whats the best way to increase punching power

[kevin green]

You cancover ten feet with that but evidently your'e one of these learn the shit standing still guys. Please modernize your thinking quit bowing and start moving!

[kevin green]

Although if I got caught skip stepping in with an overhand right my feet may end up over my head.

[Tom Yum]

Karate & TKD uses a skipping step to cover distance for kicking, but you'll never see boxers or muay thai fighters do it. And you still never see anyone go feet over head, midair.

How often do you play street fighter 2 and mistake it for reality?
You can 'repetitively bow' on my lap, beeoootch!

[RobertG]

Re: punching power

Originally posted by kevin green
The incline press is just more inline with how a punch is usually thrown compared to a regular bench press. You are bent over in a little more of an upward angle when you take into consideration
properly thrown Boxing type of punch.

I will always remember a college football coach told me in a weight training class that the triceps are your striking muscles, maybe when compared to the biceps.triceps push your arm out biceps are more pulling movement.
Secondly As far as feet over the head were talking street fights
people zigging instead of zagging .Under fighting tension the tendency to over react often leads to situations where some one may step into a punch but also some one may get caught moving away. Also in street situations there is alcohol involved which certainly affects your reactions. Be advised that any size disparity would be amplified on the street., and a boxer or martial artist would not tend to be caught as blatantly in an off balance or compromised position. Plus the adrenalin would be amped up
in a real life combat situation. Plus maybe you guys are just pussys that don't know how to hit.

Your high school football coach told you in a weight training class how to punch. Think about that for a second. Football coach. Football coaches generally don't coach boxers. Not to mention you played college football about 30 years ago (going from your bio). So weight lifting advice passed on from a football coach back then is not something I would take to heart in 2003.

Why would alcohol always be involved in a street fight? In a bar fight sure. Obviously. You could get jumped by a perfectly sober guy trying to jack your wallet. No alcohol necessary. And anyone, martial artists or not, can get caught in an off balance situation. All it takes is to be walking with some chick who's rack you can't take your eyes off.

Why do you insist on calling everyone on this board out? Actually most people on here know how to punch without your weak ass advice. Hell, even TKD people know enough to throw their damn hips into the punch. Arm punching is good for snapping jabs out. And snapping quick jabs is fine for the ring, but a bad idea for a real fight. You'd better put something on that punch in a real fight and it had better pack more weight behind it than just your arm.

[Tom Yum]

Rob G, welcome to the troll experience. They respawn and make silly claims like "if you stretch while crossing your legs it will make your elbow strikes faster"

Snake oil sales types seeking instant recognition with out a clue to what they are saying. For example:

Troll: "If you practice Micheal Jackson's moon walk 3 times, you can take powerfull kicks from Tong Po!"

[RobertG]

Well its not like I haven't seen plenty of other trolls around here Tom. This one is just particularly aggravating. Your average 15 year old guy troll is at least moderately amusing. The obsession over bowing was, actually, at first, moderately amusing. Then he started in with the whole homoeroticism stuff. That was the last straw.

[falcon3624]

Okay Kevin, how about you stand there and I will give you one free punch or should I say "push" from the triceps. Then you must give me one good shot using as many muscles as I want. LOL. Sounds like a one hit knock out to me. Sounds like not only do you not know crap about fighting or martial arts but you don't know crap about weight lifting either.

Forgive me if I did not read all of you posts but I can only swallow so much BS at one time.

[Akuma Kage]

...and the testosterone keeps booming...

Well, what kind of punches are you talking about in particular anyway? I mean, it kind of depends what form of punches you use and what kind of a style you hold...some punches, like in linear arts, use more arms and chest, whereas others may use mor hip power or specific circular motions to generate different kinds of power for different kinds of punches. In any case, I kind of have the same question, so for those of you who have an answer to this question, please supply what kind of punches you most effectively throw, their based style, and how you continue to keep them powerful and effective. I'd appreciate that kind of input.

[superbobby15]

thanks for the info i needed it, i will take up on it.

Latetly ive been trying one hand pushups(i can do 11)

Handstand pushups i been also doing(i can do 25)

And every other day i do the bench press(i weigh 130lbs, and my max is 210, i work out with 160.)I have one at home.

i also do one hand dumbell bench with the 30 dumbells( i can do 70 times) and sometimes i use the 60 dumbells( i can do only 10)
My weight training teacher says im strong for my size. which im not sure what he meant by that.

and punch and kick my punching bag that is on the ground ( it is filled with water.)

I might not be posting for a while because im 16 and i got school in a couple days.


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[BadgerFu57]

Do squats and lunges. The biggest problem I notice with a lot of people is overdependency on arm strength. I am fifteen and can bench +250 pounds but don't think that I depend on my pecs for all my punching power. I can get a whole lot more just by putting some hip into it. Technique makes a huge difference.

My friend who does pushups and bicep curls but no running or leg work has sloppy punches. He tries to be powerful but he has no leg power and therefore can't generate any hip power. Most of the time he just offbalances and over-exerts himself.

If you have a good jab (technique) you can keep an opponent busy while not overextending yourself. Trying to use your triceps like Keith said will only end up having you lock out your arms and hyperextending your elbow.

But what do I know. I am just 15. Hopefully not a troll. But man, when will the scientific method be applied to Martial Arts? I am freaking sick of all this point sparring techniques being thought of as applicable in real fighting.

[falcon3624]

No offense SuperBooby but I think you are exadurating a little on what you lift.

[superbobby15]

Hell now im not exaggerating, i was trained by jason bigg, and condsidered to him im weak, hes a black belt matial artist, who hasn't taught me a thing, all he did was put me through a big, harsh physical strength, stanima, endurance, training. Which hurt real bad,

when i started his physical training i was benching, 130, and within 4 months i went up 80lbs. actually the first time i had ever touched weights was when i met him.

I dont care what u think, cuz i dont lie.

and oh ya i work my legs all the time cuz i have to play football to

[falcon3624]

At 130lbs. you're almost too light to play the bench. LOL.

Just messing with ya. You should consider putting on some weight though.

[kevin green]

We all are born with literally millions of years of finely honed animal instincts and human kind is made up of survivors or our ancestors would have been killed and or eaten along time ago!
We all know how to fight at an early age, we are born with it.
Watch kids on a playground fight and wrestle around they know how to fight pretty much nothing fancy buy effective. THE SAME GOES FOR HITTING AND KICKING TOO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE "No Mind" in action . Just as applying your strength is exibited in the newborn and is talked about in trying to open a babies clenched fist , we are unlearning and relearning our whole life.
You will find in your lifes martial arts journey that skill aquisition is more the unlearning and relearning the basics. This is by becoming concious of our athletic movements and becoming self concious, exibited by such things as choking , losing your nerve. or even the " perfect practice" of mental imaging.
This is why it is so important to learn proper technique because it becomes ingrained in our neural pathways. The Russians have discovered and it is accepted that it takes 3,000 repetitions to learn or ingrain a sports skill but that it takes 10,000 repetitions to un- learn one learned wrong.
You will notice that animals and children accomplish sports skill naturally thru movement. This is also demonstrated thru sports and arts and when found to be pleasing to the eye is said to be
"aesthetically pleasing". You can see this in a race horse ,a good dancer, a well thrown kick , a good punch or throw.
What about punching or kicking from the ground?There is even throwing from the ground but how do you get your hips into a punch from the ground? (sometimes)
Ground fighting is even a series of movements but generally thought of as a static thing . A good grappler will go from one hold-down to another as his oppponent escapes from one to the next.
So I think that the way to judge a good insructor is by his emphasis on movement, keeping the dynamics of movement foremost. And any kind of power is generated from your toes ultimately thru your fingers (usually) and you can't exclude any part of the body just as you can't exclude body from mind.

[chris davis 200]

forget weights, that is my advice,

Unless you train but do more stretching than lifting.

A high degree of relaxation and looseness in your joints will create massive amounts of force.

Like a towel spun and snapped or a wip, lots of power from a loose object.

If you can develop the elasticity of your tendons and the connectivity of your skeletal structure then your will double that power. your whole body moving through something is better than individual muscle contraction.

cheers
Chris