Street survival tips that martial art teaches

[ninjachamp2]

1. Be alert at all times for trouble.
2. Prepare your mind and body for appropriate responses to attack.
3. Don't be dangerously defensive.
4. Expect to get hurt.
5. Don't go to the ground with an assailant.
6. Self defense and the law:A: Karate techniques were designed to be devastating and lethal. B: You are responsible for the end result caused by your primary actions.

[black knife]

1. Be alert at all times for trouble.
2. Prepare your mind and body for appropriate responses to attack.
3. Don't be dangerously defensive.
4. Expect to get hurt.
5. Don't go to the ground with an assailant.
6. Self defense and the law:A: Karate techniques were designed to be devastating and lethal. B: You are responsible for the end result caused by your primary actions.

I guess you are not a groundfighter due to rule #5.....

[kingoftheforest]

I guess you are not a groundfighter due to rule #5.....

It is usually good to avoid going to the ground in a street altercation, or self defense situation.

Sometimes it doesn't work out that way, but it's better to avoid it if possible.

[Tant01]

A fight isn't really FINISHED until the attacker is face down on the deck...

at least that's where I want him!

[ninjachamp2]

I just came across this interesting article by Tony James Mills on "Will MMA help you in a street fight?"

"Many people have asked, "Is MMA the best fighting style for self-defense on the street?" Obviously MMA fights originally came about from the desire to see which martial art or fighting style was the best. Since then instead of opponents solely using one style against another opponent using a different style fighters have learned to combine different styles and techniques into their armory. Of course certain fighting styles have proven more successful than others and are more widely used. Certain forms of wrestling and Brazilian Ju Jitsu have stood the test of time in the octagon. But a part of their success in competitions surely has to be attributed to combatants having to stick to the rules which limit those experienced in striking martial arts.

Obviously when it comes to a street fight there are no rules. Even if you are the on defending yourself you goal HAS to be to take down your opponent as quickly as possible and eliminate the threat and possibility of them continuing an attack. You certainly has to be versatile. Your opponent or attacker in the street definitely won't be sticking to any rules. Even the highest ranking black belt in martial arts like Tae Kwon Do can take a serious beating because their style isn't developed for the street, and they often haven't practiced fighting in real world situations in the dojo. It's like bringing a knife to a gun fight. So in partial answer to the question ' Is MMA the best fighting style for self-defense on the street?', yes I think we can all agree that you it will be helpful to have knowledge of MMA and be able to use different techniques.

However in a street fight are you going to be able to win by tapping someone out? Your chances are probably slim to none. For kids practicing styles like Judo give them great tools for being able to take down larger opponents and put attackers into holds that will immobilize the threat until their attacker has calmed down or given up. But for teenagers and adults this is rarely an option. Surely to succeed or win in anything especially for example sports it is essential to practice and get as much realistic practice as possible. Fighting training that includes real world situations and practicing defense against attacks like you would encounter in the street will obviously prepare you the best. Take Krav Maga as an example - in class they teach unarmed defense against an attacked using a knife or gun. They also train you to use your energy explosively when unexpectedly attacked. Most importantly using simulations of being attacked in the dark, or by multiple opponents etc develops your muscle memory so that you react instinctively without having to think".

Source: Will MMA Help You in a Street Fight?

[blackmoon]

Grappling is important for martial artists to learn, however many seem to disagree.

Many people like to use the "multiple oppenents" scenario to argue against grappling. Whilst it is true that it is a very bad idea to go to ground if you are fighting multiple opponents, it is not the ONLY scenario.

What if you are only fighting one opponent? Surely then, grappling isn't a bad idea. Now, maybe you don't need it. I'm sure your stand-up is pretty good. Maybe you don't need the ground part of your game. But I know I'd much rather fight a boxer on the ground than standing up. Now, sure, in a one-on-one fight, against my theoretical boxer, an even BETTER place to be would be with him on his back and you jumping on his head, but to do this effectively you'll at least need some good takedowns.

What if the fight goes to gorund? Hey, maybe your takedown defense is fantastic. But, if I was in a fight, and it went to ground, I'd want to know some grappling. Even if it was just so I could get him on his back, and stand up again, before one of his friends really decides to finish me off.

What if you don't want to knock your opponent out? Maybe he has had a few too many drinks, and you don't want to hurt him. Maybe your friend is getting aggressive with the hospital nurse, because he is worried about his injured son. Surely, restraining your opponent would be a good idea, and grappling is the best way to restrain an opponent.

Now, at the end of the day, I place more value in my Muay Thai than my BJJ. I think the stand-up component is terribly important. However, I like MMA because it also forces me to have good takedown defense, so I don't go to ground, it teaches me to combine my striking and takedowns, because I'd much rather have my opponent on the ground whilst I kick him in the ribs before running off, it teaches me grappling, in case I DO end up on the ground, and it gives me a great way to restrain an opponent (or friend) who I don't want to seriously hurt.


By the way

However in a street fight are you going to be able to win by tapping someone out?

Most submissions are designed to break limbs or choke your opponent. Keep going with an armbar or an americana, and you will breaktheir elbow or their shoulder. And keep going with the choke, and the fight will soon be over. Alternatively, you could use grappling to get in a top position and start throwing elbows, fists, maybe an eye gouge, and they'll start bleeding and hurting VERY quickly.

KOing someone can be very difficult.

[black knife]

Grappling is important for martial artists to learn, however many seem to disagree.

Many people like to use the "multiple oppenents" scenario to argue against grappling. Whilst it is true that it is a very bad idea to go to ground if you are fighting multiple opponents, it is not the ONLY scenario.

What if you are only fighting one opponent? Surely then, grappling isn't a bad idea. Now, maybe you don't need it. I'm sure your stand-up is pretty good. Maybe you don't need the ground part of your game. But I know I'd much rather fight a boxer on the ground than standing up. Now, sure, in a one-on-one fight, against my theoretical boxer, an even BETTER place to be would be with him on his back and you jumping on his head, but to do this effectively you'll at least need some good takedowns.

What if the fight goes to gorund? Hey, maybe your takedown defense is fantastic. But, if I was in a fight, and it went to ground, I'd want to know some grappling. Even if it was just so I could get him on his back, and stand up again, before one of his friends really decides to finish me off.

What if you don't want to knock your opponent out? Maybe he has had a few too many drinks, and you don't want to hurt him. Maybe your friend is getting aggressive with the hospital nurse, because he is worried about his injured son. Surely, restraining your opponent would be a good idea, and grappling is the best way to restrain an opponent.

Now, at the end of the day, I place more value in my Muay Thai than my BJJ. I think the stand-up component is terribly important. However, I like MMA because it also forces me to have good takedown defense, so I don't go to ground, it teaches me to combine my striking and takedowns, because I'd much rather have my opponent on the ground whilst I kick him in the ribs before running off, it teaches me grappling, in case I DO end up on the ground, and it gives me a great way to restrain an opponent (or friend) who I don't want to seriously hurt.


By the way
Most submissions are designed to break limbs or choke your opponent. Keep going with an armbar or an americana, and you will breaktheir elbow or their shoulder. And keep going with the choke, and the fight will soon be over. Alternatively, you could use grappling to get in a top position and start throwing elbows, fists, maybe an eye gouge, and they'll start bleeding and hurting VERY quickly.

KOing someone can be very difficult.

I agree...the people that don't train in grappling always have to say that its ineffective for multiple opponets. Well I think most Martial Arts are probably not effective for multiple opponents. Then they bring up Krav Maga...the ultimate fighting style in their minds. Well I have seen some Krav Maga guys in action and I was not impressed.

I started in martial arts with Boxing then got into an American style of Kickboxing. Then I found Muay Thai...thanks to Kru Rex. I have always considered Muay Thai the ultimate fighting style....that was until I got into the Marine Corps. Marines when bored like to wrestle against each other....well my ground skills were horrible....I could never get the Marines that had a wrestling background off of me when we grappled. I always told myself that, "Well if this was a real fight I would just kick the crap out of them'" but deep inside I knew that if I fought someone with good wrestling skills I would get killed.

Then I saw the first UFC and that did it for me....I knew I had to train in Grappling. So I started training in Shoot Wrestling. Its a combination of grappling and Muay Thai. I liked it but the instructor I was training with had to move. So I found a BJJ school and joined immediately.

Well I have been doing BJJ for almost 15 years now I have to say I love it. It has saved me from being injured in real street fights. I even I had to use it frequently while on Patrol as a deputy sheriff.

Groundfighting/Grappling is useful in street fights. I don't care what others think because most of these same people have never been in a real fight in their lives so they don't have a clue on what they are talking about.

Just the last week a student of mine, who has been training with me for about six months, recieved a call from his father that two guys were trying to pick a fight with him. So my student drove to the location. When he arrived he saw one of the guys grabbing his father. He exited his car and ran up to the guy and grabbed him from behind. The guy turned around and they both fell to the ground. My student placed the guy in his guard and struck the guy behind the head with a cuople of elbows. The he placed the guy in a armbar and broke the guys arm. The guy screamed loud so he let the guy go. The bad guy's friend saw what happend and did not want any so he just stood there. My student got his father and they both left the location.

I have many more stories but I don't have all day to write. I know for sure that BJJ and other groundfighting styles would work in street fights....there is no one that can convince me other wise.

As far for mutliple opponents, I will just use my knife and my Kali skills.

[grace12]

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