Fear......

[KenshiRyan]

If his friends jump in, I cant do much about that apart from defending myself, I dont think my friends would jump in and try defend me, (although Id rather them try help me, Iv begun to notice a friend that will put themselves in danger to help another is quite rare these days), what should I do in terms of getting a equalizer in such a situation?

[g-bells]

If his friends jump in, I cant do much about that apart from defending myself, I dont think my friends would jump in and try defend me, (although Id rather them try help me, Iv begun to notice a friend that will put themselves in danger to help another is quite rare these days), what should I do in terms of getting a equalizer in such a situation?

anything can be used as a equalizer - keys, stick,gravel.etc. if you are worried about them jumping in then make sure your never alone . don't put yourself in that situation

[Tom Yum]

If his friends jump in, I cant do much about that apart from defending myself, I dont think my friends would jump in and try defend me, (although Id rather them try help me, Iv begun to notice a friend that will put themselves in danger to help another is quite rare these days), what should I do in terms of getting a equalizer in such a situation?

One step at a time.

Did you get the email address, IP and other related information on the person whom you believe is sending threatening emails to you? Did you take this to the school principal?

If not, you certainly should so they know about it. In the mean time, you've said this person has done this kind of thing before. To whom?

What exactly is this person saying, KenshiRyan?

[KenshiRyan]

Hes threatend me before, he does this on msn (like a real man) he claimed He was going to beat me up because somone told him Id been talking behind his back, I said "Why would I bother to talk about you in the first place?" he said " you getting smart?" " I said "look if somones told you this their lying and probly have a problem with me but are to scared to take it out with me in person, however if your doing this for laugh grow the **** up and stop thinking your a hardass threatening people" he said "We will meet again" I left and didnt reply. the only reason I dont know for sure if it was him is that I think maby one of his friends at his house couldve pretended they where him and then began threatening random people on his friends list for laughs, thinking that the people their threatening are going to take it and submit,however with me that wasnt the case. I dont think I need to tell the school principle etc as I said before no one would expect me to be the type to get into fights and hes larger than me, and the techers will probly just bring him in and question him so he will know Iv gone and told the techers and will hassle me for a long time because of it, I dont mind if I get suspended or whatever they do to me Id rather stand up for myself and get suspended or "punished" rather than submit to such a screwup and stay in school. Im just going to make it clear to him and everyone around that I dont want to fight (without running away of corse), if he comes in to do anything even a push thats when Ill make my move.

However Im just wondering Hitting the neck, In my martial art we have a attack called ShutoUchi which is a foward cutting motion to the side of the neck (to the side of all the wind pipes etc not actuly hitting the pipes) with the side of an open palm (hopefully you get an idea of what this is) Iv heard from people strikes to the neck are very dangerous but Iv heard from other people that this attack wont kill them but will do alot of damage and Id say leave a big bruse nothing fatal though, Im wondering would such an attack actuly kill somone? because I dont want to go using it if it would do such a thing.

Unless of corse I have no choice but too.
(also excuse he language up the top)

[Tom Yum]

Hes threatend me before, he does this on msn (like a real man) he claimed He was going to beat me up because somone told him Id been talking behind his back, I said "Why would I bother to talk about you in the first place?" he said " you getting smart?" " I said "look if somones told you this their lying and probly have a problem with me but are to scared to take it out with me in person, however if your doing this for laugh grow the **** up and stop thinking your a hardass threatening people" he said "We will meet again" I left and didnt reply. the only reason I dont know for sure if it was him is that I think maby one of his friends at his house couldve pretended they where him and then began threatening random people on his friends list for laughs, thinking that the people their threatening are going to take it and submit,however with me that wasnt the case. I dont think I need to tell the school principle etc as I said before no one would expect me to be the type to get into fights and hes larger than me, and the techers will probly just bring him in and question him so he will know Iv gone and told the techers and will hassle me for a long time because of it, I dont mind if I get suspended or whatever they do to me Id rather stand up for myself and get suspended or "punished" rather than submit to such a screwup and stay in school. Im just going to make it clear to him and everyone around that I dont want to fight (without running away of corse), if he comes in to do anything even a push thats when Ill make my move.

However Im just wondering Hitting the neck, In my martial art we have a attack called ShutoUchi which is a foward cutting motion to the side of the neck (to the side of all the wind pipes etc not actuly hitting the pipes) with the side of an open palm (hopefully you get an idea of what this is) Iv heard from people strikes to the neck are very dangerous but Iv heard from other people that this attack wont kill them but will do alot of damage and Id say leave a big bruse nothing fatal though, Im wondering would such an attack actuly kill somone? because I dont want to go using it if it would do such a thing.

Unless of corse I have no choice but too.
(also excuse he language up the top)

You're approaching this the wrong way, Kenshi. If you can win a fight without throwing a strike, do it. There are peacful ways of resolving these kinds of situations - you've always got the option of submitting the docs to the principal, getting the IP address and all the information that confirmes that it is him.

Sounds like you are prepaired otherwise...

Good luck.

[Garland]

Note: Garland's advice is not very legal, and could get you hurt, expelled, or put into a juvenile detention program.


Man...from what I've seen...he's just being a prick.
Next time it happens, copy and paste his shit into a word program...and keep a log of all the shit he says to you. This way if he takes a swing at you, or bulldogs you into a real physical altercation, you have some evidence to back up your claims.

I would try and talk to him civily...that means, try to get ahold of him (not in person) and explain everything calmly. If he reacts in an aversive manner, tell him to **** off, and he's an impotent, limp dicked bitch. Say that you weren't talking shit before, but now he's proven himself to be a fuckup, so now you'll say that straight up to his face.

Tell him if he wants to make fucking threats, go ahead...but if he tries to act on them, he's fucked. If he confronts you in person, or looks at you funny, bully his ass. I said BULLY. The guy starts staring at you, ask him what the **** he's looking at. If he steps up and starts posturing, put up a fence, that means drop your chin, look him right in the numbers (the chest) and put your left hand up in front...if he bounces off of it, or if he tries to move your hand away, punch him in the face with your right hand, grab his shirt and keep punching away. If you can, as you're hitting him and pushing him back, try to get him against a wall or something hard or get him to trip over his feet and just kick the shit out of him. Pulling his shirt over his head is great too...hockey punch his ass. (then donkey punch his girl )

You have to have boundaries. You give a bully an inch, and they'll take a mile. If you kick the **** out of him, and if you have friends that will watch your back so you don't get jumped by his pals...that'll gain you some respect.

If he starts off on the other side of the cafeteria or something, and says something to you...yell out I LIVE FOR THIS SHIT!, and pull a Vanderlei Silva smile...splatter the fool. Don't be anyone's bitch or patsy...EVER.

[Garland]

If he won't be cool about it...it's your turn to be the asshole.

If you see him walking around the halls with his hands full of books...trip into him...whoops...or slap his books out of his hands, and when he leans in to pick them up, fall on him with your knees and elbows...God...I'm sorry I'm so clumsy. Spill coffee on him walking through the lunch room...and if he stands up and tries to take a swing...hit him with your lunch tray.

Make his life hell.

Start hitting on his girlfriend or little sister...but suave like...see if you can bed them. Become better friends with his friends than he is... cut him out of his own life.

If you buddy up with his friends, **** his sister, or steal his girl...and punk him every chance you get...you're now the Alpha male. It's all about dominance, man.

[Tom Yum]

If he won't be cool about it...it's your turn to be the asshole.

If you see him walking around the halls with his hands full of books...trip into him...whoops...or slap his books out of his hands, and when he leans in to pick them up, fall on him with your knees and elbows...God...I'm sorry I'm so clumsy. Spill coffee on him walking through the lunch room...and if he stands up and tries to take a swing...hit him with your lunch tray.

Make his life hell.

Start hitting on his girlfriend or little sister...but suave like...see if you can bed them. Become better friends with his friends than he is... cut him out of his own life.

If you buddy up with his friends, **** his sister, or steal his girl...and punk him every chance you get...you're now the Alpha male. It's all about dominance, man.

Everything you've said up to this point works, but it just as easily escalates things and before you know it, Garland, you've got another Columbine incident.

That's the last thing we need.

[Garland]

Everything you've said up to this point works, but it just as easily escalates things and before you know it, Garland, you've got another Columbine incident.
That's the last thing we need.

Just because two sniveling, pimple faced, geek ass goth wanabees went all sturm und drang on a school doesn't mean that's always the scenario. The psychological profile of a school shooter is generally the "opressed" and "picked on" little suburbanite lilly white douche...but that doesn't mean making the class puffer (fake hard-ass) your bitch by chin checking him will result in him sobbing home to pick the lock of his papi's gun cabinet.

This guy's the bully...and I'm sorry to say, but Kenshi fits the shooter profile more closely. Picked on, scared, vindictive...fed up...

Kenshi...please don't tell me you own a black trench coat.

[KenshiRyan]

Lol no way am I scared Garland, and Im not hoping to fight him, Id rather him just leave it as it is, and Iv never been the one to take crap like this In the first place so I cant FINALLY be fed up. All the stuff youve said before your most recent post Garland I supose would sorta work, but I wouldnt feel right doing such things, Im not going to go out there to offend anyone, Only when they say somthing to me is when I will reply, but I will always stay defencive rather than offencive with verbal arguements. (sometimes exciessively defencive hehe)
Tom yum, I understand what you meant with your first reply and I will try de-esculate any confrontations with him but I wont do it in such a way that makes him feel like hes got somthing over me, (hopfully you get what I mean)
If I can, I hope I can make him think twice about hassling anybody in future, that way I wouldnt only be standing up for myself but hopfully stoping him doing this in the future to other people.

(Iv also tried looking for any copies of what he said but my msn doesnt record any of the conversations, and I cant figure out how I can get it to do so, however if it happens again, Ill be sure to copy and paste it into a word document)

[Tom Yum]

KenshiRyan writes alot like Bluewave.

Psst - Blue, is that you?

[KenshiRyan]

Sorry Im not Bluewave, I only stumbled across this site a couple of weeks ago, whos is bluewave?

[KenshiRyan]

Thought id report on whats happend, been at school again 2 days and nothing has happend.......lol, i guess its best to look back on this and learn from it.

[Jeff Liboiron]

No matter how many times I have been confronted with criminal violence, I have been afraid every single time, so I know enough that fear never really goes away. Fear can have a multitude of effects, but the major two actions fear will drive you to do is either freeze up, and become helpless, or it will act as a catalyst to push you through the confrontation, and come out victorious. I personally think you try a little harder when you’re afraid.

Fear is an emotional reaction to a perceived threat or danger, and the emotional reaction from fear causes the biological reaction known as the adrenaline dump. The emotional reaction and the adrenaline dump cannot be controlled (well it depends), as they are natural bodily functions that our bodies are hard wired to do. What can be controlled is your physical response to fear. Usually when faced with an aggressor, he will attempt to make you go into a state of hypervigilance by using harsh verbal abuse before launching his attack. This tactic is deigned to make his victim say to themselves “oh my god, what did I do? Is this really happening?”

While the victim is frozen in fear the adversary will launch his attack, and basically beat his victim to a pulp, and possibly take the victims belongings….or worse. If anybody else is with the victim at that time, you can bet the adversary will do the same to them.

As mentioned in the first paragraph of this section, you want to learn to be able to use fear as a catalyst, and plow through your adversary like a bulldozer. One way I have found to train to do this myself is think of a family member, friend, etc that you love very much. Picture that you are witnessing the shit being beaten out of them. How do you feel now? You may be scared, but you can bet your ass you aren’t going to stand there and watch without taking action. Another useful analogy like to use is that when you attack your adversary, don’t think of doing it out of anger, hatred, violence, etc, but think of it as attacking out of love for yourself. There is someone in front of you, and they want to take away your safety, your pride, your dignity, and possibly your life. Are you going to let that happen? How do you think your family will feel when they get the call to come and identify your body?

To further understand the concept of using the emotion, fear, as a catalyst lets look at an example of a scenario. Imagine you are walking home, and a man is walking towards you on the same side of the street. As he gets closer, he grabs you by the collar, shoves a knife up to your neck, and says “Give me your fucking money! You scream, or try to get away, and you’re dead.” In looking at this scenario, you must ask yourself if you feel you are being threatened or challenged. Most people will say they are threatened. Since the brain guides the body, and you think you are being threatened, you have a good chance of going into hyper vigilance. You’ll freeze up, the attacker will get what he wants (which could be anything including your life), and you will be left with the emotional trauma, and physical injuries to deal with.

[gabbah]

Thought id report on whats happend, been at school again 2 days and nothing has happend.......lol, i guess its best to look back on this and learn from it.

Did you meet the guy or not?