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    Out of all the different areas of kali which is your fav.

    We use the following areas.
    1.Single Stick
    2.Double Stick
    3.Stick and dagger
    4. Double dagger
    5.Single Dagger
    6.Palm Stick
    7.empty Hands
    8.Long Weapons
    9. Flexable
    10.throwing
    11.projectile
    12. healing,Etc.Hilot

    where I train we only use 1,2,3,5,6,7,. I had some of the rest by myself.

    My Fav. I like all the areas. I really like the single stick.

    what about you guys..which do you perfer?

  • #2
    healing? Hilot? I grew up in the PI..havnt heard that this is part of KALI? It's local medicine...not Kali....I guess this si like Kinumutai..he,he..makes me laugh..anyways..I like Espada y daga

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    • #3
      I like it all...It's fun as can be.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by lionleo
        healing? Hilot? I grew up in the PI..havnt heard that this is part of KALI? It's local medicine...not Kali....I guess this si like Kinumutai..he,he..makes me laugh..anyways..I like Espada y daga
        These are the 12 areas that Guro Dan includes in his FMA training - if memory serves, he got these areas from John Lacoste and Lacoste (along with some of Guro Dan's other instructors) considered healing to be an integral part of martial arts. Hopefully my memory of that history is accurate but that is the reason that Guro Dan includes Hilot in that list of "areas of Kali" ... because many of his FMA instructors considered it an important aspect of training - both from a moral stand and from the idea that understanding the body in general both for healing and harm was beneficial to martial arts training.

        Mike

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        • #5
          Originally posted by SuperToe
          Out of all the different areas of kali which is your fav.

          We use the following areas.
          1.Single Stick
          2.Double Stick
          3.Stick and dagger
          4. Double dagger
          5.Single Dagger
          6.Palm Stick
          7.empty Hands
          8.Long Weapons
          9. Flexable
          10.throwing
          11.projectile
          12. healing,Etc.Hilot

          where I train we only use 1,2,3,5,6,7,. I had some of the rest by myself.

          My Fav. I like all the areas. I really like the single stick.

          what about you guys..which do you perfer?

          I've had some training in all of these but in Sikal, we primarily focus on 1,2,3,4,5,7 and 9 (except that our flexible weapons come primarily from the Silat side of the equation and some of our other aspects come from Silat, too). We do some throwing and long weapons but don't put a lot of emphasis on them in our standard curriculum.

          Mike

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          • #6
            kali

            Yeah.. Inosanto kali is a very good art. TONS and tons of good drills.. The blend system is vey complete.. Any thing you can think of is there somewhere!

            I want to learn more, double dagger, staff, sarong, I know drills and tech's from all areas but I want to become more well rounded. and learn all of the 12th area,.

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            • #7
              Kali

              The Double Dagger section to me is very weird, But thats where the empty hands is from. I cant belive there used to be people who fought with two knifes..Deadly.

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              • #8
                Single stick and single dagger.

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                • #9
                  Hilot is the art of pressure manipulating muscles and joints to heal. Guro Sam Tendencia was the major player here in this area of expertise . He was an advisor to Guro Dan Inosanto and the LA police department. Sadly, Guro Sam has alzhiemers and his health is fading. If you care to reach him his nephew is watching/caring for him here tendenciachris@yahoo.com if I could find a way to post a picture I would. He is a great guy and did wonders with my recouperation from a shattered wrist. I spent several weeks with him and saw a very fast arnis player and a man with a warm heart.


                  a pic of him is here---http://www.fightingarts.com/learning/maworld/philippines/warriorsart3.shtml
                  Guro Buzz Smith

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                  • #10
                    The complete area's/level's from the Inosanto Kali / LaCoste blend:

                    * 12th Level: Spiritual training
                    o Healing Arts
                    o Health Skills
                    o Rhythm and Dance
                    o History
                    o Philosophy and Ethics

                    * 11th Level: Projectile Weapondry
                    o Bow and Arrow (Pana)
                    o Blowgun (Sumpit)
                    o Slingshot (Pana Palad)
                    o Portable Cannon, Firearms (Lantanka)

                    * 10th Level: Projectile Weapondry(Hand-thrown)
                    o Spears
                    o Dagger
                    o Wooden Splinter
                    o Spikes
                    o Coins
                    o Stones
                    o Dirt
                    o Pepper, Powder

                    * 9th Level: Flexible Weapondry

                    o Sarong (clothing worn in Southern Phillipines and Indonesia)
                    o Belt or Sash
                    o Whip (Latigo)
                    o Rope (Lubid)
                    o Chain (Cadena)
                    o Scarf, Headband, Handkerchief (Trapo)
                    o Flail (nunchucka) Olisi Toyok
                    o Yo-yo
                    o Stingray Tail

                    * 8th Level: Polearms and Staffs
                    o Staff (Sibat)
                    o Oar (Dula)
                    o Paddle (Bugsay)
                    o Spear (Bangkaw)
                    o Spear and Circular Shield
                    o Spear and Rectangular Shield
                    o Spear and Sword/Stick
                    o Spear and Dagger
                    o Two Handed Method (Heavy stick, Olisi Dalawang kamot)
                    o Two Handed Method (Regular stick)

                    * 7th Level: Empty Hands (Pangamut, Kamot-kamot)
                    o Panatukan (Boxing to include use of the Elbows)
                    o Panadiakan or Sikaran (Kicking to include use of Knees and Shin)\
                    o Dumog, Layug, or Buno (Grappling and Locking)
                    o Ankab-Pagkusi (Bite and Pinch)
                    o Higot-Hubud-Lubud (Tying-untying, and blending the two, which is a close range trapping and sensitivity exercise)

                    * 6th Level: Close-range Weapondry (Category 3)

                    o Palm Stick (Olisi-Palad)
                    o Double end Dagger

                    * 5th Level: Close-range Weapondry (Category 2)
                    o Single Dagger (Baraw-Kamot)
                    o Single Short Stick

                    * 4th Level: Close-range Weapondry (Category 1)>
                    o Double Dagger (Baraw-Kamot)
                    o Double Short Stick

                    * 3th Level: Long & Short Weapondry

                    o Stick and Dagger (Olisi-Baraw)\
                    o Cane and Dagger
                    o Sword and Dagger
                    o Sword and Shield
                    o Long and Short Stick

                    * 2nd Level: Siniwali (weaving)
                    o Double Stick (Double Olisi)
                    o Double Sword
                    o Double Axe

                    * 1st Level: Single-handed Weapondry

                    o Single Stick
                    o Single Sword
                    o Single Axe
                    o Single Cane

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                    • #11
                      Hi,

                      i train in the areas 1-8.
                      In the last time i spend more time in the sibat training, because it improves my bodymechanics (the power of my strikes) a lot.

                      Ginunting

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                      • #12
                        Espada y daga

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SuperToe
                          Out of all the different areas of kali which is your fav.
                          I'd love to learn all equally

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                          • #14
                            Interesting look at all the levels of training MAMike. Have to say I have done a fair bit of training through levels 1-8 (as you have described them). But really haven't had much to do with levels 9,10,11,12. Well not formally through the filipino martial arts.
                            However I think the sinawali's give you your base allowing you to excersize both sides of your body combining your hand and arm movements with your feet. After that we do a lot of flow work which then allows us to experiment with a lot of the things you have mentioned in the various levels.
                            As to what I like the most well personally its a mixture of mano-mano and Classical Solo Baston maybe through in a bit of Espada Y Daga as well. I suppose the best thing about Kombatan Arnis (which is what I do) is that it covers the majority of the filipino systems extensively hence I get to experiment with the majority of the stuff you have listed.

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