a time with 1-week breaks in between usage.

[shirase]

Im not really on any side of any argument here, Id just like to say a few things ive heard/read in various places. Ive read several bodybuilding articles on nutrition and it said that you should have at least a 3:1 ratio of carbs to proteins in every meal, because carbs jumpstart musclebuilding.
Also, I in a book by the Guvna of califohnia there is an example of gaining strength and mass. It has an example of a boxer who runs int he morning, works out with weights after, and has a boxing workout later in the day. Apparently, the boxer would recieve the strength gains of the weightlifting without gaining much mass, because of the other intense activities he did in the day. Im not sure, but that might mean that since you guys probably do martial arts training, then you could consume protein shakes and the like and not gain too excess muscle mass.

I also have a question: how come you guys dont want to gain muscle mass? It helps improve your striking power, and it can be useful in grappling, and generally anywhere your weightcan be used. The only reason I could think of for not wanting to gain muscle mass is to stay in a weight class, or because you ar a marathon runner or the like.

[shuyun]

tuna, tofu, whole wheat. Lotsa proetein in there. But multivitamins are supplements as well. Vitamin and mineral supplementation are critical to the proper absorption of the protein or else it will be wasted.

you gotta have lotsa fiber too or you'd have an over production of hydogen sulfide (fart)

[EmptyneSs]

anyone know how to make something tasty with eggs? everytime i make eggs they dont taste too good. i dont know how to make good eggs.

[Self]

yeah thats a good question, i can manage boiled and omelette and thats the end of my repotoire. I would also like to know what can be done more interesting.

[shuyun]

anyone know how to make something tasty with eggs? everytime i make eggs they dont taste too good. i dont know how to make good eggs.

there's always good old fashioned salt.

of course not too much.

and never ever forget your 8 glasses plus of water a day. I always carry at least a liter of water with me. usually thats done in one go. so moderate use of salt i do goes down the drain. it's not unusual for me to drink at least 3 liters of water a day.

i also watch what i eat but i don't do the trim the fat off the meat thing though i choose the least fatty part and take it in. I'm moving back to using whole milk as opposed to skimmed milk because it takes more of my stress away.

i'm a martial artist not a body builder. i live healthy without becoming a health nut.

[Enzo566]

Wow seriously these forums never cease to amaze me. The Diet plans i find here, that would normally take me a while to figure out myself.

I think some of u could go into a career of personal trainer.

Question about they whey protein.

I bought a few protein bars, they are called Muscle Sandwhich, they have Whey protein, Peanut butter and nouget.

Now i know like Creatine and all that other unnatural stuff is a cheat.... Dont bother trying to convince me its not. but is Whey protein?

Cause i wanted to take these bars, becuase i have no lunch in school, so that i can get out an hour early. And my last class is my Strength training class. So i try and munch on fruit and drink alot of water during they day but i lack protein. So i figured i could eat one of these bars before lifting or doing cardio, to give me some energy, and fill my stomach a bit.

I just wanna know everyones opinion on this, cause i heard eating protein before and after workouts help u gain size. I mean dont get my me wrong im trying to gain more size, but i want that size in muscle and cut up, not in fat.

[EmptyneSs]

protein is not cheating. u need protein, and if u work out, u need double the amount of protein the average person does. is taking something that your body needs cheating?

eating protein before and after working out is a good idea, but u definately need it right after u work out. u should eat protein within the next 30 min after u are done working out, because that is when your muscles are going to be absorbing nutrients the most. ive heard some people even go as far as saying that if u dont eat protein within 30 min of ur workout, u have wasted much effort. protein isnt the only thing u need though, u need to eat carbs too, because your body uses carbs as fuel, and if u dont get enough carbs your body will start using proteins instead, which u dont want.

as for eggs, eggs are good, but the cholestoral in the yolk is just way too much. the reccomended daily intake for cholestoral is under 300 mg, an egg yolk has like 200+. eating egg yolks all the time is very bad for u.

the best thing i can reccomend is healthy meal replacement shakes. im not talking about the rediculous weight gainer shit. i drink a meal replacement shake sometimes when i dont have time to eat, or sometimes after a hardworkout. health food stores have alot of good kinds of powders that include protein and tons of different vitamins and nutrients and are low in sugar and fat, and dont contain rediculous ammouns of protein. they arent for body builders, they are just for people who dont have time to eat a decent meal so they can make a quick shake on the go, but they are great for people who workout cause u are getting a quick boost of nutrients to your body.

[HtTKar]

I posted this before, but this is a good thread to post this information again.


When it comes to Whey Protein, you have three choices:


Whey Protein Concentrate (WPC) = is a high-quality why protein that is filtered to remove a good portion of the carbs and fat. Most products on the shelves today are about 70-80% protein.

Whey Protein Isolate (WPI) = is a purer form of why protein than concentrate, because it’s processed even further by way of ion-exchange chromatography. This process allows for a powder that is greater than 90% protein. Additionally, it’s a good choice to use when you are dieting because it has a lower carbohydrate and fat content than whey concentrate.

Whey Protein Hydrolysate (WPH) = is produced when WPC or WPI is taken through a final step know as hydrolysis. Hydrolysis breaks the bonds between amino acids, a job normally reserved for your digestive system. Without the extra workload, your system absorbs this type of protein even faster than WPI and WPC. This makes WPH a great choice for a post-workout shake.

*So WPH is one step better than WPI as it’s less taxing to your system to break it down.*


Casein Proteins

Casein protein makes up about 80% of the protein found in milk. Due to the clotting nature of casein (it forms a gel in your stomach), its digestion is slow and steady. In fact, consuming certain casein proteins can steadily deliver amino acids to muscles over a seven-hour time period. Having such a steady supply of amino acids has been show in scientific studies to prevent muscle protein breakdown, which some scientists suggests is just as important for muscle growth as enhancing muscle protein synthesis.

Whole Milk Proteins

To form whole-milk protein products, milk is taken through a gentle filtration process to remove the lactose and fat. This leaves both the casein and whey proteins intact, as well as the many other beneficial fractions. Because of this process, whole-milk proteins provide both the benefits of whey protein and casein. Most of the emphasis is on the casein benefits, as 80% of this protein is casein. This is a good protein, especially before bedtime, to deliver steady supply of amino acids to your muscles. However this type of protein isn’t optimal before or after workouts due to it’s slow digestion.