Since i don't use supplements or steroids and i need alot of protien with how much training i do, i was wandering how many you knew is recommended or healthy to eat? I read that the normal intake is 300mg of cholestral, one large egg apparently contains 213mg, but since when training the recommended calorie intake is 4000 which is almost double that of an average bloke. I'm wandering if the other intakes of this double? Anywho, even if it does i feel i'm still eating to many eggs. 4/5 a day is what i have now...?
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Originally posted by SelfSince i don't use supplements or steroids and i need alot of protien with how much training i do, i was wandering how many you knew is recommended or healthy to eat? I read that the normal intake is 300mg of cholestral, one large egg apparently contains 213mg, but since when training the recommended calorie intake is 4000 which is almost double that of an average bloke. I'm wandering if the other intakes of this double? Anywho, even if it does i feel i'm still eating to many eggs. 4/5 a day is what i have now...?
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Don't worry about eating a lot of eggs cause they're one of the best foods you can have. The fat in it is all natural and good for you. The yolk is the most nutritious part of the egg because its what the developing baby chicken or whatever feeds off and the white is just the part it floats around in.
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Originally posted by fanman.Don't worry about eating a lot of eggs cause they're one of the best foods you can have. The fat in it is all natural and good for you. The yolk is the most nutritious part of the egg because its what the developing baby chicken or whatever feeds off and the white is just the part it floats around in.
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Yes, if you are going to eat eggs for protein seperate the yolk from the white and eat the white. Is there a reason you don't use supplements? Whey protein tends to end up cost effective if you are trying to get a certain amount of protein through whole foods. I would suggest milk before eggs as it is a more complete type of protein.
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I'm overwhelmed by the responses, thanks for your input on this it really isn't the sort of thing i could find out about. I've taken it all on board, much appreciated. In answer to bred, i just feel a more natural approach for me is best and also i don't want to add bulk which may not be the case with supplements but its what i hear happens. In saying i'm going for the more ' natural approach ' it doesn't mean i necessarily think its better, but its the road i've chosen to go down.
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Originally posted by SelfI'm overwhelmed by the responses, thanks for your input on this it really isn't the sort of thing i could find out about. I've taken it all on board, much appreciated. In answer to bred, i just feel a more natural approach for me is best and also i don't want to add bulk which may not be the case with supplements but its what i hear happens. In saying i'm going for the more ' natural approach ' it doesn't mean i necessarily think its better, but its the road i've chosen to go down.
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Whey is the same whey in milk but for the amount of protein you get without the added calories it is a better more cost effective source of protein and truly only for pre-post workout . 1000 pushups is closer to a bodybuilding routine than you know and does more for endurance than strength. I have noticed a few people on this board confuse strength with endurance hmmmm. High rep means more fiber recrutement which means more fibers hypertrophy and its terrible for your joints in the long run. In strength training 2-4 reps a set is common. As far as bodybuilding/bulk goes eating more whole foods, meaning comsuming more calories would actually do more size adding than a whey shake.
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For strength without mass, this is what Pavels's naked warrior teaches. One-armed pushup, one-armed pullups, pistols. You can't do enough of them to injure yourself, but you do build up a lot of strength.
For protein.
Eggs; I'll cook up a dozen hard-boiled and put them in the fridge. I'll eat them whenever I need a quick snack. I remove the yolk because of the amount of cholesterol, and the amount of eggs I eat.
Shrimp has between 15 and 19grams of protein per serving. Shrimp has about 55 calories and little to no fat. This is an awesome source of protein, especially if you like shrimp. I also eat a lot of fish and other seafood.
Beef jerky, sunflower seeds, pumpkin seeds, cottage cheese, and cheese curd for snacks.
After working out, whey protein isolate or hydrolyzed whey drink. I also drink a lot of organic milk, about 1/2 to 1qt a day.
There are also a lot of soy foods that pack protein. Soy milk has 11grams per serving. Tempeh, and tofu have a lot of protein also. Soy burgers have about 18grams. For me the trick has been to just have a lot of different foods that pack proteins and enjoy my meals. Making sure that I get at least 1gram of protein per lb of bodyweight pretty much ensures that I only have time to eat high protein foods. I have found that the high protein diet makes it difficult to eat a lot of carbs also. Which is exactly what you want...this makes sure that your body uses the protein. Also make sure that you dont eat a lot of sugar. I know that sounds obvious, but everything has sugar in it anymore. Milk proteins are better than Soy proteins, and I'm not positive, but I think they're both better than meat proteins. I
have never and will never take steroids. What would be the point?
I hope this helps you out.
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Originally posted by bredWhey is the same whey in milk but for the amount of protein you get without the added calories it is a better more cost effective source of protein and truly only for pre-post workout . 1000 pushups is closer to a bodybuilding routine than you know and does more for endurance than strength. I have noticed a few people on this board confuse strength with endurance hmmmm. High rep means more fiber recrutement which means more fibers hypertrophy and its terrible for your joints in the long run. In strength training 2-4 reps a set is common. As far as bodybuilding/bulk goes eating more whole foods, meaning comsuming more calories would actually do more size adding than a whey shake.
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Calves foot jelly was originally thought to contain high amounts of protien due to it's collagen content but it is now known that protein in collagen is not bioavailable. Whey is not an artificial chemical. The big three sup.s are Whey, Creatine and Glutamine, none of which are artificial. Whey is in milk, creatine is in fish and glutamine is in something I can't remember at the moment. I beleive your body makes it's own supply but I forget the details as I am a non-responder and discontinued use a long time ago.
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Originally posted by bredCalves foot jelly was originally thought to contain high amounts of protien due to it's collagen content but it is now known that protein in collagen is not bioavailable. Whey is not an artificial chemical. The big three sup.s are Whey, Creatine and Glutamine, none of which are artificial. Whey is in milk, creatine is in fish and glutamine is in something I can't remember at the moment. I beleive your body makes it's own supply but I forget the details as I am a non-responder and discontinued use a long time ago.
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Those fancy drinks as you say aren't supplied or recommended in the military as far as i know, that is another reason why i do not take them since i am hoping on joining the marines when i'm old enough to do so. Also as a martial artist, don't you think that supplements are almost (not quite) a dependency for the user? I wouldn't know, it is a question and not a rhetorical one. Just like coffee i know for one improves your performance marginally but none the less still improves it and many drink it, so it could become somewhat of a dependency? And since one concept of martial arts to me is to not rely on anything that essentially you don't have to. I know Bruce Lee took some form of supplements, so i expect alot of discussion. Goodnight all
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Originally posted by SelfThose fancy drinks as you say aren't supplied or recommended in the military as far as i know, that is another reason why i do not take them since i am hoping on joining the marines when i'm old enough to do so. Also as a martial artist, don't you think that supplements are almost (not quite) a dependency for the user? I wouldn't know, it is a question and not a rhetorical one. Just like coffee i know for one improves your performance marginally but none the less still improves it and many drink it, so it could become somewhat of a dependency? And since one concept of martial arts to me is to not rely on anything that essentially you don't have to. I know Bruce Lee took some form of supplements, so i expect alot of discussion. Goodnight allAs for the Marines, you'll find plenty of guys taking them to be sure. I'm sure it probably could, as if you didn't have your shakes or whatnot before a workout you might not push yourself as hard or something similar to it.
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