advice needed.....

[Bjjexpertise@be]

1) I'd document everything that has happened thus far, including the various remarks made, any authority figures I'd approached for help, and their responses. Then, I'd take this document to the president or principal of the school. I'd let them know that I was fed up, that it was their responsibility to create an inclusive learning environment, and that they were failing. I'd tell them that this kid was no longer my problem, he was theirs; and I respectfully wanted something done about the situation. Then, I'd document their response, and wait for something to change.

2) If nothing changed, or if they showed no desire to do anything or take my complaint seriously, I'd wait until the next time it happened, and tell the kid to stop immediately.

3) If he didn't stop (which he probably wouldn't), I'd KICK HIS BEHIND right there. I wouldn't try to hurt him, but I would humiliate him. Then, I'd tell him, loud enough for everyone to hear, that if he did it again, the next time would be worse.

4) Then, if the school tried to take punitive action against me, I'd take my documentation to my parents, the school board, officials in my town, the local Asian-American association or Urban League, or anyone else I needed to take up my cause. We would be focused not only on reversing the School's punishment, but also why its administrators never took action when I made them aware of the situation.

I've handed his ass to him many times but the thing is they don't seem to get the point and keep on comming. I am a weak striker and focus more on grappling. There are many times i've taken him to the ground, applied a submission hold, told him to never bother me again, he agrees. Then the second I let go of the hold he comes at me saying stuff like "Oh so you think you're tough, Ching chong ching?" and try to beat me up again. Same thing would happen, I'd take him to the ground, submission hold, etc. So I guess using your tactic is out of the question.

Alright Jubaji, tellyou what... I'll report him to the teacher the next time this happens. If it continues then I'll report it to the dean. If it still continues after the dean finishes talking to him and his parents i'll start handing his ass to him every time he keeps insulting me after i've told him to **** off...

[jubaji]

Alright Jubaji, tellyou what... I'll report him to the teacher the next time this happens. If it continues then I'll report it to the dean. If it still continues after the dean finishes talking to him and his parents i'll start handing his ass to him every time he keeps insulting me after i've told him to **** off...

Now you're talkin'! Who knows? You might get yourself a nice daily workout routine going.

[Bjjexpertise@be]

Now you're talkin'! Who knows? You might get yourself a nice daily workout routine going.

I doubt it. Last couple of times I got him in a sub hold I wasn't even breathing hard yet. Maybe I could set new records to see how fast I could tap him....

[jubaji]

I doubt it. Last couple of times I got him in a sub hold I wasn't even breathing hard yet. Maybe I could set new records to see how fast I could tap him....

I hope you are not just gently holding him down. You need to include a good degree of pain in all this (if you're going to do it, as a last resort). 'Tapping' should not be an option.

[Bjjexpertise@be]

I haven't been gently holding him. I've applied a decent amount of pressure to all my holds. I've yet to use chokes though. I'm afraid I might kill him...

[jubaji]

I haven't been gently holding him. I've applied a decent amount of pressure to all my holds. I've yet to use chokes though. I'm afraid I might kill him...

Well, you certainly don't want to kill anyone. But a broken nose won't kill a person...

[Bjjexpertise@be]

Indeed...Jubaji have you ever faced these kind of problems when you were a teenager/kid?

[jubaji]

Indeed...Jubaji have you ever faced these kind of problems when you were a teenager/kid?

Never more than once from the same person.

[Bjjexpertise@be]

And why is that?

[Chilly Dog]

I've handed his ass to him many times but the thing is they don't seem to get the point and keep on comming. I am a weak striker and focus more on grappling. There are many times i've taken him to the ground, applied a submission hold, told him to never bother me again, he agrees. Then the second I let go of the hold he comes at me saying stuff like "Oh so you think you're tough, Ching chong ching?" and try to beat me up again. Same thing would happen, I'd take him to the ground, submission hold, etc. So I guess using your tactic is out of the question.

You obviously haven't USED my tactic, so you have no way of knowing whether it's "out of the question." Fighting him was a last resort in my advice -- I suggested a process before that (ie. document the harrassment, take it to the principal, etc.) Your response to Jubaji indicates you clearly haven't done this yet.

Furthermore, the fact that you say he's able to start right up again "the second I let go of the hold" also indicates that you haven't followed my last resort advice either. Remember, I said I'd "kick his behind." There would be no starting right up again. He'd be too busy recovering or crying. As I said, I wouldn't do permanent damage, but I definitely would make him pay, with pain and humiliation (for example, weak striker or not, if you hit or kicked him while he was in your submission hold, he's bound to start to get the point).

At some point you're going to have to do something more than reject the suggestions you're being offered. Why don't you try what we've suggested -- in the way we're suggesting it -- before dismissing our advice. If you're truly committed to finally getting him to stop, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at the result.

[jubaji]

And why is that?

The usual reason.

[Bjjexpertise@be]

chilly dog why won't this work?
"Alright Jubaji, tellyou what... I'll report him to the teacher the next time this happens. If it continues then I'll report it to the dean. If it still continues after the dean finishes talking to him and his parents i'll start handing his ass to him every time he keeps insulting me after i've told him to **** off..."

Bjj when you say that you've whooped his ass does that mean you pounded the absolute shit out of him or does it mean that you pinned him. They're to completely different things. This person apparently needs more a lot more PAIN to drive the point home.

If you're good at grappling when you get him on the ground, don't use a submission hold, just use your fists to nail him over and over. I hope you know how you pin somebody with your knees.

Hey maybe after 8 or so strong strikes you could ask him if he’d leave you alone. If he say’s yes, no or keeps on struggling, hit him over and over again.

I see.....

[Chilly Dog]

chilly dog why won't this work?

I think it will work -- it was basically the same thing I suggested. However, your response to me was after that one, so I thought you were choosing not to do it or anything similar.

But make sure you document all the times you've spoken to ANY adults at your school about this. That will be your protection if you're forced to implement the second part and someone tries to blame you. And, if you do have to fight, remember what we've all said. You've got to mean business. You're not trying to hurt him permanently, but he's got to decide he doesn't want you to do that to him again enough to stop harassing you.

[Tom Yum]

It was just that this time something told you that he was out for blood and wanted to hurt you bad, so you had to stop him, because unlike the other times you were concerned for your safety/well being.

You just weren't able to control him, he just kept on struggling and thrusting his hands towards you towards your eyes. He had to be stopped while you were still healthy, which is why the shit was pounded out of him.

That would work for someone without a violent/aggressive/racist history up against someone with that kind of history, but not the other way around.

[Bjjexpertise@be]

Well you could always not tell the teacher; just attack him when nobody else is around, insist that he attacked you, that you were acting in self-defense and that he had been physically abusive to you the past.

It was just that this time something told you that he was out for blood and wanted to hurt you bad, so you had to stop him, because unlike the other times you were concerned for your safety/well being.

You just weren't able to control him, he just kept on struggling and thrusting his hands towards you towards your eyes. He had to be stopped while you were still healthy, which is why the shit was pounded out of him.

I like this plan I should try it out sometime
The amazing thing is that if he hits me back it's automatically a hate crime :P