Fear......

[KenshiRyan]

help

I got a similar problem, some ass started threatening me (online lol) In the hollidays I know who he is but have never had a conversation with him and the school pretty much makes out hes "untouchable" because of his size (he doesnt do any martial art, possably like a month of boxing training), I stood up for myself (as i always do) but im a bit worried lol hes a bit taller than me and quite a bit wider in proportion to me (im a bit skinny, a bit bellow average) i dont think hes completly fat though, no doubtally he will come with all his friends etc and yell a few "taunts" at me before hand which is the part im worried about, i dont mind to much if a fight starts as i dont really care if i get hurt in a fight i will still keep going, (im not trying to be a "hardass" if thats the attitude im giving off with that quote) i thought i should make good use of kicking if hes a "boxer", i just want to hear other peoples opinions on the situation, any help would be great.

age group in this is 15-16 year olds

(btw i have done about a years training in Shorinji kempo and am will be training for the rest of my life)

[Garland]

Holy shit...a 16 year old who can actually write a coherent and passable post.

[gabbah]

This thread made me think of an incident high school, a fond memory...
Me and my friends were probably seen as "good students", that is, not in the least tough guys.
So one time when three of us were having lunch at school, the student helping out in the school restaurant came to our table. The students had to take turns helping out in the restaurant, picking up plates and stuff other students had left on the tables because they're lazy, and also wipe the tables.
Anyway, this time it was one of the schools crazy looking black guys, a thug, and he was pretty big. There was a plate on the table near us that someone had left, and instead of picking it up like he was supposed to, he asked us (but he actually TOLD us) to clean it.
None of us wanted to do it because it was just wrong, that plate had nothing to do with us... but it was either that or to deal with this guy who had murder in his eyes, lol.
So I told him "nah, that ain't mine, sorry dude" and tried my best not to look bothered. He stared at us and couldn't believe what I had just said! I had refused to obey one of the schools tough guys, who was half a head taller than me and a lot stronger.
He asked us again to take it. Again, I just said "nah", and didn't even look at him, as if he didn't matter to me. He was sort of standing in our face, in an agressive manner... we could hear his blood was boiling and his tone of voice had a very agressive way about it. There was lots of tension in the air so to speak, and I saw my two buddies looking at me like "what are you doing, trying to get us in trouble?". So after what seemed like an eternity of that guy staring us down, one of my buddies caved and said "I'll do it...".
My heart was beating so fast, but I tried my best to hide it. I got up with my own plate and left, giving the bully a grin.

Next time I saw him he was standing in the back of the restaurant where people get out (his job was to make sure people didn't go in that way I think), I just smiled at him, and he smiled back. He knew I had called his bluff, and was not afraid of him.
After that day every time I passed, he said hello. We both knew he had tried to pull a bully manoeuver there, and after that day he had respect for me, since I had stood up to him when nobody else did, and I was so much smaller than him. :P
lol he prolly thought "there goes the crazy little fellah.. don't wanna mess with a lunatic!".

[Garland]

It's a less physical type of "chin check".
A good way to check and see if somebody's a bitch or a bottom.

[gabbah]

It's a less physical type of "chin check".
A good way to check and see if somebody's a bitch or a bottom.

Who are you calling a bitch, BITCH??!!

Nah but serioulsy.. "bitch or a bottom"?

[KenshiRyan]

Thanks Gabbah, sounds quite familiar as I usually only hang round 3 my friends and I supose we are sortve "good" kids, although I doubt he will bluff, i sorta get the idea he was just doing it to try piss me off and see if I would retaliate. hopefully hes got the idea that i dont back down easily, any more opinions would be great, ( thank you for your compliment Garland heh heh)

[gabbah]

Well I think you should see the previous posts, they have some good advice I think, white devils advice especially.
You need to stand up to that guy... so if you meet him later make sure he understands you are not afraid, and be ready to go full out at any moment with him. Like someone wrote, see it as a test in your life. Before hand you can psyche yourself up, and go through a hard fight in your head. Try to see it as if that's something you WANT to happen.
If you have that in the back of your mind when you see him and talk to him, it will shine through in your body language and choice of words, so he will see you are not going to back down ever, that you're ready to bleed to win. If he still wants to fight you and keeps pressing it... well then the fight would have happened anyway sooner or later. Or he would just keep picking at you until you went mad.

[KenshiRyan]

I saw white devils post, it was the best in this thread, the only thing i get annoyed with is when i get into situations like this and its face to face i get watery eyed if you know what i mean, its really annoying because obviously they will think im scared or some crap like that even though theres no way that i am ( has any one else had this problem?) I supose its all in my head but its still really annoying and hard to control my current way im tyring to fix this, is to not care at all if I get watery eyed who cares just continue to stand up for myself, and obviously if there going to attack me show them then that im not scared at all. any advice?

[gabbah]

Well if you have that problem and can't do anything about it, then acting as if you're not worked up perhaps won't work, as he will see in your eyes you are reacting in some way.
So perhaps you should go with what I said about "looking forward" to fighting him. I mean, that's what he uses to scare people, he depends on people being afraid of a physical fight. So when he starts to be in you face, you start like wanderlei silva, staring back like a mad man with a crazy smile that says "finally I get to pound you face in".
If you're familiar with Geoff Thompson (I think it was him) he advocated this "over playing of agression" or whatever you want to call it.
Basically you mimic a mad dog that wants to be let out of his cage, just waiting for a reason to start the fight... so of course, if he touches you, you need to start pounding his face in, because then he has called your bluff.
I think the madman style might go well with your watery eyes. :P
But remember, then you have to psyche yourself up to the point where you almost honestly WANT to fight him. And the positive thing about if a fight actually occurs is you gain experience, and if you fight like a madman, he will nor anyone else will bother you.

[KenshiRyan]

ill just remember " imagine what it will be like to take down the apparent 'invincible' " and i think in white devils post " you are the best there is", hehe maddog that shouldnt be to hard, ill post about the whole occasion if he confronts me when we get back to school, thankyou very much for the advice.

[gabbah]

Yeah, let us know later what happened (or what hopefully didn't happen hehe).

[Garland]

Who are you calling a bitch, BITCH??!!

Nah but serioulsy.. "bitch or a bottom"?

a bitch, as in a prison bitch...think about the bottom statment...I'm sure it'll come to you.

[Garland]

staring back like a mad man with a crazy smile that says "finally I get to pound you face in".
this "over playing of agression" or whatever you want to call it.
Basically you mimic a mad dog that wants to be let out of his cage, just waiting for a reason to start the fight... so of course, if he touches you, you need to start pounding his face in, because then he has called your bluff.
But remember, then you have to psyche yourself up to the point where you almost honestly WANT to fight him.

You're supposed to FAKE that?
Oh man...it looks like I may have some deep rooted psychological issues.
There have been times where I've wanted to splash the other person's blood all over the walls and make finger paintings with it, put it in a glass and blow bubbles into it like a kid with chocolate milk.


...anyone want some pcp?

[gabbah]

a bitch, as in a prison bitch...think about the bottom statment...I'm sure it'll come to you.

Ah, I'm think I'm starting to see the way you think Garland, and it ain't a pretty sight.

You're supposed to FAKE that?
Oh man...it looks like I may have some deep rooted psychological issues.
There have been times where I've wanted to splash the other person's blood all over the walls and make finger paintings with it, put it in a glass and blow bubbles into it like a kid with chocolate milk.

Garland, at some point you will just have to accept the fact that there actually are normal, socially functional people on this board as well, not just loonies like you.
But we love you still Garland. We love you, the way you love a dog mad with rabies. (Hmm... you feel sorry for it then you put it down with a shot to the neck?).

[Tom Yum]

I got a similar problem, some ass started threatening me (online lol) )

Collect each written threat, one by one and make a report of it. If you are on a message board such as this one or another one - say Myspace - request the IP address of the individual in question.

Are you certain that the guy threatening you is the guy you think? Find this out first. This may take a while. If you've never talked with him before, are you sure its him? What exactly is he saying?

Make copies of those reports and hand them to the principal to cover your ass.

In the hollidays I know who he is but have never had a conversation with him and the school pretty much makes out hes "untouchable" because of his size (he doesnt do any martial art, possably like a month of boxing training), I stood up for myself (as i always do) but im a bit worried lol hes a bit taller than me and quite a bit wider in proportion to me (im a bit skinny, a bit bellow average) i dont think hes completly fat though, no doubtally he will come with all his friends etc and yell a few "taunts" at me before hand )

How big is he? You say you're a bit skinny - what 180lbs?

If you think he's going to come with his friends, you better have some of yours with you. You kids still carry around those sharp compases or rulers with razors edges?

which is the part im worried about, i dont mind to much if a fight starts as i dont really care if i get hurt in a fight i will still keep going, (im not trying to be a "hardass" if thats the attitude im giving off with that quote) i thought i should make good use of kicking if hes a "boxer", i just want to hear other peoples opinions on the situation, any help would be great. (btw i have done about a years training in Shorinji kempo and am will be training for the rest of my life)

Frikkin' stand up for yourself.... Sounds like you already are. The guys is bigger than you and this will work in your favor in terms of self defense.

If he gets close, yell "BACK OFF!"

People will see what's going on. If not, throw your kicks with full intent. Keep your hands up. Watch out for his hands and if you get the chance, spear-fist into the soft parts of his body.